Cincy Zoo kills critically endangered gorilla to save boy

[Eviscero]

Had to be done, but the family of that fuckwad child needs to pay a fine or something.

Yeah that four year old is a real fuckwad.

[spinner981]

Kill the parents that can't look after their own kid.

From what I understand the mother was responsible for multiple children, so unless you want parents to start using those child leashes, I don't know how she is to be expected to keep her eyes on all children at once, especially with babies.

[NoiseTank13]

From what I understand the mother was responsible for multiple children, so unless you want parents to start using those child leashes, I don't know how she is to be expected to keep her eyes on all children at once, especially with babies.

... don't take them to a fuckin' zoo?

[muto]

Wait was the gorilla a male?

Yes. They were hoping he would father more gorillas.

Hopefully the family lawyers up and sues the zoo over it. No 4 year old should be able to wander into an enclosure with a dangerous animal.

That's cute considering humans are the most dangerous animals on the earth. I'm pretty sure we have to be one of the only species that kills each other for fun, and kills other animals for fun. At least when other animals kill each other it's because they're protecting their territory, their young, or are hungry. Also, like I said if someone wants to get in bad enough they will find a way no matter how secure the facility is.

[spinner981]

... don't take them to a fuckin' zoo?

"Sorry Timmy, we can't go to the zoo because the law mandates that any parent with more than 2 children under the ages of 8 are prohibited from taking them there."

[lightofdawn]

shoulda just let the gorilla raise him... if tarzan has taught us anything, it's that gorillas are better people than people are.

[NoiseTank13]

"Sorry Timmy, we can't go to the zoo because the law mandates that any parent with more than 2 children under the ages of 8 are prohibited from taking them there."

Well, alright then, enjoy having your kid mauled to death by a pissed off Silverback because you for some reason don't have the responsibility and ability to keep an eye on your eight extremely young children who don't have the faculties to realize why the fence is there and why the animals are closed off.

[spinner981]

Well, alright then, enjoy having your kid mauled to death by a pissed off Silverback because you for some reason don't have the responsibility and ability to keep an eye on your eight extremely young children who don't have the faculties to realize why the fence is there and why the animals are closed off.

Why does the zoo have a fence so flimsy that a three year old could get through it in a matter of mere moments into the exhibit of an endangered gorilla to begin with?

[Fargus]

It is. 1 human > ∞ animals.

What a load of rubbish.

Do you know how vital bees are to the world's food production?

Yeah, let's get rid of all the bees just so we can save one human being. And let millions and millions die of starvation in the process.

See, this is why anyone who says "humans > animals" as some kind of absolute statement is an idiot. It's not absolute and it will never be.

Do you have any pets? How would you feel if I killed them all to save Charles Manson's life? If you say you're okay with that, then you don't deserve to have any pets.

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From what I understand the mother was responsible for multiple children, so unless you want parents to start using those child leashes, I don't know how she is to be expected to keep her eyes on all children at once, especially with babies.

Oh lookie here, from spinning animal abuse to spinning lazy and irresponsible parenting. And the former is not a reference to this thread, btw.

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What a load of rubbish.

Do you know how vital bees are to the world's food production?

Yeah, let's get rid of all the bees just so we can save one human being. And let millions and millions die of starvation in the process.

See, this is why anyone who says "humans > animals" as some kind of absolute statement is an idiot. It's not absolute and it will never be.

Do you have any pets? How would you feel if I killed them all to save Charles Manson's life? If you say you're okay with that, then you don't deserve to have any pets.

Absurd argument that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Think about it for a second: your little brother is in a life or death situation and it's either him or the gorilla.
What choice would you want the zoo's staff to make?

[Fargus]

Absurd argument that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Think about it for a second: your little brother is in a life or death situation and it's either him or the gorilla.
What choice would you want the zoo's staff to make?

It's not an absurd argument when what I am actually quoting is saying "1 human > ∞ animals."

Learn how to fucking read.

[GrinningMan]

Oh look.

MMO-Champion committing cerebral abortion over a pretty open and shut case.

