Russian attack aircraft just flew within 30 feet of a U.S. Navy ship

[Ulmita]

Russian attack aircraft just flew within 30 feet of a U.S. Navy ship

http://www.defensenews.com/story/mil...-sea/82979184/

Editor's note: This story was originally published April 13, 2016, at 11:23 a.m. EST.

In one of the most aggressive actions in recent memory, Russian warplanes conducted “simulated attacks” on the a U.S. Navy vessel in the Baltic Sea on Tuesday, repeatedly flying within 30 feet of the ship, according to a defense official.
Sailors aboard the destroyer Donald Cook said the aircraft flew low enough to create wake in the sea waters surrounding the ship, and the ship’s commanding officer said the incident was “unsafe and unprofessional,” the defense official said.



“This was more aggressive than anything we’ve seen in some time,” according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because U.S. officials have not officially disclosed the incidents.
Sailors aboard the ship described the Sukhoi Russian Su-24 as “wings clean,” meaning there were no visible bombs or armaments on the aircraft, the defense official said.


The nature of the overflight as a “simulated attack” may violate a 1973 treaty between the U.S. and Russia that specifically prohibits this type of maneuver, the defense official said.

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The maneuver was one of several aggressive moves by Russian aircraft on Monday and Tuesday.
Shortly after leaving the Polish port of Gdynia, near Gdansk, on Monday, the Donald Cook at was sea in international waters conducting flight operations with a Polish helicopter, part of routine joint training exercises with the NATO ally.


During those flight operations, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 combat aircraft appeared and conducted about 20 overflights, coming within 1,000 yards of the ship at an altitude of about 100 feet, the defense official said. In response, the commander of the Donald Cook suspended flight operations.

On Tuesday, the Donald Cook was underway in the Baltic Sea when a Russian helicopter — a Ka-27 Helix — made seven overflights and appeared to be taking photographs of the U.S. Navy ship, the defense official said.


Shortly after the helicopter left the area, an Su-24 began making “very low” overflights with a “simulated attack profile,” the defense official said. The aircraft made a total of 11 passes.



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The ship's commander repeatedly tried to make radio contact with the Russian aircraft but received no response, the defense official said.
After a formal investigation, the incident may prompt the U.S. government to formally lodge a complaint — or "demarche” — with Moscow, the defense official said.
While Russian aircraft during the past couple of years have conducted numerous aggressive overflights that Navy officials deemed “unprofessional," the incident on Tuesday was the first to be deemed “unsafe,” the defense official said.
In 1973, the United States and the Soviet Union signed a treaty aimed at preventing incidents at sea. That treaty specifically prohibits “ simulating attacks,” according to the U.S. State Department’s website.
The aircraft likely came from a Russian military installations in Kalingrad, an enclave of Russian territory on the Baltic Coast nestled between Poland and Lithuania.

Is this a new incident lol? If yeah those sailors should definitely get a raise for psychological trauma..

[GennGreymane]

Pretty ballsy

[Deleted]

Is this a new incident lol? If yeah those sailors should definitely get a raise for psychological trauma..

Yeah...so traumatized. That pilot is lucky as shit he didn't get shot down.

[Belize]

Should have shot it down.

Then sent Putin a not saying "lol jk".

[Independent voter]

The pilot mistook it for a Russian aircraft carrier and was trying to land.

[Ulmita]

Yeah...so traumatized. That pilot is lucky as shit he didn't get shot down.

Thats the second time Donald Cook gets owned like that, first being in the black sea with the exact same way.

[Crispin]

Should have shot it down imo.

[Azadina]

He just got lost while "on holiday"

[Reeve]

I'm surprised it didn't get shot down.

[Ulmita]

I'm surprised it didn't get shot down.

It is said that Cook (with the famous aegis system) can't see it =) but thats another story.

[Alcomo]

The pilot mistook it for a Russian aircraft carrier and was trying to land.

Whether or not you're joking, the worst part is your post is the only logical one here. Its scary how nearly every other one says "shoot it down". Its idiots like them are the reason we have wars in the first place. Its very obviously a mistake by the pilot yet all the MMOchamp warmongers came in a swarm. Glad that your military is obviously much smarter than many of your civilians down there in the USA lol.

