China is the most WELCOMING country for refugees while America lags behind.

[McNeil]

My country isn't on that list, thankfully. Hope it stays that way.

[Delekii]

the right to asylum it to seek refuge in "the next safe country".. given that Australia is an island in the middle of fucking nowhere... its pretty far from the "next safe country"

You never have to enter another country to get to Australia unless the country you come from is landlocked. By virtue of sharing borders with no-one, Australia is (one of) the next safe country to anywhere in the world with a beach.

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Well, imagine that Australia would do what Merkel did. Come to us, we welcome you with open arms. How many hundreds of thousands of immigrants a year would you be willing to welcome.

As many as we can integrate given the appropriate infrastructure. I don't know what the number is, but it is more than zero, which is the current number both parties in Australia stand behind. Zero. The Australian government's stance on people coming to Australia by boat is literally "you will not ever be settled in Australia if you come here as an asylum seeker". They use the words "illegal immigrants" (which they are not) to garner public support (which they get). Then, we ship them off to manau and png, where they sit in jail indefinitely, get denied basic medical care, and commit suicide when they finally break.

Proud multicultural Australia, masters of the nimby!

[Deleted]

The more important question is:
Where do you have to come from that China seems like a good place to live?
You are endangered there no matter where you come from.

[Azadina]

I'm from the UK. And I would. I know many people who would in fact take people in.

Then do so. Don't try cherrypicking your favourite refugee either, take someone at random.

[Deleted]

I'm from the UK. And I would. I know many people who would in fact take people in.

And yet you haven't. Funny how that works.

[Deleted]

And yet you haven't. Funny how that works.

They all preferred living on the street than with Shinra

[Deleted]

They all preferred living on the street than with Shinra

Well can't blame them for that, can you?

[May90]

The refugees that come over generally see terrorists as heroes

Citation needed.

[lonely zergling]

Incoming pictures of his ass.
And that is your fault!

There are many reports of refugees reporting that they get harassed by terrorist supporters in shelters. Surely not the majority but a big part.

[Hana Song]

What is the source for this?
I find it not believable that so many would take them here into their homes

[Xargoth6634]

That's cool. As far as I'm concerned, China's welcome to take all the refugees they want, less for us to take in.

[Dread Pirate Phayde]

This is one area that I'm content to let America lag behind in. I guess refugees will start making the cheap crap now.

[Katie N]

The sub title at the article says:
Global poll finds 10% would take in refugee – rising to 29% in UK – with Australia fifth on Amnesty index despite hardline policies

So, nowhere was the spotlight on the USA. And why would it, since the US is an upper midcard player in that field.
There are others, that are really lacking behind, like say Russia, Poland, Indonesia, Thailand and some others.

You think thailand and indonesia is in any shape to receive refugees? xD

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-1397005.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../refu-m29.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-1...fugees/4566234

[Rasulis]

The more important question is:
Where do you have to come from that China seems like a good place to live?
You are endangered there no matter where you come from.

Have you been to China? Have spent extended time and actually work in China?

I have worked and helped set up engineering firms in China. It is not perfect, but it is not a third world country by any stretch of the imagination.

[ramjb]

Oh bullshit. You'd only accept a very niche demographic token-refugee who fit the pity-party-image stereotype that happened to resonate the most with you. People wouldnt take an 'average refugee' if they were staring them in the face.

Yep. New Zealander here. Was talking to someone and he said he wanted to take in a female refugee so he could have exotic sex with her.

[May90]

Have you been to China? Have spent extended time and actually work in China?

I have worked and helped set up engineering firms in China. It is not perfect, but it is not a third world country by any stretch of the imagination.

Large cities in China can be somewhat decent. The countryside though... Yuck!

[Fyersing]

Citation needed.

Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

Now, this was 3 years ago, before most of Western Europe began allowing millions of "migrants" into their countries annually; now, mind you, this poll very specifically inquires about the support of violence against civilians and which isn't quite the same as throwing support behind or at least nominally tolerating jihadist groups. No, that number is far higher:


Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60


Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/


Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/m...for-extremism/

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://www.partisanlines.com/threads...bin-laden.712/

al-Jazeera Poll (2015): 81% of respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS).
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...-support-isis/

ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015: 1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half the total population.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...chised-6018357

Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015): Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians.
http://www.france24.com/en/20151214-...e-attacks-poll

ICM (2014): 16% of all French Muslims support ISIS, including 27% of those aged 18-24.
http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-ci...l-finds-266795

al-Jazeera Website Survey (2015): 81% of respondents approve of "regional conquests: by ISIS.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/05/25...slamic-state/#

As a general rule, most Muslims don't condone violence in the name of religious conquest -- however, and also as a general rule, they support it within the confines of their religion. To suggest otherwise is, at best, an inaccuracy and, at worst, a dangerous omission. If we're talking about how widespread and/or popular jihadism actually is we need to put this into perspective for most of the liberals our here (that means you to, Labour Party shills).

Jihad has nearly three times as many people who support it, globally, than President Barack Obama had when he was elected; to those of you from that little gray island off the coast of Europe, let this sink in. The worlds global population is about 12 times larger than the entire population of the UK, and a little under half of that number are openly supportive of various levels of jihad. What's worse is that, and a couple of the listed polls above illustrate this, there is no generation divide between these ideals -- in fact, jihad is more supported by those under-30 than it is by those over-30. As well, integration isn't working, because the number of native-born Muslims who support jihad on some level is static in almost all cases with a few exceptions, where the natives are actually more inclined towards jihad.

So if we understand that there is no numerical or logical reasoning for allowing such a high-risk group of people enter into any western nation, the only conclusion is that the people allowing them to do so are not inclined towards seeking out numerical facts or that they're incapable of making logically- or reasonably sound decisions. In either case, the solution is to not elect incompetent liberals.

Note: I'm not a conservative. I simply harp on liberals because I find them the greater of two evils.

[May90]

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I am aware of these numbers. But since we are talking specifically about refugees, it is not very relevant to the statement I expressed skepticism about.

[Theinquisition]

By all means china, step up and offer living space for these "refugees"

Oddly enough, I think they'd refuse, I don't think Chinas Welfare benefits pay enough for them.

[Valizix]

Jesus Christ, stop calling them all refugees, a lot of them are economic migrants...they are not all fleeing war.