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    Exclamation Sweden's city Malmö going on its knees

    http://www.sydsvenskan.se/2016-05-20...echock-i-malmo (link for swedish article)

    Google translated

    The opposition fragmented before tax shock in Malmo
    Opposition in Malmo raging after the audit giant PWC analysis of Malmö's economy. But opposition parties presenting completely different solutions to the looming deficit.

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    Auditing giant PWC analysis of Malmö's economy provides two huvudval:
    Raising the tax by 6.41 per hundred 2030.
    To streamline and tighten with 1.09 percent a year, about 200 million.
    - There is absolutely no question of any tax increase. We strive to reduce taxes in Malmö, Malmö moderate leader says Torbjörn Tegnhammar.
    So you decide to save $ 200 million a year?
    - I definitely choose efficiency. It sounds a lot of crowns. But a one percent efficiency for the year is not as extensive. And one percent will not be necessary if we get a functioning labor market policies, says Tegnhammar.
    Read more: Chat with the mayor of Malmo Katrin Stjernfeldt Jammeh (S)
    Neither liberals are willing to raise taxes.
    - A tax increase does not necessarily lead to increased revenue. It can lead to people moving from Malmo, says group leader Fredrik Sjögren (L).
    - What is needed is an efficient and above all unemployment combated.
    The Left Party left the government of Malmo and cooperation with the Social Democrats and the Green Party after the election in 2014. The main reason was precisely disagreement about the tax.
    The Left is willing to raise the tax directly.
    But they believe that a great responsibility also rests on the S-MP-government.
    - The center-right government reduced taxes by 140 billion in earned income tax credits. It is money that has disappeared from the welfare sector, says Councillor Hanna Thomé (V).
    - Our current Labour Government is very wimpy. The thumbs do not particularly like the earned income tax credit.
    But how much can Malmo residents' taxes increased?
    - We suggested 61 cents in the budget negotiations before 2016. It was nothing. Six crowns is obviously too much.
    - But I think in itself that more moves from Malmo because of poor school and leisure than a high tax, says Hanna Thomé.
    Sweden Democrats want to raise taxes.
    - We are not proponents of tax increases in Malmo. It is important that we get more people who live, work and pay taxes in Malmo, says municipal Magnus Olsson (SD).
    That leaves savings and rationalization?
    - Yes. And so we must send a clear signal to the government that the Malmö needs an immigration break.
    What would you save?
    - One thing we have to look at is obviously the cultural sector. The municipality may be able to increase the fee when going to the theater and other events. And look at the association grants. There are compounds with extreme views that can strangle contributions to.

    This is kind of sad currently 25% of the citys budget is made up off money given to them buy other "kommuner" (kind of like states) and every tenth kroner is spent on welfare. .
    Worth noting is that Malmö is the city in Sweden who has recieved the most immigrants in Sweden and has been openly asking for more since they Clain it will be good for their economy. Also that Sweden is currently looking into loans from the ECB to afford the pressure the immigration policy is putting on the economy.

    So what do the people of MMO-Champion think can be done about this and how can they reverse this negative trend.

    EDIT: Cant change the title from the spelling so if a mod can it would be nice
    Last edited by W1sp; 2016-05-23 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Spelling

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    That google translate is fucking atrocious man, nobody will be able to understand what this is about.
    In essense, what this says, is that Malmö is in dire straits or whatever you call it. They're screwed economically. And before you come in here to say it's all those evil socialists fault, Malmö is currently being lead by a rightwing party called Moderaterna. It's also the rightwing parties that have lowered the taxes, leading to this problem.
    On the other hand, the current Social Democrats government are a puncha pussies who can't get anything done to make this better.

    Everyone involved is an idiot. No solutions are being given.
    Last edited by mmoc4a603c9764; 2016-05-23 at 08:31 PM.

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    City without money.
    Housing is shit.
    Unemployment is high.

    "One thing we have to look at is obviously the cultural sector."

    Darwinned.

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    It's been mismanaged so fucking much over the years by incompetent politicians who engage in wishful thinking rather than taking pragmatic stances on issues.

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    /u/mooneye we need you. Please translate for us plebs that do not understand this horrible Google translation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    It's been mismanaged so fucking much over the years by incompetent politicians who engage in wishful thinking rather than taking pragmatic stances on issues.
    Yepp. But let's see how long it takes before people start making this about evil socialism and immigration. Why the hell OP thinks this deserves to be discussed on an international forum, where people don't know jack about Malmö if they ain't from Sweden, I'll never understand.
    This ain't worth a thread here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    That google translate is fucking atrocious man, nobody will be able to understand what this is about.
    In essense, what this says, is that Malmö is in dire straits or whatever you call it. They're screwed economically. And before you come in here to say it's all those evil socialists fault, Malmö is currently being lead by a rightwing party called Moderaterna. It's also the rightwing parties that have lowered the taxes, leading to this problem.
    On the other hand, the current Social Democrats government are a puncha pussies who can't get anything done to make this better.

    Everyone involved is an idiot. No solutions are being given.
    So, politics as usual then?
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    Looks like you need Trump to make Malmo great again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    City without money.
    Housing is shit.
    Unemployment is high.

    "One thing we have to look at is obviously the cultural sector."

    Darwinned.
    Sounds like Detroit USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Yepp. But let's see how long it takes before people start making this about evil socialism and immigration. Why the hell OP thinks this deserves to be discussed on an international forum, where people don't know jack about Malmö if they ain't from Sweden, I'll never understand.
    This ain't worth a thread here.
    Immigrants are relevant to economic policy if they have a noticeably different voting pattern than natives.

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    It's still racist to state the obvious right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    So, politics as usual then?
    Yes. Like any place, anywhere in the world. The US has plenty of cities in similar situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Sounds like Detroit USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furell View Post
    It's still racist to state the obvious right?
    Heeere we gooooo! Here we fucking go. Yeah go ahead, state your ignorance.

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    Malmö is full of immigrants. Coincidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Immigrants are relevant to economic policy if they have a noticeably different voting pattern than natives.
    How is that relevant to this issue in the slightest when ALL political parties have mismanaged Malmö over several years?

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    You can't have a thread about Sweden without it devolving into an argument about refugees, so I think there should be a law like Godwin's law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furell View Post
    It's still racist to state the obvious right?
    It doesn't seem to be related to refugees though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    How is that relevant to this issue in the slightest when ALL political parties have mismanaged Malmö over several years?
    Does Sweden/Malmo have an even distribution of left, center-left, center-right, and right parties? Or do more lean one way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    Yep!

    Any discussion on any forum in any thread with a topic related to Sweden will eventually without exception be turned into a discussion on racism and immigration
    Mass low skill immigration is bad so raising awareness through discussion is a good thing.

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