Why does this forum lean to the left?

[Deleted]

There is a difference between a sitting senator and a random ranting person on youtube.

ofc, the former is paid to say these things, where the latter actually believes it.

If I was getting paid millions to deny climate change id be right along side them as well...

you cant really expect a country whos government is ran by big corp to have senators who form their own educated opinions. they would instantly lose all their funding and another corp puppet will appear

[Release]

ahh yes, because the democrats are known for their.. flexibility of opinion.

im not sure right now if your trolling, or just really clueless.

Democrats aren't known for willfully denying straight up science as far as i'm aware. Anyway I have no problem with people having right wing opinions I have some myself. I think this arbitrary division between right and left in every single political debate on MMO is utterly pointless and just inhibits any sort of constructive discussion.

[BuckSparkles]

That is incorrect. Its true it used to be that way, but millennials lean much more leftward and as they have begun to replace right-leaning boomers the country has shifted towards a center-left stance. The whole republican shtick has been about using their political power to halt the implementation of the agenda of this center left majority. Its doomed to fail though - much like the tide, you can't stop demographics.

I still think millennials will be the downfall of the US.

Hopefully I am wrong. But the signs I have been seeing are so very worrisome.

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Democrats aren't known for willfully denying straight up science as far as i'm aware.

Gender is a social construct.

The end.

[Deleted]

perfect example, if you made a broad false generalization about liberals that painted them in a bad light you would be infracted, this however will be fine.

Hahaha! No, no, no.
There are a lot of legitimately idiotic people who are on the extreme right of the spectrum that post a lot of complete trash. They get dealt with, just as much as anyone else posting equally idiotic trash gets dealt with.
But yeah you're such a victim. You're so oppressed.

[Reeve]

I don't know. The fact you are voting for Hillary Clinton kind of taints your image of "Conservative."

If you said "I am not voting this election because neither Clinton Nor Trump represents me" than sure, I could believe you.

Are you suggesting Hillary Clinton isn't conservative? She's about as establishment as they come.

[Skroe]

That is incorrect. Its true it used to be that way, but millennials lean much more leftward and as they have begun to replace right-leaning boomers the country has shifted towards a center-left stance. The whole republican shtick has been about using their political power to halt the implementation of the agenda of this center left majority. Its doomed to fail though - much like the tide, you can't stop demographics.

Wrong again.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/li...ervatives.aspx


Figure 1: More Americans identify as Moderate or Conservative than Liberal by far.


Figure 2: 21% of Independents identify as Liberals...


Figure 3: but 33% of Independents identify as Conservative


Figure 4: and 41% of Indepndents identify as Moderate and 36% of Democrats.

That's the picture of Center-Right.

[BuckSparkles]

Because Clinton is liberal. I guess Obeezy was, too.

Considering Obama is trying to get all the schools in the country to cater to transgendered folks, and the fact the white house shined rainbow colors on the white house (yet oddly missed the 4th of July colors) kind of makes me believe Obama is a liberal, yeah...

[Deleted]

The truly informed lean in neither direction and understand the whole thing is a game to keep you subjugated and 'engaged'.

No, I don't think hippies are the ones who are best informed.

[PC2]

Are you suggesting Hillary Clinton isn't conservative? She's about as establishment as they come.

Are you saying her socially progressive ideas are just a lie to dupe voters?

[BuckSparkles]

Are you suggesting Hillary Clinton isn't conservative? She's about as establishment as they come.

Clinton is whatever makes he most popular at the time.

I know it's an internet meme, but the best debate would be Clinton debating herself vs 8 years ago vs 16 years ago vs whatever years ago.

But no, I don't think Clinton is anything conservative.

[Reeve]

Interestingly a few months ago I had occasion to meet my ex-girlfriend's parents. They're from Argentina and consider themselves to be conservative, as my girlfriend did. I told them that I'm a little left of center. The father immediately went on alert in his posture and tone, but when I described my values to him, he said, "You're not on the left. You just think you are because you live in the United States."

[Bollocks]

ahh yes, because the democrats are known for their.. flexibility of opinion.

im not sure right now if your trolling, or just really clueless.

Well Hillary has been called a pathological liar for excessively changing her views over the years.

[BuckSparkles]

Are you saying her socially progressive ideas are just a lie to dupe voters?

Clinton doesn't lie. It's all part of a vast right wing conspiracy to pick on her.

[Pangean]

I don't know. The fact you are voting for Hillary Clinton kind of taints your image of "Conservative."

If you said "I am not voting this election because neither Clinton Nor Trump represents me" than sure, I could believe you.

Of the two main candidates Clinton is the conservative. Trump is a radical populist.

[Reeve]

Are you saying her socially progressive ideas are just a lie to dupe voters?

I'm saying that socially progressive doesn't necessarily conflict with conservative overall.

[Lahis]

Finland seem to do fine though.

HAH!

Remember that 2008 recession that fucked up big part of the world, but they managed to somewhat recover from it?

Finland never recovered. I'm sitting here terrified at what will happen when the next global recession hits in 5-10 years.

[Deleted]

Clamp down on oligarchy, plutocracy, corruption, lack of empathy and compassion towards others of another creed. Change of ecocomic and social structure to accomodate a new era of technology. Transparency of government and what they do, who funds them and why. Close the fossil fuel industry, build a more sustainable future. Dig up the truth on many conspiracies that exist that have plagued the planet since JKF was assinated by the establishment. Rework money creation and relieve the private banks of their power to create money through the fractional reserve banking system. Close tax loopholes and have domestic & foreign policy debated and created by academics through scientific means. Deprivatise public services to stop profiteering, reverse the structure so that it's run from the bottom up. Last but not least, legalise non addictive, non harmful drugs such as cannabis and hallucinogens.

[Reeve]

Clinton is whatever makes he most popular at the time.

I know it's an internet meme, but the best debate would be Clinton debating herself vs 8 years ago vs 16 years ago vs whatever years ago.

But no, I don't think Clinton is anything conservative.

Trump could debate himself 8/16 years ago as well. As could most people. Everyone changes over decades of time. I know I sure as hell have.

[nonameelf]

europe has been doing fine...

yes so fine we have one nation tinkering on bankrupcy, 4 others given huge bailouts and a very very serious migration issue causing more nations to look towards aright agenda..

but yeh, leftie socialist policies totally worked out well here.

Are you talking about the nations that were formerly occupied by the Russians? Because they're in such a shitty shape because they were formerly occupied by the Russians.

[PC2]

I'm saying that socially progressive doesn't necessarily conflict with conservative overall.

Then she should be honest and self-identify as a progressive conservative.