[Movie] Warcraft (June 2016)

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Spear does not easily penetrate plate armor. Not when trust by hand anyway. And wood compared to that is surprisingly resilient as well, maybe not to the same extent if it's only a wooden belt buckle though.

He easily manages to penetrate a breastplate, the most sturdy part bar helmet a knight would wear. Yes, he does not go deeper than one inch, yet it already shows why the thing Garona does is completely feasible. She uses a spear that is probably of far better quality than anything we have seen (Dwarves are one hell of blacksmiths, not to mention numerous exotic materials found in Azeroth), and the orc has a very simplistic wooden buckle.

[Ghâzh]

Stopping swinging swords and the like. Plate was typically designed with a radius to help deflect blows. It wasn't impenetrable in the slightest.

That's doesn't make sense. Mail already deflects cutting attacks. You can even see it in the history of weapon development after mail (and later plate) started to become the prevalent armor the usage of arming swords as a primary weapon dropped and they made way to the more specialized armor piercing designs like spears, halberds and pole-axes.

Pretty much the only way you're going to get trough plate armor is either by lance from horseback, eye slits of the helm (or open visor) or trough the gaps that are protected by only mail and arming doublet (or gambeson). There's no way you're doing any lethal damage trough a piece of properly made plate armor by mere thrust of your spear.

The plate itself (the material) was as far as we're concerned impenetrable. The design as a whole (gaps and helmet) wasn't. The plate armor of the later periods was actually so good that the number of captive knights skyrocketed because it was just so hard to kill them (there are recorded accounts of this, see the Battle of Agincourt).


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Both of the linked videos are proving my point. That is no lethal damage. An inch of penetration wouldn't even scratch you.

[tangocash]

The orc isn't wearing plate. Furthermore, this is Garona stabbing the orc with a spear. Garona is going to be stronger than the average human.

[Ghâzh]

It's an inch of penetration from a guy who isn't an expert with the weapon or all that well built... And that's plate. On leather it goes through much more easily. Between some little wooden slats? Shouldn't be a huge issue either. And it's a fantasy movie where their weapons don't even have scabbards... I think we can throw all normal physics out the window for how they're going to treat things. Which could be a good or bad thing depending on how the general public responds to it.

An Inch of penetration on a stationary target. And under that breastplate you're going to have mail shirt and arming doublet.

I'm not really criticizing this movie for it, like you said it's a fantasy setting. It's more about the premise of hollywood's general take on armor in general.

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So Khadgar's video probably tomorrow?

[Zoaric]

Can't listen to sound atm, but I like this better than most of the other trailers I've seen.

[Deleted]

Outside China there's only USA in the world lol

http://massivelyop.com/2016/05/05/ch...one-else/?Dmxy

[Ghâzh]

Their general take on armor in fantasy movies? Because you can't use this as an example of a historical drama.

I'm talking about the fact that 99% of the times the armor has no use in historical or fantasy movies. It's only there for the decorative value. If it's a bad guy or someone not that important any weapon cuts trough the armor like it's butter. If it's a good guy or someone important they just don't get hit (or do but not in a lethal spot). I don't see why a fantasy movie couldn't remedy itself by having even somewhat realistic physics. The fantasy genre is not a free pass to ignore everything we know about armor or weapons.

Can't listen to sound atm, but I like this better than most of the other trailers I've seen.

QQ. China the only country to get serious trailer music. Btw, any idea if it's official source?

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China the only country to get serious trailer music. Btw, any idea if it's official source?

Looks like the "International Trailer" is the "Trailer 2" of Europe, so actually also Europe gets serious music.

[Zoaric]

QQ. China the only country to get serious trailer music. Btw, any idea if it's official source?

It has a good number of views and the channel has posted a ton of other Chinese trailers.
I assume it's official, but I'm not sure.

[Ghâzh]

Looks like the "International Trailer" is the "Trailer 2" of Europe, so actually also Europe gets serious music.

Trailer 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AjY_nRdqE

[MrTharne]

QQ. China the only country to get serious trailer music. Btw, any idea if it's official source?

It has a good number of views and the channel has posted a ton of other Chinese trailers.
I assume it's official, but I'm not sure.

It's japanese btw.

[Tornwar]

Outside China there's only USA in the world lol

http://massivelyop.com/2016/05/05/ch...one-else/?Dmxy

Coming from BBC, which is based in the UK, who is getting it even earlier (on may 30th). These guys obviously dunno facts lol

[Deleted]

Trailer 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AjY_nRdqE

I mean, "Trailer 2" (the one you just linked) is for USA theaters.
"International Trailer" (the 1 minute long one) is for European theaters, and in many European Warcraft FB/Twitter/YouTube official pages the International Trailer is actually called "Trailer 2".

[Ghâzh]

I mean, "Trailer 2" (the one you just linked) is for USA theaters.
"International Trailer" (the 1 minute long one) is for European theaters, and in many European Warcraft FB/Twitter/YouTube official pages the International Trailer is actually called "Trailer 2".

Okay you lost me. What I'm saying is that the Chinese Japanese have the most epic music to date. We westerns need some love too.

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It's the same track... zzz...

[Tornwar]

Okay you lost me. What I'm saying is that the Chinese Japanese have the most epic music to date. We westerns need some love too.

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It's the same track... zzz...

The music playing in the Japanese trailer is the music from the International trailer and the end of the trailer it plays the music from the first trailer we got

[Zoaric]

Link to the sweepstakes here.

[Tornwar]

I just found the dubstep music from the second trailer and on its own it is an awesome song. It just doesn't work well on a fantasy movie trailer XD

[CthulhuFhtagn]

I just found the dubstep music from the second trailer and on its own it is an awesome song. It just doesn't work well on a fantasy movie trailer XD

Never realized it was Prodigy since I haven't listened to the latest album. Now I can't stop imagining the trailer with Smack My Bitch Up or Their Law in the background

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Link to the sweepstakes here.

I've never seen him so serious until now