so much qq about brown orcs in the movie yet no one notices there is no lordaeron

[Jibjub]

FIRST OF ALL, Warcraft lore is pretty terrible and convoluted.

SECOND OF ALL, this movie is attempting to be a summer blockbuster. Adhering to nerd lore that .01% of movie-goers are going to know / care about is just bad business.

THIRD OF ALL, why would you build a huge city ON THE WATER before having a harbor? In a world that makes sense, almost all port cities start precisely because they are on water. Are you telling me that the denizens of Azeroth discovered expert stonework to build castles before learning how to make wooden ships??? (See FIRST OF ALL)

FOURTH OF ALL, judging by these other comments in the thread ... you don't even know the lore yourself (I don't either but I also don't care nor will I be upset). This would be like me getting upset at the New York Yankees this weekend for not putting Babe Ruth in the line-up... OR, more apropos, get upset at the baseball Hall of Fame for inducting Babe Ruth as a Baltimore Oriole instead of a Washington National.

FIFTH OF ALL, purple monkey dishwasher.

[lopus]

you and others are not understanding how lordaeron is the main city yet it's not even mentioned even as a tiny rumour in any of the leaks and trailers instead they make stormwind out to be the only main city of humans when
stormwind is suppose to just be an outpost type city as in small sized.. like the current alliance mop city the panda shrine
there is not suppose to be any harbour or multiple districts yet and not suppose to have statues in the entrance to stormwind about characters that aren't even in the game lore yet
and..goldshire shouldn't even exist at all yet.. it's suppose to be built somewhere during warcraft 3 era or vanilla wow

they have copy pasted wow universe location and injected warcraft 1 lore as some form of illegal drug

Stormwind city was the only city mention in Warcraft 1 damn please inform your self.And Stormwind was not an out post of Lordaeron they were both separate kingdoms yes humans had 2 kingdoms, like dwarves used to have 3

[Gweenpin23]

OP, please don't post this vile trash when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Stormwind keep was indeed the object of the first war between the Orcs and Humans, or 'Warcraft 1 RTS' as you call it. I can't speak to the accuracy of the movie as compared to game lore because I haven't seen it yet but you are very far off base and should not be posting this nonsense as if it were fact. If you want a quick refresher of the history of the first war I recommend youtubing the mission prologues and epilogues from the Warcraft: Orcs and Humans game. If you can find a digital copy of the original game manual, that has a lot of good lore in it as well.

[lopus]

please read my fucking post properly
i did not say that stormwind should not exist at all
i said it shouldn't exist in the movie as the way they currently portrayed it as a large main human city when it's not that

I read the post and as the ONLY main city in Warcraft 1 it was the biggest city mention in Warcraft 1 lore it was not until Warcraft 2 that Lordearon was mention and that is the reason it should not be mention in the movie either because is based in WARCRAFT 1!! for all the stuff the movie got wrong you are complaining about one thing they got right

[Netherspark]

Literally every single word in the OP is incorrect.

have any of you actually played the damn games

You clearly have not.

[skannerz22]

The very first line of text in your post states: "stormwind shouldn't even exist"

yes i fixed the sentence to suit the people who don't speak english as their first langauge or have some disability with education people who do not know how to understand short sentences

[lopus]

you still don't understand how they're suppose to have lordaeron logos
stormwind logo did not exist untill after the fall of lordaeron in warcraft 3 THE FROZEN THRONE EXPANSION

have any of you actually played the damn games
or have you just been reading books this entire time
the books are not cannon they're just extra proffit for blizzard
the main true lore is what they build into the games

you are the one that has not played the original games or books(WoW books lore =/= Warcraft books lore) the way you talk it seem you only know from warcraft 3 forward.

[skannerz22]

Literally every single word in the OP is incorrect.

really?
then please explain this
it's not fan made

no harbour

this is where mediv met with the king of lordaeron to talk about the orcs and then later about the lich king
they did not meet in stormwind


uther with lordaeron logo not with stormwind logo


stormwind was an outpost not a main city which is why it's not on the shield but instead on the hammer representing stormwind is the military of lordaeron and lordaeron sheield is on the front of the weapons representing they are theshield that brings the weapons together as a set like they would as a nation
uther in the game has the lion symbol to represent how he is part of the stormwind military
but later when they were able to put better detail they gave him lordaeron logos in wow

[Zeek Daniels]

OP rants about things he clearly doesnt know. Maybe go back and replay Warcraft 1?

