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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Heh, Hillary's attempts to downplay her screwups with the email thing are continually Hillarious to me (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!).



    That was Benghazi, though. Something which she's in the right on and Republican's are still making fools of themselves on.

    Totally different than the email debacle.
    I find it hard to blame Clinton for the email thing because she had to go through a lot of hoops to accomplish it.

    Any IT undergrad would have implemented the most minimal security policies, even before consulting with their client, Clinton, about taking steps to secure the server. They are at no fault in terms of the legality of Clinton's server but they would responsible for making sure it was secure.

    Multiple intelligence agencies sent emails to Clinton. Intelligence agencies. Are you telling me that they had no idea where they were sending classified information? I make sure my checks are going to the right destination in as a secured manner as possible, I at least get a receipt. You're telling me that intelligence agencies had no idea that they were sending to mail to Clinton's private server? Mind you that heads of state are constantly surrounded by security and intelligence personnel. Any electronic device in their possession thoroughly is screened. There is absolutely no way in hell that it wasn't known that Clinton was using a private server and that others had no problem with it before it became a huge news story. And no one sends highly classified data without knowing the end point. To indite Clinton for the emails would be just knicking the tip of the iceberg.

    I like how more people are cool with Snowden copying and exposing NSA procedures than Clinton being allowed to store her own emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's been the same committee...no? I pretty distinctly remember Gowdy's oh so smug and punchable face in just about every hearing on this since it started.
    Originally you used the word "investigations." I don't know what you mean by that. Now you're using the word "committee." I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that either, but if you mean what I think you mean, then no, it's not all been the same committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Oh fucking please - why don't you try an put in the actual fucking question instead on selectively editing that out. The question IS THE ENTIRE CONTEXT of the rest of his answer. You are pathetic.

    MATTHEWS: If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under law. Should abortion be punished?
    Sunshine, the context of the mainstream pro-life position that I provided, is that abortion is a crime or considered murder, else there is nothing that can be punished. In other words the context of the question from Matthews is the same context of the mainstream pro-lifers position, that abortion is a crime and needs to dealt with. And so in that case Trump was advocating to punish the woman because he doesn't know that even if it is considered murder, the mainstream pro-life position is, the woman is a victim and should not be punished. I am amused that you ranted about this issue and don't really understand it. Amused, not surprised.

    Read the following so that you might understand what we are discussing:
    http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/05/...-for-abortion/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Originally you used the word "investigations." I don't know what you mean by that. Now you're using the word "committee." I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that either, but if you mean what I think you mean, then no, it's not all been the same committee.
    I'm thinking of the one headed by Gowdy (however you spell his name) and with that other rat-faced guy with the super punchable smug face on it...though he may be the one that was "investigating" Planned Parenthood and using made up charts as evidence. It's hard to keep all these people with punchable faces straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's hard to keep all these people with punchable faces straight.
    I can see that. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Discussing anything with you is pointless. You do not have the faculties for rational discourse. You are so incredibly biased and one sided you make Endus look impartial by comparison.




    Would you possibly mind controlling the raging fire as you say that? I am perfectly fine but all my research and spellbooks are being repaired and fireproofed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Being a moderate Senator and a modestly successful Secretary of State who was barely listened to by her boss and Susan Rice. Yeah, she's a real monster.
    But emails and Benghazi!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Which is why this court case is going through. Trump made the mistake of making fun of the Judge of the court case, and now I can expect him to be royally reamed for EVERYTHING. You don't make fun of the judge of your court case. That is a good way to make sure that the court case convicts you on any little thing. Including lesser charges.
    Not true. The judge may push to continue the court case, but any evidence of a Judge making a decision based off of personal interest will lose in the end.
    Quote Originally Posted by TCGamer View Post
    If I had the cash to pay a DDoSer, I would in a heartbeat. Especially with the way the anti-legacy crowd has been attacked by the pro-legacy crowd day in and day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    What you quoted does not validate your comment - and just like Pangean, you leave out the fact that his answers are based on a hypothetical question that was asked first.

    BTW - being pro-life does NOT automatically mean you have to ban abortions. I am pro-life but I definitely believe in making exceptions when it comes to the health of the mother, rape, and incest. What I DON"T agree with is abortion as a form of birth control - and I think THAT should not be allowed.
    It does, it proves that he has no idea of what he is talking about. There was no hypothetical question the statement reads as follows: Trump says abortion is a crime:

    MATTHEWS: But what crime is it?

    TRUMP: Well, it’s human life.
    Then he starts avoiding the question:
    MATTHEWS: No, should the woman be punished for having an abortion?

    TRUMP: Look...

    MATTHEWS: This is not something you can dodge.

    TRUMP: It’s a -- no, no...
    Then Matthews repeats Trump's position, that if Trump says abortion is a crime what should be the punishment for commiting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Woods View Post
    Wow, why isn't the media covering this more? I guess they are on Trump overload. Going to be so bad for Trump if he doesn't get elected he will have to go into exile. Maybe Tijuana.
    Also today in Trump:

    -Trump also said the "Mexican" judge is not fit to try the case because of his heritage. Stoking the racist vote, which he has locked up, so shrug.

