Have you ever seen future?

[Howard Moon]

I have that all the time, it's simply Déjà vu.

[Deleted]

Yes, yes I have.

Like.. I saw my grandmother do things before and now.. My mother does them instead. It's not really the same but.. CLOSE! Maybe it's more like history repeating itself or deja-whatever-do.

But this one time, at band camp, I had a dream that I got to go home and then I did.

[schwarzkopf]

Except no, it absolutely isn't

It is - I suggest you do some research before discounting reality dude

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I have that all the time, it's simply Déjà vu.

That isn't predicting the future, that's just the delusion of having done so

Predicting the future is a common thing - IF you don't expect to predict unusual or specific events.

e.g. I predict the sun will come up tomorrow at 6:27 AM local time.
e.g. I predict that tomorrow I will have no work to do, and will be bored for the majority of the 8 hours I'm at work.
e.g. August the 30th I'll be playing my mage on Legion.

See - all reasonable and likely predictions.

Predicting the future is one of the functions of the brain, predicting unlikely and unforeseen things by definition isn't.

[Segus1992]

It is - I suggest you do some research before discounting reality dude

Research into SEEING the future? Yeah, I have. It's called logic and the fact that nothing called "the future" exists.

This is some real legit sub-80 IQ stuff to believe in, what the hell.

PREDICTING the future is good guesswork, and obviously completely different.

[schwarzkopf]

Research into SEEING the future?

Yep - that's the one. Come back when you've got some learning.

A good source is to read up on the structure and function of dreaming, and the predictive nature of the REM dreams.

If you have thousands and thousands of predictive dreams, then having one or two of them come true is entirely to be expected.

[Segus1992]

Yep - that's the one. Come back when you've got some learning.

A good source is to read up on the structure and function of dreaming, and the predictive nature of the REM dreams.

If you have thousands and thousands of predictive dreams, then having one or two of them come true is entirely to be expected.

I mentioned this. This is not seeing the future, this is guessing it.

Saying "tomorrow Jesus Christ will fly a motorized raptor into the pentagon" and having it then occuring is not SEEING the future, it's making a prediction and then it happens by coincidence.

It's really not difficult to understand the difference between SEEING the future and PREDICTING it.

[Mayhem]

It is - I suggest you do some research before discounting reality dude

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That isn't predicting the future, that's just the delusion of having done so

Predicting the future is a common thing - IF you don't expect to predict unusual or specific events.

e.g. I predict the sun will come up tomorrow at 6:27 AM local time.
e.g. I predict that tomorrow I will have no work to do, and will be bored for the majority of the 8 hours I'm at work.
e.g. August the 30th I'll be playing my mage on Legion.

See - all reasonable and likely predictions.

Predicting the future is one of the functions of the brain, predicting unlikely and unforeseen things by definition isn't.

That´s not predicting the future, that´s an educated guess about what will happen based on known variables. Predicting the future would be something you have no knowledge about. Like some random guy having a heart attack. Something that can only be confirmed after the fact it happened.

[schwarzkopf]

I mentioned this.

Good - then we are in agreement, once in a while you will see the future.

Just out of interest, the way our brain works is fascinating - suggest you do some research on it.

Bye.

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That´s not predicting the future,

Title of thread "seeing the future".

We predict the future all the time, seeing the future is a bit harder.

[Mayhem]

Good - then we are in agreement, once in a while you will see the future.

Just out of interest, the way our brain works is fascinating - suggest you do some research on it.

Bye.

... The thing is that you don´t know that you see the future, therefor you don´t see the future. Dreaming about stuff that happend through out the day and by coincidence experiencing a very similiar situation at some point in time is not predicting the future.

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Title of thread "seeing the future".

We predict the future all the time, seeing the future is a bit harder.

Same thing actually, you also don´t see the future. You can´t tell it´s the future.

[Segus1992]

Good - then we are in agreement, once in a while you will see the future.

Just out of interest, the way our brain works is fascinating - suggest you do some research on it.