Anyway, Alot of choices in these movies is for WoW fans. Alot more people played WoW than played Warcraft 1. You want those people to be entertained. One of the problems with the marketing of this movie is that SOOO many people think this is a World of Warcraft movie and not a Warcraft 1 movie. So people are confused already. Might as well do alot of what people know than have World of Warcraft fans go into the movie and see a stormwind city that looks nothing like the game. Or a Dalaran that looks nothing like the game.

[Gambit5555]

yes i fixed the sentence to suit the people who don't speak english as their first langauge or have some disability with education people who do not know how to understand short sentences

You might want to go back and fix the rest of your post being that you are continuously incorrect. Lordarean was not part of Storm wind. There were seven human kingdoms at the time, Stormwind was the capital city of the nation of Azeroth. The city itself was completely razed at the end of the war, so the Stormwind we see isn't the same as the city in the game. Also the dwarves were not enemies of the humans during this period

[skannerz22]

You might want to go back and fix the rest of your post being that you are continuously incorrect. Lordarean was not part of Storm wind. There were seven human kingdoms at the time, Stormwind was the capital city of the nation of Azeroth. The city itself was completely razed at the end of the war, so the Stormwind we see isn't the same as the city in the game. Also the dwarves were not enemies of the humans during this period

you might want to take a look at the hero call boards and the harbour that exists in the movie which shouldn't exist before you start calling me as some bullshitter
stormwind was not razed in the movie.. khadgar leveling up was the finale they said

[Donald Hellscream]

really?
then please explain this
it's not fan made

no harbour

this is where mediv met with the king of lordaeron to talk about the orcs and then later about the lich king
they did not meet in stormwind


uther with lordaeron logo not with stormwind logo


stormwind was an outpost not a main city which is why it's not on the shield but instead on the hammer representing stormwind is the military of lordaeron and lordaeron sheield is on the front of the weapons representing they are theshield that brings the weapons together as a set like they would as a nation
uther in the game has the lion symbol to represent how he is part of the stormwind military
but later when they were able to put better detail they gave him lordaeron logos in wow

it was the seat of power of the kingdom of Azeroth.. The kingdom that later was renamed kingdom of stormwind.

[skannerz22]

OP rants about things he clearly doesnt know. Maybe go back and replay Warcraft 1?

Anyway, Alot of choices in these movies is for WoW fans. Alot more people played WoW than played Warcraft 1. You want those people to be entertained. One of the problems with the marketing of this movie is that SOOO many people think this is a World of Warcraft movie and not a Warcraft 1 movie. So people are confused already. Might as well do alot of what people know than have World of Warcraft fans go into the movie and see a stormwind city that looks nothing like the game. Or a Dalaran that looks nothing like the game.

maybe you should take a look at the fucking movie
the ending to the war is different
they have hero call boards
they have mailboxes
they have a harbour
these are things that should not exist yet

they are theming the movie based on world of warcraft cataclysm world
and injecting some but not all of warcraft lore
khadgar and mediv did not meet in stormwind they have always met in lordaeron the strong hold

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it was the seat of power of the kingdom of Azeroth.. The kingdom that later was renamed kingdom of stormwind.

and yet that is not in the movie..are you understanding yet
everyone else isn't understanding it
how lordaeron is nonexistant
stormwind doesn't exist how it's suppose to exist
and the harbour shouldn't exist at all yet..
neither should mail boxes, goldshire, heroes call boards
stormwind was not "razed" in the movie at the end..instead at the end of the war khadgar levels up to "simulate" how we level up in wow

[Donald Hellscream]

maybe you should take a look at the fucking movie
the ending to the war is different
they have hero call boards
they have mailboxes
they have a harbour
these are things that should not exist yet

they are theming the movie based on world of warcraft cataclysm world
and injecting some but not all of warcraft lore
khadgar and mediv did not meet in stormwind they have always met in lordaeron the strong hold

You can't claim mailboxes shouldn't exist.. How the fuck do you know that?
Also the hero's call boards are just freakin' easter eggs for gods sake man.

