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    You really didn't read the memo, and your conspiracy theory meter just went off the charts. You can't even be reckoned with, can you? I am bowing out. I can not compete with a zealot who lives and breathes internet conspiracies and can't even be bothered to read the evidence they post.
    You have to be completely out of touch and ignorant to think that this factual news that has been reported on pretty much every major news network, all around the world, is a "conspiracy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    You never proved that he actively debated opposition. He has to meet with opposition to debate them, do you have any proof he actively debated anything with opposing sides before doing anything? We are talking about a guy who said he would have the most transparent administration, who does not talk to the press unless he needs them to do his bidding and then has his administration suppress FOIA requests because he does not care what his opposition wants, he doesn't meet with them, nor would he ever consider what they want. Show his willingness to debate opposition.
    I gave you an example. Any Presidential debate he had is also an example. Any compromise he has made on policy is an example.

    Once again, it is about listening to opposing views, not changing political position. In fact he even points out that you should use debate to critique your opposition's stance, which you can't do if you refuse them a platform to present their views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    You are a right-winger because you are a right-winger. Its not really that complex.
    I support gay marriage and rights, am I still a right-winger? It's pathetic all you can do is label people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Which compare to what we've had in previous generations. The fact that you have more immediate access to news and tweets and such that confirm your bias about "kids these days" doesn't mean that students in general (not just the ones in the news stories you're reading) are any less open minded and willing to learn than in previous generations.
    Difference is in the past they were at least somewhat fact based. College students protesting Vietnam actually learned about the atrocities being committed and that we probably had no real business being there. The BLM and feminist tardos on campuses are blindly following lies and lash out violently at you when confronted with the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    You're a blue dot in a sea of red. I am sure you support all the countries that advent for the destruction of the United States.
    ????? Err what?

    The majority of the public supported the deal with 55% for and 45% against.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...rove-iran-deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I support gay marriage and rights, am I still a right-winger? It's pathetic all you can do is label people
    And? A right-winger can hold some left-wing positions you know. Now tell me, which political party are you going to vote for come Nov?
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    I am sure you support all the countries that advent for the destruction of the United States.
    They have not even given any indication of supporting Iran, so why are you sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    ????? Err what?

    The majority of the public supported the deal with 55% for and 45% against.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...rove-iran-deal

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    And? A right-winger can hold some left-wing positions you know. Now tell me, which political party are you going to vote for come Nov?
    It wont be Clinton or Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I support gay marriage and rights, am I still a right-winger? It's pathetic all you can do is label people
    Opposition to gay marriage/rights is typically a religious position, not necessarily a right wing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Opposition to gay marriage/rights is typically a religious position, not necessarily a right wing one.
    And yet most left winged people here, labels right winged people as gay bashing bigots, I guess it depends when the argument suits your purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    I gave you an example. Any Presidential debate he had is also an example. Any compromise he has made on policy is an example.

    Once again, it is about listening to opposing views, not changing political position. In fact he even points out that you should use debate to critique your opposition's stance, which you can't do if you refuse them a platform to present their views.
    A presidential debate? rofl. Uh yeah I choose my example to be a place where obama has to show up to get votes from the public. Every executive order he issues is because he will not listen to opposing views, because he believes his view is correct. That is why so many are being challenged and so many are being rules unconstitutional. He wants what he wants and if you don't give it to him, he uses an executive order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    I gave you an example. Any Presidential debate he had is also an example. Any compromise he has made on policy is an example.

    Once again, it is about listening to opposing views, not changing political position. In fact he even points out that you should use debate to critique your opposition's stance, which you can't do if you refuse them a platform to present their views.
    A presidential debate? rofl. Uh yeah I choose my example to be a place where obama has to show up to get votes from the public. Every executive order he issues is because he will not listen to opposing views, because he believes his view is correct. That is why so many are being challenged and so many are being ruled unconstitutional. He wants what he wants and if you don't give it to him, he uses an executive order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    And yet most left winged people here, labels right winged people as gay bashing bigots, I guess it depends when the argument suits your purpose.
    I have never been labelled a gay bashing bigot by left wingers on here. Not even by Advanta, who is far left they have left reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    You're a blue dot in a sea of red. I am sure you support all the countries that advent for the destruction of the United States.
    That didn't take you long to go from arguing the merits of a position to silly demonization of your opponent. Polls show that the majority position was that in favor of the deal.

    Oh by the way how do you "advent for the destruction"?
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    ????? Err what?

    The majority of the public supported the deal with 55% for and 45% against.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...rove-iran-deal

    Well one poll showed it, it must be the TRUTH. ONE POLL! You're right, I'm wrong. One poll from the university of Maryland must be what everyone wants. One poll conducted BEFORE obama's administration admitted to having their journalists put out sunshine and rainbows for it. You're right, I am wrong, you win because...heh 1 ONLINE poll shows what everyone in America wants. I guess if the poll was conducted on MMO champion it would have been published in acadmic books as the gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    A presidential debate? rofl. Uh yeah I choose my example to be a place where obama has to show up to get votes from the public. Every executive order he issues is because he will not listen to opposing views, because he believes his view is correct. That is why so many are being challenged and so many are being ruled unconstitutional. He wants what he wants and if you don't give it to him, he uses an executive order.
    You seem to still be struggling with the entire concept of what Obama is calling for.

    Let the opposition speak...that is it, he is not advocating you change your views or negotiate on policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    That didn't take you long to go from arguing the merits of a position to silly demonization of your opponent. Polls show that the majority position was that in favor of the deal.

    Oh by the way how do you "advent for the destruction"?
    Are you using the same online poll from the University of Maryland that is now the gospel on how people feel about the Iran deal? When you openly say that the United states needs to be destroyed.... that's pretty much my definition of advent for destruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I support gay marriage and rights, am I still a right-winger? It's pathetic all you can do is label people
    29% of conservatives support Gay Marriage according to Pew. Hardly an indicator you aren't a right winger. And I am not saying you are or aren't. People are free to judge you by what you post.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamperica View Post
    That statement might mean something if the bill had been accepted as a result, but in truth the "opposing views" ended up only being getting the moderates of his own party on board.
    Just quit like I did. You can't argue with the indoctrinated. We are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    29% of conservatives support Gay Marriage according to Pew. Hardly an indicator you aren't a right winger. And I am not saying you are or aren't. People are free to judge you by what you post.
    Which is obvious how you want people to judge you by using the term right-winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    indoctrinated.
    You are sure you know what that means?
    "The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."

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    I saw the speech and the President was right on the money.

    Once again he seems like the only adult in the room. I'm proud to have voted for him twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    Just quit like I did. You can't argue with the indoctrinated. We are wrong.
    You can't argue because you do not have a coherent argument.

    You haven't even worked out what you are arguing against, just that Obama said it so you have to disagree.

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