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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    Trump University was basically a self-help course that taught you how to employ proper sales tactics and reach customers emotionally. This is what you're supposed to do if you want to be good at sales. Read the famous book "How to make friends and influence people" and you'll see very similar advice on getting the best of people in dealing and interactions.

    Going to any self-help course, you'll get people who find it life-changing and others who think it's bullshit. In this case the people who think it's bullshit are butthurt they spent thousands of dollars and weren't automatically made rich from it.

    I worked in retail for a healthcare provider and they taught many of the same principles in sales. Yes, it's kind of slimy to play on a person's heartstrings trying to get them to buy more than they probably should, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. They would tell you don't get an obese client to focus on exercising and sessions to lose 20lbs, get them to focus on not dying of a heart attack like their father did and they'll buy more. Emotional investment = sales.

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    All I saw was a black president using his race as a criticism shield, which is what he did.
    And blamed Bush......a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Looks like you haven't been paying attention to any of the Clinton scandals, or maybe you was too young to remember the 90s.
    Scandalous since Nixon

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Being a moderate Senator and a modestly successful Secretary of State who was barely listened to by her boss and Susan Rice. Yeah, she's a real monster.
    now I know you're a troll. I've seen you on here before claiming to be intelligent. No person with an ounce of brains, or a crumb of morality would vote or stand up for Clinton like that.

    How much did she pay you? Are you part of correct the record?

    Trump is a megalomaniac racist orange looking monster... and yet, Hillary is still the worse of the two by a country mile.

    They are both disgusting candidates, but you definitely proved you belong to the cult of Clinton. /smh. You can't fix stupid, though so no point in arguing with Clinton fans.

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  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    now I know you're a troll. I've seen you on here before claiming to be intelligent. No person with an ounce of brains, or a crumb of morality would vote or stand up for Clinton like that.

    How much did she pay you? Are you part of correct the record?

    Trump is a megalomaniac racist orange looking monster... and yet, Hillary is still the worse of the two by a country mile.

    They are both disgusting candidates, but you definitely proved you belong to the cult of Clinton. /smh. You can't fix stupid, though so no point in arguing with Clinton fans.
    While I'd hate to claim definitively to know his positions, I think he likes her foreign policy, as it's not isolationist garbage that damages the US, which is what he sees Trump's policy as..

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    While I'd hate to claim definitively to know his positions, I think he likes her foreign policy, as it's not isolationist garbage that damages the US, which is what he sees Trump's policy as..
    For the record, I don't support trump. I voted sanders. Neither Hillary or trump are viable candidates. just making a point that Clinton is worse because she's smart enough to get away with corruption, selling us out, etc where as trump is a loud mouth who won't get anything done.

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  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    For the record, I don't support trump. I voted sanders. Neither Hillary or trump are viable candidates. just making a point that Clinton is worse because she's smart enough to get away with corruption, selling us out, etc where as trump is a loud mouth who won't get anything done.

    Better to have an honest enemy than a dishonest friend
    But he isn't even an honest enemy. He has literally a 75% lie rate on Politifact and his entire campaign got lie of the fucking year because they couldn't find just 1 lie to use.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Is this going to sway Trump voters? Nope. Here comes the handwaves.
    I'd wager that a scandal that takes more than two seconds of reading to digest a headline will have about as much impact on Trump voters as Hillary's emails do on her electoral chances. That is to say, basically zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Being a moderate Senator and a modestly successful Secretary of State who was barely listened to by her boss and Susan Rice. Yeah, she's a real monster.
    My impression is that this is not an accurate framing of Clinton's time as SoS. Unless the NYT has drastically reframed reality in their portrayal of Clinton's roll in American policy in Libya, Obama seemed quite keen on listening to and taking Clinton's advice on foreign policy.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Looks like you haven't been paying attention to any of the Clinton scandals, or maybe you was too young to remember the 90s.
    I do.... Zomg Bill Clinton (not Hillary) lied about getting a blow-job! The horror! Hence the famous anti-bush Jr. Quote: "Clinton's lies never cost lives". And republicans are sooooo stupid and slimy that they stole that exact quote, and swapped out the name to promote the Benghazi lie today...

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    I do.... Zomg Bill Clinton (not Hillary) lied about getting a blow-job! The horror! Hence the famous anti-bush Jr. Quote: "Clinton's lies never cost lives". And republicans are sooooo stupid and slimy that they stole that exact quote, and swapped out the name to promote the Benghazi lie today...
    There was way more things than Clinton committing perjury and it involved Hillary too, you should research it sometime and educate yourself before you cast your vote

  9. #169
    When you start to lose parts of Fox News cheerleading section, you know you are in trouble