    -Trump also donated some of the vet charity money to a charity who works closely with Sean Hannity who spins everything Trump does as amazing. #DontheCon giving favors to those that serve him well in the media.

    -Another Trump delegate was arrested, previous one for child porn, this one for plotting treason and to kill Americans. He has the best people working for him.
    Of course he's got conservatives lapping it up. He's their kind of president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Not disgusting at all. Just like Luis Gutierrez, the judge cares more about his "heritage" than he does about being an America. I have zero problem with Trump pointing this out if that is the way he feels. FFS, the judge belongs to the La Raza Lawyers. I am aware that they are not affiliated with the largest Hispanic racist organization - La Raza - but regardless, they are a ethnic-centered group which means they certainly have a bias.

    Trump pointing this out is no way, shape, or form RACIST. I am so sick and tired of people like you that have actually no idea what that word means and how to use it correctly. And even if YOU think it is racist, so fucking what - you are never going to vote for him and the people that WILL vote for him are certainly not going to change their mind based on what is just another bullshit attack by the left that is meant to demonize Trump. It is about as pathetic as Clinton's attempt to demean him with her idiotic "foreign policy" speech.

    Trump is going to be the next President and there isn't a single thing that the reprehensible liberal/progressive/democrats can do about it. They have been trying for a year without any success and that is the way it is going to continue.

    You are too dumb to be allowed exposure..Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    There was no hypothetical question the statement reads as follows: Trump says abortion is a crime:
    MATTHEWS: If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under law. Should abortion be punished?

    "if you say" - Trump never said that "abortion is a crime or abortion is murder", hence the question that Matthews asks is hypothetical.

    Also - Trump tried to say that the question he was asking required some reflection, but Matthews (in his typical blowhard style) refused to allow that and continued to basically badger Trump:


    MATTHEWS: If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under law. Should abortion be punished?

    TRUMP: Well, people in certain parts of the Republican Party and conservative Republicans would say, "yes, they should be punished."

    MATTHEWS: How about you?

    TRUMP: I would say that it’s a very serious problem. And it’s a problem that we have to decide on. It’s very hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdbond592 View Post
    You are too dumb to be allowed exposure..Seriously.
    Make sure to vote for Bernie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espe View Post
    Of course he's got conservatives lapping it up. He's their kind of president.
    He is the ugly face that was waiting under the mask of civility. The naked Id of the Republican Party laid bare for all the world to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telomerase View Post
    He is the ugly face that was waiting under the mask of civility. The naked Id of the Republican Party laid bare for all the world to see.
    Is that anything like the naked Id and ugly face of the Democrats that we saw when Obama was the President? I do believe it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Not true. The judge may push to continue the court case, but any evidence of a Judge making a decision based off of personal interest will lose in the end.
    When there is multiple states doing their investigations that is cause for alarm. Especially when it has withstood many requests to throw the case out. Sorry but you have nothing to back up your case here. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses MILLIONS of dollars because of this and will then have to deal with the RICO charges against him as well.

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    Publicly hang him, right next to Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    We don't grade fraudsters on a curve, and there's plenty of hate to go around.
    So are you saying Trump sat down in person, had face to face conversations with them, and told them to do x y z? I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm pointing out that this very business model is alive and well, still being practiced, yet I don't see you complaining about anyone else besides Trump. Why isn't the media reporting this? The people working for him act the same way any salesman, military recruiter, or loan issuer would do which is to get you to put your signature on the paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    Trump's University was an outright scam, it was not validated by none of the state and falsely advertised as a "university". Some the teachers were McDonald's employees or "skilled at high pressure sales". Noone were actual real state experts. There was nothing legit in this buisness and yet you are going to forgive him because others do it. You know what Trump could have done instead? Make an actual university with real teachers like any respectable buisnessman would do, given that he values more his integrity rather than money.
    Where's all the lawsuits for the business's that claim they can make your dick grow 4-6 inchs? That is a outright scam if you ask me. Real estate university? What did people honestly think they were going to learn other then being able to sign clients and make a sale? Real estate is 90% advertising and networking, that's it. There is no university, short of legally authorized class's that explain the law to you. Are you aware I can open a supermarket called bullshit university, and not have it actually be a university? I mean you basically just fucking repeated everything I already stated yet did not acknowledge that for profit collegiate business's do this shit everyday. Go ahead, call ITT tech, or you name it, ask them if your credits transfer. They won't, but guess what, it's not a real college and for all intensive purposes are just as much of a scam as Trump university. What is their to forgive? If you are a person who forked over money to enlarge your fucking dick, or take brash lessons in trump personality with a touch of real estate pizzazz who's really to blame? Your idea about respectable businessman, "actual university", and all that hyper care bear bullshit is actually handled by the board of realtors in your very own state and is essentially a 3 day crash course with a shitty test which you doll out hundreds of dollars for a license and a fucking lapel pin. In CT the class was like 300$, you pay some dues, and some other shit. That is real estate university.

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    Judge la raza is obviously biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    Judge la raza is obviously biased.
    You can keep repeating this bullshit all you want, but it isn't true. You are no better than Trump is. Not surprising by your posts though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    You can keep repeating this bullshit all you want, but it isn't true. You are no better than Trump is. Not surprising by your posts though.
    Judge laraza only gives scholarships to illegals I read somewhere.

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