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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Gonna be the lowest voter turnout in history that's for sure.
    Actually, that won't be true at all.

    Both Clinton and Trump have people devoted to stopping them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanknasty View Post
    Awesome I get to do it now too! This is a poll from CNN....so this poll is completely inaccurate and has a clear left wing bias.

    Did I do it right?
    No.... Because FOX too has Clinton ahead.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontinuum View Post
    CNN/ORC poll
    Clinton 54% / Trump 41%
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/im...16.general.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excellion View Post
    Well 2% is really close, especially with 5% undecided...I worry for our country when these are our options...but right now I'd rather almost anyone than Clinton.
    Clinton is by far the worst choice for the future... im glad Americans are waking up to that fact

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    well if it was decided purely on Facebook likes, then Trumps 7.3 million likes would destroy Clintons 3.3 million likes lol. It would take Sanders 4 million likes just to tie haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    No.... Because FOX too has Clinton ahead.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html
    Yeah. According to the polls, she was ahead in Indiana and Michigan over Bernie. They are always right. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom4u2 View Post
    Yes, a perception is by definition a bias. I'm not saying the contrary. I'm not saying I support his ideology either, which is the issue I have with this thread. It seems like you can't say you think someone is brilliant without being told that you agree with him. I do not.



    I don't support those claims, but that doesn't make him Hitler. We're at war, after all and I'll be damned if he's the only person who wished to kill his enemies. Yes, its extreme, but he's just saying what others don't. You think that the Obama administration never had soldiers kill innocent people? It's probably happening right now. That's why it's disgusting; it's war. That doesn't make you Hitler, where you want to kill someone because you feel they are too greedy.

    Now before I get an overreaction, I hate war and anything related to it and I certainly do not condone killing innocents.



    Nope, that came when he decided to use a group of thugs to act as defender of the city.
    But how is he actually brilliant, other than being able to get ignorant and gullible people to follow him? His success as a business man is sketchy, considering what he started with from an inheritance. He's made a career of screwing other people out of money.

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    If you want america to be something that resembles america again vote trump.

    If you want america to become something resembling a pc driven socialist state resembling the old ussr vote clinton

    Simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Gonna be the lowest voter turnout in history that's for sure.
    Naw, I think a lot of people will turn out to vote against Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sethman75 View Post
    If you want america to be something that resembles america again vote trump.
    If your vision of America is what Trump is selling... for the rest of us, we would prefer to move past the racism, xenophobia and hatred of the past into something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanknasty View Post
    Awesome I get to do it now too! This is a poll from CNN....so this poll is completely inaccurate and has a clear left wing bias.

    Did I do it right?
    No, Rasmussen has a clear history of bias/inaccuracy in it's polling method. CNN doesn't.

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    CNN/ORC is rated A- on 538 (Rasmussen has C)
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/interacti...lster-ratings/

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    The Onion once against called it years ago.

    http://www.theonion.com/video/after-...here-of--30284

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    I've decided what I want the first Clinton-Trump debate topic to be: taxes.

    Clinton is the only candidate in 2016 to put her completed tax returns for 2015, and for the previous 7 years for that matter, out for the general public to see. No other candidate has done this for this election.

    Trump is the only candidate in this election to release no tax forms at all. His most recent excuse was that it was because his lawyers would not let him do so because he's being audited, something the IRS immediately said was bullshit, and Nixon did himself while being audited in 1973. That's right: Trump's failure to release his tax returns is literally shadier than Nixon during Watergate. But he has not made his tax records public for the last 8 years in any form at all, even the 1040 form (which Sanders, Rubio, Cruz and Kasich have all done).

    For someone who will almost certainly try to imply that Clinton is corrupt, Trump is giving her an easy way out. This can, and surely will, immediately be thrown back in his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    No.... Because FOX too has Clinton ahead.
    Yeah, but FOX also doesn't like Trump. You'd need to find a source that actually likes Trump to be fair.

    Wait...hold on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I've decided what I want the first Clinton-Trump debate topic to be: taxes.

    Clinton is the only candidate in 2016 to put her completed tax returns for 2015, and for the previous 7 years for that matter, out for the general public to see. No other candidate has done this for this election.

    Trump is the only candidate in this election to release no tax forms at all. His most recent excuse was that it was because his lawyers would not let him do so because he's being audited, something the IRS immediately said was bullshit, and Nixon did himself while being audited in 1973. That's right: Trump's failure to release his tax returns is literally shadier than Nixon during Watergate. But he has not made his tax records public for the last 8 years in any form at all, even the 1040 form (which Sanders, Rubio, Cruz and Kasich have all done).

    For someone who will almost certainly try to imply that Clinton is corrupt, Trump is giving her an easy way out. This can, and surely will, immediately be thrown back in his face.

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    Yeah, but FOX also doesn't like Trump. You'd need to find a source that actually likes Trump to be fair.

    Wait...hold on...
    For a guy who has zero prior experience with politics, and who everybody thinks has no grasp on foreign policy, you want to start off with a question about his personal tax returns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stommped View Post
    For a guy who has zero prior experience with politics, and who everybody thinks has no grasp on foreign policy, you want to start off with a question about his personal tax returns?
    Hey, something's gotta be first. This is a softball issue for Clinton to score easy points unless Trump does something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Hey, something's gotta be first. This is a softball issue for Clinton to score easy points unless Trump does something about it.
    Ha, there is the bias.

    "I want the first issue to be taxes so Clinton can score presumably easy points."

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    CNN poll Hillary 54, Trump 41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Clinton is by far the worst choice for the future... im glad Americans are waking up to that fact
    She'll still be the president, and it will be fine, and it certainly will be better than Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    But how is he actually brilliant, other than being able to get ignorant and gullible people to follow him? His success as a business man is sketchy, considering what he started with from an inheritance. He's made a career of screwing other people out of money.
    But here you assume that to be brilliant, you have to be ethically correct.

    You can be incredibly brilliant and be a massive arse, go behind the system and work things to play your way. So, while he's made a career of screwing other people out of money, it allowed him to move forward. He's brilliant - it's those that decided to follow him that are not.

    Once again, please stop attributing ethical dilemmas with how intelligent or brilliant someone can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stommped View Post
    For a guy who has zero prior experience with politics, and who everybody thinks has no grasp on foreign policy, you want to start off with a question about his personal tax returns?
    Might as well hit him where it hurts first before he can start spewing more hyperbole and deflective nonsense.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    Might as well hit him where it hurts first before he can start spewing more hyperbole and deflective nonsense.
    I'd rather them debate topics that actually matter.

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