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Where's all the lawsuits for the business's that claim they can make your dick grow 4-6 inchs? That is a outright scam if you ask me. Real estate university? What did people honestly think they were going to learn other then being able to sign clients and make a sale? Real estate is 90% advertising and networking, that's it. There is no university, short of legally authorized class's that explain the law to you. Are you aware I can open a supermarket called bullshit university, and not have it actually be a university? I mean you basically just fucking repeated everything I already stated yet did not acknowledge that for profit collegiate business's do this shit everyday. Go ahead, call ITT tech, or you name it, ask them if your credits transfer. They won't, but guess what, it's not a real college and for all intensive purposes are just as much of a scam as Trump university. What is their to forgive? If you are a person who forked over money to enlarge your fucking dick, or take brash lessons in trump personality with a touch of real estate pizzazz who's really to blame? Your idea about respectable businessman, "actual university", and all that hyper care bear bullshit is actually handled by the board of realtors in your very own state and is essentially a 3 day crash course with a shitty test which you doll out hundreds of dollars for a license and a fucking lapel pin. In CT the class was like 300$, you pay some dues, and some other shit. That is real estate university.
    How amusing this is. I am not sure Trump would want you defending him in court. After all you basically showed the fraudulent nature of Trump's business, just missing the outrageous costs and high pressure sales methods used on vulnerable people. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    When you start to lose parts of Fox News cheerleading section, you know you are in trouble

    She has a botox face, it doesn't move at all :O

    But yeah, she went in on Trump, no wonder he is afraid of her.

    Trump would be a victim of his own libel laws if elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There was way more things than Clinton committing perjury and it involved Hillary too, you should research it sometime and educate yourself before you cast your vote
    He listed the only thing that resulted in any outcome involving persecution. White water is a conspiracy theory. Bombing Serbia in the immediate aftermath of Culumbine shooting, is a conspiracy from Ferenhiet 9/11. A movie that GOP used as justification for Citizens United, due to GOP claiming it was campaign driven against Bush. Which at the very least implies even GOP believes those accusations are bullshit.

    But, don't take my word for it. Here is how GOP described Clinton years:

    We meet at a remarkable time in the life of our country. Our powerful economy gives America a unique chance to confront persistent challenges. Our country, after an era of drift, must now set itself to important tasks and higher goals. The Republican Party has the vision and leadership to address these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    So is La Raza a terrorist group or what? Probably not because

    Not sure what the point is of your other arguments tbh, you aren't actually arguing that the case against Trump is made-up but more like that his opponents are trying to score points, which frankly does not undermine any argument against Trump Uni scam.

    Also since this has been going for a while (before he became a candidate) I'm not sure why this would be a political hit-job.
    But this "evidence" is still valid because these evil mean folks who are part of this vast anti-Trump conspiracy borrowed Obama's time machine and went back in time once Trump announced he was running for president and caused multiple different jurisdictions to investigate Trump's "university". The Texas investigation was in 2010. New York Case started in legal system in 2103.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    But this "evidence" is still valid because these evil mean folks who are part of this vast anti-Trump conspiracy borrowed Obama's time machine and went back in time once Trump announced he was running for president and caused multiple different jurisdictions to investigate Trump's "university". The Texas investigation was in 2010. New York Case started in legal system in 2103.
    Curse Obama and his Muslim - Socialist time machine!
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  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There was way more things than Clinton committing perjury and it involved Hillary too, you should research it sometime and educate yourself before you cast your vote
    Yeah, they were soon real that you cowardly can't list them knowing they're complete BS. Whatevs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So apparently today it was released that Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, dropped their investigation into Trump University in 2010 after Trump ended the Trump University organization in Texas. Then Trump quietly bribed him for $35,000 to Abbott's gubernatorial campaign for Texas Governor.
    http://www.twcnews.com/tx/austin/pol...WC_News_Austin

    Apparently he has done this in Florida too. He gave $25,000 to Florida AG Pam Bondi in 2013 and she quietly dropped the probe into the Fraud of Trump University. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...dca_story.html Was supposed to go to a "charity" instead went to a pro-Bondi group.

    Is this going to sway Trump voters? Nope. Here comes the handwaves.
    Still nothing in comparison to what hillary has done. She belongs in prison.

    I'm not saying its right, but out of our current options, I'll take trump.

    Plus, he's not the only guilty one here, how about the fucking corrupt ass people who actually took the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    He listed the only thing that resulted in any outcome involving persecution. White water is a conspiracy theory. Bombing Serbia in the immediate aftermath of Culumbine shooting, is a conspiracy from Ferenhiet 9/11. A movie that GOP used as justification for Citizens United, due to GOP claiming it was campaign driven against Bush. Which at the very least implies even GOP believes those accusations are bullshit.

    But, don't take my word for it. Here is how GOP described Clinton years:



    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25849
    Thank you! You put it more elegantly than I could... But then again the White Trash who vote for Dump don't care about facts, do they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    Still nothing in comparison to what hillary has done. She belongs in prison.
    Care to list the things she's done? Not things that you've been told she's done by her opposition, but actual things.
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  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    Still nothing in comparison to what hillary has done. She belongs in prison.

    I'm not saying its right, but out of our current options, I'll take trump.

    Plus, he's not the only guilty one here, how about the fucking corrupt ass people who actually took the money.
    MOB RULE!!! This one guy who probably has no political experience outside this forum knows better than the CIA, the FBI and the Secret Service combined! Guilty until proven innocent, or as the White Trash would translate as "she paid people off because I want her to be guilt regardless because my ego would need a band-aid otherwise"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Care to list the things she's done? Not things that you've been told she's done by her opposition, but actual things.
    She illegally hosted her email on a private server in her home.

    End of discussion. Thats treason. It also been proven that the server was "hacked" or "Intruded" by people who were not to have access.

    And dont even get me started on the american lives she lost in benghazi because she was too sleepy to do her fucking job.

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