George Zimmerman states a fact and it's called an "insult"

[Jotaux]

Believing George Zimmerman was attacked is kind of like believing that Ted Bundy's first victims could've been muggers.

Well its possible Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, I mean he was being stalked by some nutjob with a gun in the dead of night. I certainly would not want to give him a chance to shoot me with it.

[TITAN308]

Well its possible Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, I mean he was being stalked by some nutjob with a gun in the dead of night. I certainly would not want to give him a chance to shoot me with it.

I'm not going to argue your point, but merely point out the fact people keep talking like GZ was walking around with his gun out in his hand. He wasn't.

[Felya]

Because the news media want to continue to report on him.

You chose to post this thread...

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This is a fact people, not an opinion. Bout time you all learned a thing or two.

Calling an obese person a fat pig is a fact. But its still a tactless insult

[Dug]

How much money did he get for his gun after all? Thought I last read it was quite a bit. Why doesn't he just fuck off to Montana or something if he wants to be left alone by all these people bullying him :'(

[purebalance]

It is an insult, it can also be true.

The article is as biased and from an insignificant trash newssite, it's not worth complaining about.

This. You really can't say for a fact that they were bad parents. Sometimes bad children rebel no matter what you do or say as a parent. Is it possible they were bad parents? Yes. Is it proven by what he said? Eh mostly no. Their actions post death were definitely on par with bad parents for not at least asking what they could have done better with him(publicly since they CHOSE to make everything public instead of just ranting and raving about Zimmerman), but on the same note they could easily have been grief stricken. If anyone was to blame for being awful in the whole case it was the public and people in this thread still saying he was a murderer. Kid was trespassing, guy who was on a neighborhood watch investigated and questioned him, kid attacked him and didn't expect him to be packing heat and got shot in the fight. Could the parents really have stopped that? No. Should they have at least wondered what they might have done wrong? Yes.

[Hammerfest]

You chose to post this thread...

And you're point is?

[purebalance]

Believing George Zimmerman was attacked is kind of like believing that Ted Bundy's first victims could've been muggers.

That's because the parents gave the media pictures of TM to use that made him look like a little innocent boy that dindu nuffin. I mean look at the facebook pages of half of the people killed by cops recently and there's really no doubt they attacked people/someone.

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[zEmini]

Can anyone provide a non biased FACT report regarding the incident?

FALSE - nobody can. Every person on the internet seems too be brainwashed by their favorite new station. I never seen more bullshit coming out of intelligent people from both sides of the argument in my fucking life.

Left media reports Trayvon as an incident child who just wanted to get ice cream. Zimmerman is an evil white racists who wanted to kill Trayvon.

Right media reports that Trayvon is a thug with a machine gun in his back pocket and Zimmerman was just trying to protect the community from crime.

[DSRilk]

I'm talking specifically to the point that TM's parents failed him.

You and a lot of other people seem to be under the very false assumption that a child's behavior is entirely within the control of their parents.

[Dug]

That's because the parents gave the media pictures of TM to use that made him look like a little innocent boy that dindu nuffin. I mean look at the facebook pages of half of the people killed by cops recently and there's really no doubt they attacked people/someone.

Did he have pictures of him beating people or torturing cats or something?

[TITAN308]

You and a lot of other people seem to be under the very false assumption that a child's behavior is entirely within the control of their parents.

I think a lot of people are naive to think that parents don't have an overwhelming influence on children.

Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but short of outright mental illness I firmly believe a solid family structure is paramount to growing up into a well rounded successful individual.

[zenkai]

You and a lot of other people seem to be under the very false assumption that a child's behavior is entirely within the control of their parents.

It's not, but its heavily influenced by how they are raised and the examples the parents are to the child

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I think a lot of people are naive to think that parents don't have an overwhelming influence on children.

Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but short of outright mental illness I firmly believe a solid family structure is paramount to growing up into a well rounded successful individual.

Damn, you beat me too it

[Bighud44]

This guy murders their son and just proceeds to pour salt in the wound. It wouldn't surprise me if he stalked this kid in the days before the murder.

He didnt murder their son. He defended himself, which is his legal right, and in doing son the kid was killed. He was tried and found INNOCENT...Just because it doesnt fit your "Black lives matter" agenda doesnt make it not a fact.

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Did he have pictures of him beating people or torturing cats or something?

Not of torturing cats, but there were pics of him with guns and drugs..

[Torched]

This guy murders their son and just proceeds to pour salt in the wound. It wouldn't surprise me if he stalked this kid in the days before the murder.

Self defense is now murder huh...

[zenkai]

Self defense is now murder huh...

only if the attacker isn't white.

[Jotaux]

Just because it doesnt fit your "Black lives matter" agenda doesnt make it not a fact

Where did I say anything about BLM? I'm not exactly a fan of theirs.

Not of torturing cats, but there were pics of him with guns and drugs..

How did Zimmerman get a hold of these pictures before he decided to stalk and murder the kid?

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Self defense is now murder huh...

I think your confused, I didn't say Trayvon killed anyone.

[Dug]

Not of torturing cats, but there were pics of him with guns and drugs..

Nowhere in our country are drugs a death sentence and unless you can provide proof I've never seen any pictures of him using drugs.

And why can't someone take pictures with a gun? Lots of people do it. Something tells me this wouldn't be a terrifying picture to you

[DSRilk]

I think a lot of people are naive to think that parents don't have an overwhelming influence on children.

Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but short of outright mental illness I firmly believe a solid family structure is paramount to growing up into a well rounded successful individual.

As a parent of three extremely different children, all of whom have been raised with similar outcomes in mind, I can tell you it has some effect, but how much differs greatly depending on the child's inherent personality among other things. I'm not disagreeing that a strong family structure isn't of benefit, but thinking there's a magic switch parents can flip on children to make them care about others or not act like idiots is incorrect. This gets far, far worse once they hit their teen years where psychologically speaking they are driven to follow peers more than parents.

[Jotaux]

only if the attacker isn't white.

It's not a race thing to me, I don't get the US fascination with everything being about race.