[I Push Buttons]

I'm surprised it didn't get shot down.

They reported it was unarmed.

Being reckless isn't justification for lethal force, short of the Russian planes flying on literal collision courses.

[Skroe]

Russian attack aircraft just flew within 30 feet of a U.S. Navy ship

http://www.defensenews.com/story/mil...-sea/82979184/





Is this a new incident lol? If yeah those sailors should definitely get a raise for psychological trauma..

It's new. But the fact is, it's Russia (and China) that do these unsafe things, and invariably someone gets hurt.

Say for example, when a Russian Su-24 got shot down over Turkey by an F-16?



Or when China got up in close against a US Spyplane in 2001 and it's pilot smashed into it's nose?



It's all fun and games until somebody dies.

Western militaries are more professional than Russian and Chinese ones. They don't engage in these pointless stunts.

And besides if there had been a real threat, the Destroyer would have shot both aircraft out of the sky before they got remotely in range.

[I Push Buttons]

Whether or not you're joking, the worst part is your post is the only logical one here. Its scary how nearly every other one says "shoot it down". Its idiots like them are the reason we have wars in the first place. Its very obviously a mistake by the pilot yet all the MMOchamp warmongers came in a swarm. Glad that your military is obviously much smarter than many of your civilians down there in the USA lol.

Lol its not a mistake... They are intentionally doing this, its why they fly them unarmed... So any attack on them will be a provocation on our part.

[Reeve]

It is said that Cook (with the famous aegis system) can't see it =) but thats another story.

Surely they would have seen it by the 11th fly-by.

[Santti]

Whether or not you're joking, the worst part is your post is the only logical one here. Its scary how nearly every other one says "shoot it down". Its idiots like them are the reason we have wars in the first place. Its very obviously a mistake by the pilot yet all the MMOchamp warmongers came in a swarm. Glad that your military is obviously much smarter than many of your civilians down there in the USA lol.

Did you even read the article?

Surely they would have seen it by the 11th fly-by.

Don't they also use radios or something? Surely they don't just yolo and assume it's clear and try landing when they see fit.

[PhillieB]

There has been a number of incidents over the past year involving russian aircrafts in the baltic sea with both Swedish and Finnish airforce, not responding to radio, seven overpasses....not an accident

[Slant]

I also would praise the US sailors on their professionalism. Locate target, identify that it's unarmed, dismiss it as not dangerous and don't cause a pointless excuse for Russia to whine like a baby about another jet destroyed by NATO. This was a 1a job of the US navy. That's how you don't escalate situations into something you cannot back out of. A lesson Putin apparently has yet to learn.

Pity the Russians got some intelligence on the deck structures, but I doubt it'll be of much use to them. It's not like the internet isn't filled with photos from US navy vessels.

[Reeve]

Whether or not you're joking, the worst part is your post is the only logical one here. Its scary how nearly every other one says "shoot it down". Its idiots like them are the reason we have wars in the first place. Its very obviously a mistake by the pilot yet all the MMOchamp warmongers came in a swarm. Glad that your military is obviously much smarter than many of your civilians down there in the USA lol.

It's not "warmongering" to defend your vessel from destruction. A US navy vessel was sunk not that many years ago by some folks in a dinghy. Aiming an attack fighter at a vessel and passing within 30 feet is a threatening posture, and would justify a defensive strike. Certainly if it'd been a carrier instead of a destroyer, that jet would be gone.

If a US warplane were to do the same thing to a Russian navy vessel, I'd suggest they'd be justified in using deadly force to defend their boat too.

[Alcomo]

Did you even read the article?.

Sure did. Did you not see that its from an obviously biased American publication? Did you even read what you quoted? The point was how quick these morons came in here and screamed "shoot it down". Even if it was an intentional flyover of an unarmed aircraft, so what. Americans are always so quick to shoot and its really sickening. No wonder this world is so screwed up when we have people like most in this thread.

Infracted for flaming