Remove the group finder tool

[Shinv]

No. Be more social if you want social. Not hard. Don't use the game as an excuse to be social.

If that was a viable solution in the system we wouldn't have mythic raiding and many guilds falling apart at the scenes while raids were being released. Going be more social to fix things as everyone else hangs in their isolated garrison bubble pressing a q button is an uphill battle. Socializing shouldn't be an uphill battle in an mmo. Telling people don't use whats efficient isn't a real solution game or not.

The social engineering in this game is garbage from its features creating more reasons to avoid each other. Yet the game relies on there being people to fill the q's. Seriously if the social engineering isn't aggressively looked and pursued blizz will let bots fix the q times as this game hits a million subs. They just need to let communities that can recognize themselves grow. Everything will solve itself from there.

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If that was a viable solution in the system we wouldn't have mythic raiding and many guilds falling apart at the scenes while raids were being released. Going be more social to fix things as everyone else hangs in their isolated garrison bubble pressing a q button is an uphill battle. Socializing shouldn't be an uphill battle in an mmo. Telling people don't use whats efficient isn't a real solution game or not.

The social engineering in this game is garbage from its features creating more reasons to avoid each other. Yet the game relies on there being people to fill the q's. Seriously if the social engineering isn't aggressively looked and pursued blizz will let bots fix the q times as this game hits a million subs. They just need to let communities that can recognize themselves grow. Everything will solve itself from there.

Again the same argument. You want more social interactivity from people who don't want it so your solution is to force them to do it.

Has it not occurred to you that the reason people hang in their garrisons is because that is where they want to be? And what exactly is the difference between hanging around in SW/Org or hanging around in your Garrison? Besides less to do in Cities whilst hanging that is?

[Shinv]

Again the same argument. You want more social interactivity from people who don't want it so your solution is to force them to do it.

Has it not occurred to you that the reason people hang in their garrisons is because that is where they want to be? And what exactly is the difference between hanging around in SW/Org or hanging around in your Garrison? Besides less to do in Cities whilst hanging that is?

There's a lot differences between hanging out in a city vs a garrisons when it makes sense just terms of professions once being a real thing. I could name a few other open rpg things that relate to real community not a bunch of faceless people who may as well be bots. But if you are actually happy playing facebook games counting your follower gold all by yourself pressing a button. I know I'm talking to an incredibly openly negative who should only need to see the content eventually when current to be happy. Your statement goes both ways easy, has it not occurred to you that the reason people left is because hanging in their garrisons is and not playing with other players is a boring waiting game for millions?

I'm not even for this specific poll the op is too vague. But really whats so bad if your limited to a q pool of people in your server through an LFG. Afraid of a little faceless social anxiety? Also when you throw a bunch of rewards around said feature and people bite doesn't mean the feature is necessarily a success. They lost half there player base arguing to remain an awkward social turtle with people seems like pretty cowardly logic.

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There's a lot differences between hanging out in a city vs a garrisons when it makes sense just terms of professions once being a real thing.

Like? It's the same thing except everyone else can see you hanging off that lamp post or hovering in the air on your new mount.

I could name a few other open rpg things that relate to real community not a bunch of faceless people who may as well be bots.

Go on........

But if you are actually happy playing facebook games counting your follower gold all by yourself pressing a button.

Slightly happier than sitting in a city not being able to play Facebook games and count my follower gold.

I know I'm talking to an incredibly openly negative who should only need to see the content eventually when current to be happy.

Insulting your conversational opponent is the sign of a flimsy argument. Please, you're not going to achieve anything here so drop it.

Your statement goes both ways easy, has it not occurred to you that the reason people left is because hanging in their garrisons is and not playing with other players is a boring waiting game for millions?

That's a greater discussion than the points raised but touches on another complaint about the game, an actual valid one at that; content. I do not believe that people left the game because of the decision to hang out in the garrison vs hanging out in the City. The lack of content hurts both parties and isn't the "fault" of the people who hang out in their garrisons.

[generalben12]

Worst idea NA

[markos82]

Guess again.

No need, i know im right...

[Joozt]

So you answer for those that are now on Low pop servers is of course to move. I'm in a raiding guild, but things have it so that we're not always in sync, so when I want to run dungeons I need to pug with local server players, if no pugs are available for me at 9am, then tough luck right?

As usual, all you guys want is to take things away because you have made up in your minds that it's a great idea. Times have changed, keep up or move on. If you are in such dire need of making friends and having a social hour when you play video games, maybe AOL chat rooms is where you really want to be.