Child was in danger, ape was an endangered species. Was the ape used for breeding purposes (actively, not this WELL WE HOPED HE WOULD GET THE TINGLE AND... bullshit.)? No? Then fuck all.

[bladeXcrasher]

Jack Hanna said they where right to shoot the gorilla, and he actually knows more than all of you.

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Nope.



My "math" is fine. Sarcasm is a thing. And sorry, no one's perfect. And no parent can be perfectly vigilant 100% of them time. You either know this from experience or you don't know it all.

My kids have managed to never fall in a gorilla enclosure.....

The point is that no you cant be vigilant 100% of the time, btu when in a public place like a zoo, especially one with dangers, you need to be vigilant 100% of the time. You can slack off at home.

[Mistame]

Do you know how vital bees are to the world's food production?

I do. But if every single bee in the world was charging my child I'd napalm the entire fucking swarm.

Yeah, let's get rid of all the bees just so we can save one human being. And let millions and millions die of starvation in the process.

You're clearly missing the context. In a scenario where there's a choice between saving a human life at the expense of animal lives or letting the animals kill the human, the human life should be the priority.

See, this is why anyone who says "humans > animals" as some kind of absolute statement is an idiot. It's not absolute and it will never be.

Or maybe, you're just reading a generalization and making it into an absolute just to have something to bitch about.

Do you have any pets?

Not if I can help it. But I never said there weren't exceptions. Again, my statement was not intended to be an absolute but merely a generalization of a given scenario where there's a choice between a human life and that of an animal.

[spinner981]

Oh lookie here, from spinning animal abuse to spinning lazy and irresponsible parenting. And the former is not a reference to this thread, btw.

Personally I find it quite petty that people are just upset that some gorilla died and are taking their anger out by blaming anyone they possibly can.

"Oh noes, an animal died! Humans are eeeeeeviiiiiiil!"

Reminds me of that one lion that got shot and for some reason the internet exploded out of anger over the death of one animal.

[Celista]

From what I understand the mother was responsible for multiple children, so unless you want parents to start using those child leashes, I don't know how she is to be expected to keep her eyes on all children at once, especially with babies.

And this is why you don't have more children than you can reasonably watch/take care of. Birth control is a thing.

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The point is that no you cant be vigilant 100% of the time, btu when in a public place like a zoo, especially one with dangers, you need to be vigilant 100% of the time. You can slack off at home.

Honestly it does not sound like she was being all that vigilant in the first place, considering that the zoo hasn't had an incident like this before and how hard it typically is to get inside animal enclosures.

[Fargus]

I do. But if every single bee in the world was charging my child I'd napalm the entire fucking swarm.

Then you're an idiot who has doomed huge swaths of the planet's population.

You're clearly missing the context. In a scenario where there's a choice between saving a human life at the expense of animal lives or letting the animals kill the human, the human life should be the priority.

I'm not missing any context. You claimed 1 human > infinite animals. This is not true. I gave you an example to demonstrate to you why this is not true.

Or maybe, you're just reading a generalization and making it into an absolute just to have something to bitch about.

Then don't make stupid statements that are not based on logic. You can back-peddle all you want, but you made that statement and I pointed out how stupid it was.

[Dyra]

It's a tragic state of affairs, but the zoo made the right call.

A crying shame since they'll have lost doubly since I bet they'll be sued by the family of the child. If not also face a fine for inadequate precautions against someone getting into the enclosure.

Money they now need to try to replace their gorrila.

[spinner981]

And this is why you don't have more children than you can reasonably watch/take care of. Birth control is a thing.

So basically, instead of killing gorillas, kill your children instead. Because apparently if there is ever any accident that ever occurs where a parent wasn't the image of perfection in parenting, suddenly limiting childbirths akin to china is being considered.

Honestly it does not sound like she was being all that vigilant in the first place, considering that the zoo hasn't had an incident like this before and how hard it typically is to get inside animal enclosures.

If a three year old did it in mere moments (which I assume to be the case, otherwise literally anyone else would have alerted somebody to the child jumping into the exhibit) then I doubt it was very effective. Also, I like how when a child gets in its the parent's fault but if there aren't any children getting in then that must be thanks to the zoo.