Bye.

I have to ask, do you believe in anything spiritual? Because that would explain this argument.

I ask because I can't decide if it's an IQ thing or a denial thing that leads you to believe actually seeing the future (a thing that does not exist, unless you believe in fate) is possble.

Then again it's likely an IQ thing that leads you to believe guessing a thousand times and being right once is seeing the future.

[OreoLover]

Your brain remembered a dream, because reality was slightly similar?

Tell me more.

[Deleted]

I remember watching an interesting episode about this - Through the Wormhole: Is there a Sixth Sense?.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qM6yLngNnDY

I was excited for that show when it was announced, but then it turned out to be one of those pseudo-religious pseudo-philosophical shows with way too much unscientific BS. It should've just been a show where Morgan Freeman asks questions like "Is there a God?" or "Do ghosts exist?" or "Have we been visited by aliens?" and then all that crappy "spooky" music drops out, and he just simply says "no, there isn't / no, they don't / no, we haven't", and that'd be the end of the episode.

Instead, it's a bit like those monster shows where you've got a full episode worth of this and that, and at the end, you've actually learned absolutely nothing, and the narrator says shit like "well, maybe the monster is still out there, and we will never know."

Disappointing show.

[Howard Moon]

That isn't predicting the future, that's just the delusion of having done so

You mean 'illusion', not 'delusion'.

Déjà vu gives you the illusion of experiencing something you've experienced or dreamed about before.

Delusion would be if I actually believed those were special powers and I were convinced that I could "see the future".

[Stacyrect]

I used to get a lot of deja vu moments and they really really really unnerved the shit out of me. The worst one was after helping a friend move I was sitting in the armchair drinking a beer, was dawn at this point, and I realized I had dreamt this exact shit like a year or so ago.I don't dream so much anymore but when I do I have a very vivid memory of them. The last time I got a deja vu moment was on my road trip to wisconsin.

[Deleted]

I wouldn't really describe it like this. It uses actual studies and scientific evidence/experiments to explain things. You should watch this episode

I've watched most of the show. It's not that there isn't scientific evidence shown in the show. It just leaves way too much room for philosophical, religious and mythological speculation.

[Gref]

I experienced the stuff I had seen in the dreams a few times. Especially one was so intense that I was almost shocked by it because of its complexity.

Saw a forest in my dream. A hut. Construction machines etc.at the same place. Some kind of road construction was taking place. It was an incredibly vivid dream

Following week I was there. Standing together with my father. Everything was exact same. Even the crossbar for pull ups which is put there for fun.

[Simulacrum]

Good - then we are in agreement, once in a while you will see the future.

Just out of interest, the way our brain works is fascinating - suggest you do some research on it.

Bye.

Yes, once in a while your delusions will happen to come true, just because of the sheer number of them and because they're at least somewhat rooted in reality, us being embodied minds and all. But that's not "seeing the future" any more than throwing darts at the wall and painting the bullseye around them is "hitting the target". I mean, I guess your could stretch the definition to the point where it's included... but I doubt anyone would be very impressed if they knew the full context.

[Sorshen]

I wonder who voted 'yes' rofl.

[Celista]

Yes...I think things like this are normal. People say it's deja vu (and some of it likely is) but when the event is very specific and involves people besides yourself who are outside of your control of events, it is less deja vu and more (imo) precognition or something else. Although considering the nature of such events, it's not very testable.

My theory is that our perception of time is imperfect.

I also believe in things like universal consciousness, that thoughts are energy and you can pick up on them if you want to. I have had one or two close friends where we can sense when one is thinking about the other, etc.

Very woo-woo stuff and untestable but whatever. I think this stuff is normal to the human experience, we just don't talk about it.

[May90]

Yes, I have played Mass Effect.

Seriously though, what you describe is known as deja vu effect. It is not "seeing the future"; rather, it is your subconscious mind tricking you into believing that you have already seen this moment before, while actually you have not.