French WWI concert scrapped after far-right fuss over rapper

[In Ogres We Trust]

Because he's part of the commemoration?

How is it not appropriate? He's supposed to rap in honor of the dead. That's about as appropriate as it comes for a commemoration.

Because a significant portion of the population finds rap to be abhorrent garbage, and it has no place at a ceremony honoring the dead.

[Reeve]

You haven't given an actual reason... I mean how is rapping appropriate at a WW1 Verdun memorial?

Because it's memorializing Verdun.

[Deleted]

He can sing about Verdun all he likes.

How is it appropriate for him to rap at this specific centennial commemoration?



Seems anachronistic and unrepresentative to say the least.

They could invite Niki Minsomething singing about bubblebutts for all I care, appropriate isn't relevant when someone is invited to begin with.

[Pangean]

All I'm saying is it's inappropriate, and you seem to understand why.

A black rapper doesn't represent the people who fell at Verdun.

Um I am asking you to tell me how it's inappropriate and you keep not answering. Step up and explain how it is.

[Reeve]

Because a significant portion of the population finds rap to be abhorrent garbage, and it has no place at a ceremony honoring the dead.

If people don't like the music, it's fine for them not to attend the concert, but for those that do, there's nothing inappropriate in using any particular type of music to do the commemoration.

I don't particularly like country music, but if someone wanted to have a country music commemoration on the 50th anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I wouldn't give a shit. I just wouldn't go to that particular commemoration concert.

[Pangean]

Because a significant portion of the population finds rap to be abhorrent garbage, and it has no place at a ceremony honoring the dead.

Because?

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[Kraenen]

How is it not? You are the one that made the claim it's inappropriate and are now hiding from stating how it is. Explain yourself.

How is it hiding to continuously respond to you and others? lol

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Because it's memorializing Verdun.

How so? In what way does a black rapper memorialize Verdun?

[Reeve]

All I'm saying is it's inappropriate, and you seem to understand why.

A black rapper doesn't represent the people who fell at Verdun.

A Puerto Rican Rapper seems to have managed to represent Alexander Hamilton pretty damned well.

There's no reason a black rapper can't show respect to the people who fell at Verdun, regardless of whether or not his skin color is the same as theirs was.

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How so? In what way does a black rapper memorialize Verdun?

By singing about their heroism and sacrifice? By singing about the tragedy they encountered? The horrors they endured?

[GennGreymane]

Because a significant portion of the population finds rap to be abhorrent garbage, and it has no place at a ceremony honoring the dead.

Seems the only ones bothered are this one group.

[Narwal]

Would President Bush book Kanye West for his grandchildrens birthday party? No, because Kanye has spouted off against the Bushes. This rapper has spouted off against France on a nationalistic level. Why would he be the one there to commemorate those of French nationalism?

[In Ogres We Trust]

If people don't like the music, it's fine for them not to attend the concert, but for those that do, there's nothing inappropriate in using any particular type of music to do the commemoration.

Would you use rap music at a funeral for your siblings, parents, or grandparents, and yes, rap is an entirely useless genre of music (if you can even call it that)?

[Kraenen]

They could invite Niki Minsomething singing about bubblebutts for all I care, appropriate isn't relevant when someone is invited to begin with.

I don't think it does a good job of memorializing Verdun to invite Niki Minaj to sing about bubble butts. That's what I mean by inappropriate.

[In Ogres We Trust]

A Puerto Rican Rapper seems to have managed to represent Alexander Hamilton pretty damned well.

There's no reason a black rapper can't show respect to the people who fell at Verdun, regardless of whether or not his skin color is the same as theirs was.

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By singing about their heroism and sacrifice? By singing about the tragedy they encountered? The horrors they endured?

Why are you citing a musical play that a large segment of the population has no desire to see as a success for a war memorial?

[Narwal]

A Puerto Rican Rapper seems to have managed to represent Alexander Hamilton pretty damned well.

There's no reason a black rapper can't show respect to the people who fell at Verdun, regardless of whether or not his skin color is the same as theirs was.

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By singing about their heroism and sacrifice? By singing about the tragedy they encountered? The horrors they endured?

You guys missed the whole point. They cited the fact that this rapper has lyrics that are anti-France. This disqualifies him from being authentically able to represent French Nationalism. Though I'm sure they also distaste the genre.

[Puri]

There's no reason a black rapper can't show respect to the people who fell at Verdun, regardless of whether or not his skin color is the same as theirs was.

Black people fought on both sides of the war, some volunteered, some were forced. It was just in the ending age of colonization. So I don't see why skin color would matter at all.

[Reeve]

You guys missed the whole point. They cited the fact that this rapper has lyrics that are anti-France. This disqualifies him from being authentically able to represent French Nationalism.

Apparently their objection was that he said France is a nation of "non-believers." That's not anti-France, unless you think being a believer is inherently good and being a non-believer is inherently bad.

Besides, Raybourne's objection has nothing to do with this, and seems to be because he's a "black rapper," which is somehow inappropriate according to him.

[Pangean]

How is it hiding to continuously respond to you and others? lol

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How so? In what way does a black rapper memorialize Verdun?

"You are the one that made the claim it's inappropriate and are now hiding from stating how it is". I bet you think you are cute when you dissemble to defend yourself. Step us and be clear how is it inappropriate?

[Kraenen]

By singing about their heroism and sacrifice? By singing about the tragedy they encountered? The horrors they endured?

You're saying this guy wrote several songs about Verdun?

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Black people fought on both sides of the war, some volunteered, some were forced. It was just in the ending age of colonization. So I don't see why skin color would matter at all.

It's not really representative.

[Reeve]

You're saying this guy wrote several songs about Verdun?

I don't know what he wrote. I know if I were going to be doing a commemorative rap concert for the Verdun commemoration, I'd either write Verdun related songs, or I'd use existing songs about war, Verdun, or national pride.

That's how we do it with all the other musical types we use for these sorts of events.

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You're saying this guy wrote several songs about Verdun?

I don't know what he wrote. I know if I were going to be doing a commemorative rap concert for the Verdun commemoration, I'd either write Verdun related songs, or I'd use existing songs about war, Verdun, or national pride.

That's how we do it with all the other musical types we use for these sorts of events.

[Dug]

Would you use rap music at a funeral for your siblings, parents, or grandparents, and yes, rap is an entirely useless genre of music (if you can even call it that)?

If they were a fan of rap, maybe? You know not all rap/hip-hop songs are about fucking women and doing drugs/breaking the law, right?