As i said just merge servers make all of them medium/high pop and if there are name conflicts people will just have to pick an other name

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No, you're idea is just bad. If you don't like the LFG then don't use it but don't ruin the game for others that want that choice.

There is no choice because the tool is there and why would it ruin the game ? it is an MMO I think interacting with people is the most important part of the MMO ..

[Deleted]

I think interacting with people is the most important part of the MMO ..

And others disagree.

At the moment if you want to be social you have the option to be social with others who share your view. Why do you want to drag those who don't share your view kicking and screaming into your world? I have a feeling that the answer is you don't have enough people who share your view so you want more hence forcing them to interact with you.

Also, throughout this and every similar discussion previously, how many of the anti-social group have insisted the game be changed to remove your ability to socialise? Seems a very one sided argument somewhat.

As i said just merge servers make all of them medium/high pop and if there are name conflicts people will just have to pick an other name

:O I assume you are someone who doesn't really care all that much about the name you chose. People have stopped playing games for less.

[Pieterman]

Removing bad ideas causes even more forum rage than implementing them(cough reforging cough).

I'd love to see it removed or at least not give it 15% bonus output, bonus loot, bonus gold and a free teleport. And preferably not have 5 mans be balanced around 5 uncooperative uncommunicative noobs.

[Fuck]

Fuck group finder.

Fuck server merges.

Fuck battle tag/real id/ any communication with other faction or server.

Fuck all who voted no.

[Jtbrig7390]

Fuck group finder.

Fuck server merges.

Fuck battle tag/real id/ any communication with other faction or server.

Fuck all who voted no.

Fuck everything right?

Do you say fuck to concent as well.....

[Fuck]

Fuck everything right?

Do you say fuck to concent as well.....

What did you just say to me you Moon Guard fuck?

[dudurududu]

Lets report this mongoloid, it's not even funny

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[Aggrophobic]

As i said just merge servers make all of them medium/high pop and if there are name conflicts people will just have to pick an other name

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There is no choice because the tool is there and why would it ruin the game ? it is an MMO I think interacting with people is the most important part of the MMO ..

Of course there is choice. You're just taking the convenience option.
You don't "interact" more just becase you have to use the chat to find people. It'll take more time, way more time and a lot less people will be intrested in doing dungeons when getting a group for it takes hours but you won't start talking to them just becasue of it. Thats just silly.

If you don't like the system, get a guuld and run dungeons with them.

[TheDeeGee]

Thread can be closed as we have a clear winner.

[Joozt]

And others disagree.

At the moment if you want to be social you have the option to be social with others who share your view. Why do you want to drag those who don't share your view kicking and screaming into your world? I have a feeling that the answer is you don't have enough people who share your view so you want more hence forcing them to interact with you.

Also, throughout this and every similar discussion previously, how many of the anti-social group have insisted the game be changed to remove your ability to socialise? Seems a very one sided argument somewhat.



:O I assume you are someone who doesn't really care all that much about the name you chose. People have stopped playing games for less.

The stupid xreal assist addon people are using to join random groups just to see if their mob is up on an other realm.
Also if you dont want to interact with other people go play a single player game instead why play an MMO?

What would also fix the problem is keep the group finder tool but remove cross realm joining

[dudurududu]

The stupid xreal assist addon people are using to join random groups just to see if their mob is up on an other realm.
Also if you dont want to interact with other people go play a single player game instead why play an MMO?

What would also fix the problem is keep the group finder tool but remove cross realm joining

Or just don't allow auto join and noone will hop to your group

[Joozt]

You underestimate how long it could actually take to form a good group. Back in BC my realm was a high pop realm & it still took me 1 1/2 - 2 hours on average to get everyone for BC heroics. Granted part of this was due to the gated nature of heroics requiring keys from reps so it would be a bit lower today, but now my realm is on the lower end of medium if that. I have a lot less time to play WoW with school & work, I am not going to willingly sacrifice that much more of my spare time on the mechanical aspects of the game due to removing LFG.

Well this can easily be fixed by merging more servers together

[PaladinBash]

I would tank dungeons just purely to be a huge wanker to everyone if this was the case. Wouldn't need gear or artifact power or magic bags or whatever. I'd just do it for the sheer enjoyment of kicking everyone I didn't like for anything, knowing full well they'd be stuck waiting 30+ minutes (after waiting 30+ minutes) to get another tank. God I miss that shit.

[Joozt]

Or just don't allow auto join and noone will hop to your group

Still what is the point of servers when you can cross realm?

Why aren't we just on 1 big realm than with different phases to prevent lag.

I get the idea behind cross realm before blizzard started merging realms what is the current point of it?