Also the movie is in an alternate timeline as I have mentioned time and again so of course it doesn't play out like the books or video game.. Jeez Louise.

[apples]

you might want to take a look at the hero call boards and the harbour that exists in the movie which shouldn't exist before you start calling me as some bullshitter
stormwind was not razed in the movie.. khadgar leveling up was the finale they said

so your gripe is that the movie isnt exactly like the game in every respect?

i assume youre being an idiot on purpose?

[Ealyssa]

Warcaft cinematic universe isn't the same as game universe.
Just like marvel CU isn't the same than their comics.

End thread.

[Deleted]

maybe you should take a look at the fucking movie
the ending to the war is different
they have hero call boards
they have mailboxes
they have a harbour
these are things that should not exist yet

they are theming the movie based on world of warcraft cataclysm world
and injecting some but not all of warcraft lore
khadgar and mediv did not meet in stormwind they have always met in lordaeron the strong hold

You're clowning. You're not clowning? I sense clowns.

Stormwind was independent kingdom during first war. There were 6 other INDEPENDENT kingdoms back then:

1. Lordaeron
2. Stormwind
3. Arathor
4. Stromgrade
5. Gilneas
6. Dalaran
7. Kul Tiras

Stormwind DID have harbor during first war, that's how refugees and young Varian escaped to Lordaeron.

Movie =/= game lore. It's like Game of Thrones of Warcraft. Show tells a slightly different version of the story based of the books.

[Dezmos]

First off the OP doesnt know crap about Warcraft lore or of whats canon... The city of Stormwind did exist in the game but it was called The Kingdom of Azeroth then and King Llane's castle was called "Stonewind Keep" (later renamed to Stormwind Keep) in Warcraft: Orcs and Humans and they're the only humans involved in the first war also yes Stormwind actually always had a harbor but in WoW it just wasn't implemented until the 3rd expansion there was even a locked gate leading to the harbor that had nothing behind it pre-wrath .. Lordaeron didn't come into the scene until Warcraft 2 Tides of Darkness during the 2nd war so no the movie based on the 1st war isn't set in Lordaeron for this reason if it was set in Lordaeron we would see heroes like Uther the Lightbringer and Tirion Fordring and the Alliance doesn't even exist yet it wasn't until the Tides of Darkness did everyone (Human Kingdoms, Elves, Dwarves and Gnomes) band together to stop the orcs. Also I have idea why the OP thinks dwarves and humans are enemies

[Gambit5555]

you might want to take a look at the hero call boards and the harbour that exists in the movie which shouldn't exist before you start calling me as some bullshitter
stormwind was not razed in the movie.. khadgar leveling up was the finale they said

You realize the movie is not the entire Warcraft storyline right? And that the city in the movie is before it was destroyed by orcs and rebuilt by the stonemasons guild. I'm calling you a bullshitter because you complain about that which you know nothing about

[ThrashMetalFtw]

Everything about this is just wrong on so many levels.

Stormwind was never part of Lordaeron. The Kingdom of Stormwind (called "of Azeroth" in WC1, later retconned), was an independent Kingdom consisting of all Humansettled land south of Blackrock Mountain.

It was never part of Lordaeron, and most certainly never a "small outpost". Where did you even get these ideas lol.


As for the pictures you linked above. The map is of Stormwind in Classic WoW, which is irrelevant, since the city was razed at the end of the 1st War and then rebuilt between the 2nd and 3rd Wars. Humans fled from Stormwind to Lordaeron with ships. Where do you think they got those? Do you really think a Capital located next to a fucking ocean wouldn't have a harbour?

And yes, they met in the Throne Room in Loradaeon, because that happened in WC3, and WC3 took place in Lordaeron. No big suprises here...

The next picture is not of Uther, it's fanart (aka unoffical), depicting an alternate timeline in which Arthas never turned evil. It's supposed to be Arthas as an old and wise king. And yes, he was from Lordaeron, so newsflash, he's going to have Lordaeron icons on his armour...

Again, Uther from WC3. Same story as above.


I find it amusing that your "proof" that Stormwind was somehow an outpost of Lordaeron (something I have NEVER heard anybody even think about before), is that characters based in Lordaeron during WC3, have Lordaeron icons/symbols on their armour.