2x AMD 480 vs 1x GTX 1080 3D Mark 11 scores

[DeltrusDisc]

GTX 1080 results with similar hardware
Obviously a single 480 was never going to beat a single 1080, price performance wise I'd say the 480 scrubs up quite well.

Still, a 9,000 point difference for graphics score is pretty massive. :P

And then this one takes the graphics score all the way to 32k... So around a 14,000 graphics score increase over 18,000... 78%. =|

[Asmekiel]

Which makes the 1080 a very bad purchase price/performance wise. A good 80%-90% faster than an RX480, for 3.5x the price. The 1080 should cost max €600, which still leaves a 50% premium for being the fastest card.

[Vash The Stampede]

Odd, why on earth would they keep the NDA in effect until release date, you'd think with them wanting to push the new cards so much for VR they'd want reviewers reviewing them/boosting sales.

Nvidia held the drivers from reviewers until a day or two before the 1080's release. Most likely Nvidia was busy tweaking drivers for the reviews. AMD is probably doing the same thing.

[DeltrusDisc]

Remember it JUST launched.

Prices need to be allowed to fall in line.

Anyone buying one right now, is, I'm sorry, a fool.

[Mythbredor]

Which makes the 1080 a very bad purchase price/performance wise. A good 80%-90% faster than an RX480, for 3.5x the price. The 1080 should cost max €600, which still leaves a 50% premium for being the fastest card.

Problem with the rx 480 is we don't have specs yet, we have rumors. And the 480 will show it's glory in crossfire which not all games support. But yes the point still stands if the rumored rx480 specs end up being true and crossfire is supported then... just wow.

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Remember it JUST launched.

Prices need to be allowed to fall in line.

Anyone buying one right now, is, I'm sorry, a fool.

True, prices are inflated right now launch hype gets a lot of people buying for these prices.

[Life-Binder]

all high end cards have bad p/p

you dont buy 1080 for the p/p, you buy it for the raw performance

people with money and/or high resolution/high refresh rate monitors dont care about p/p

same for cards like Fury, Fury X, future Vega

Nvidia held the drivers from reviewers until a day or two before the 1080's release

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1080 released for sale on 27-th May, 1080 NDA was lifted and reviews available - on May 17-th




PS SLI/CF are trash pure headache

[Vash The Stampede]

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1080 released for sale on 27-th May, 1080 NDA was lifted and reviews available - on May 17-th

PS SLI/CF are trash pure headache

Meant to say NDA release, for the benchmarks.

Remember it JUST launched.

Prices need to be allowed to fall in line.

Anyone buying one right now, is, I'm sorry, a fool.

This is just how the market works. MSRP is a joke. High end graphic cards always have this problem, because they figure people will buy them at inflated prices, and they're right. Even the RX 480 will be a higher price than $200, because they know that people are circle jerking over it. But this is more so the case for high end products like the 1070/1080 because that market is more willing to spend more. The mid to low end market is looking for bargain prices, and therefore will wait for the appropriate price.

I would wait for black friday or cyber money to buy new graphic cards. By that time, supplies shouldn’t be limited and causing inflated prices. Cause that's what's driving the 1080/1070's prices to inflate. That and the absurd amount of hype driven by Nvidia. Why you think Nvidia made the "Founders Edition"? They knew everyone else would drive up the price of their products, and they wanted to cash in. The MSRP is to show customers they aren't being dicks, even though "Founders Editon" shows otherwise. Leave it to Nvidia's marketing to spin something to sound positive.

I don't think this will be as big of an issue for the RX 480, as rumours suggest AMD is stock piling these graphic cards. The RX 480 isn't going to be a legendary myth like the 1080's, only seen by Ebay sellers.

[Turaska]

Still, a 9,000 point difference for graphics score is pretty massive. :P

And then this one takes the graphics score all the way to 32k... So around a 14,000 graphics score increase over 18,000... 78%. =|

Naturally, a single $230 480 was never going to compete with a $600-700 1080. The price/performance on a 480 still makes it a decent purchase though, especially if you're working on a strict budget, it'll likely run any game at ultra settings for awhile at least without issue. I'm curious how the 1070 performs now, rough guess would be in the 16000 and 24000 range.

Still curious what AMD meant when they said a 480 would out perform a 1080, not sure in what world that would be. Maybe on games that are heavily optimized for AMD cards, don't see it happening otherwise.

[Life-Binder]

they never said that

even in AMD optimized (Ashes, Hitman) 1080 still beats a Fury X and Fury X > 480


1070 is ~20% behind 1080 both in 3dmark and in games

[Turaska]

they never said that

even in AMD optimized (Ashes, Hitman) 1080 still beats a Fury X and Fury X > 480


1070 is ~20% behind 1080 both in 3dmark and in games

1070 seems like a more reasonable purchase then, how close to a 1080 could an overclocked 1070 get? must be pretty close.

[Life-Binder]

it can get closer to a stock 1080

but an OCed 1080 will still be 20% ahead of OCed 1070


they are almsot the same cards except 1070 has better p/p and 20% less raw power

[Turaska]

it can get closer to a stock 1080

but an OCed 1080 will still be 20% ahead of OCed 1070


they are almsot the same cards except 1070 has better p/p and 20% less raw power

Still, if you can more or less replicate a 1080 with a 1070, albeit it only a stock 1080, still a decent purchase given 1070's are only £350 or something compared to the £550-650 1080.

[Life-Binder]

well I personally need that extra 20% to run a 1440p 144/165 Hz monitor for the next 2 years until Volta drops, so I got the 1080


but yes 1070 is better value just like every X70 card has always been better value than X80

[Turaska]

well I personally need that extra 20% to run a 1440p 144/165 Hz monitor for the next 2 years until Volta drops, so I got the 1080


but yes 1070 is better value just like every X70 card has always been better value than X80

Guess I'll wait and see a few more benchmarks before I decide.

[Roidzilla]

it can get closer to a stock 1080

but an OCed 1080 will still be 20% ahead of OCed 1070


they are almsot the same cards except 1070 has better p/p and 20% less raw power

Current reviews of the top overclocked 1070 vs 1080 show only a 12% difference, 1080 is struggling and will continue to do so until voltage is unlocked.

[Life-Binder]

12% ?

no

1070 OCes the same as 1080


show me a bench of only 12% between 1070 and 1080

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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1070/24.html - performance charts show 20% of stock 1080 over stock 1070


1070 OC :
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1070/27.html

Maximum overclock of our sample is +469 MHz to the GPU's base clock, which increases max Boost from 1873 MHz to 2088 MHz (11% overclock), and 2330 MHz on the memory (16% overclock).
Maximum clocks seem similar to the GTX 1080 FE we previously reviewed.

Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 13.4%.

1080 OC:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1080/30.html

Maximum overclock of our sample is +453 MHz to the GPU's base clock, which increases max Boost from 1898 MHz to 2114 MHz (11% overclock), and 1450 MHz on the memory (16% overclock).

Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 12.8%.

[Evildeffy]

12% ?
no
1070 OCes the same as 1080
show me a bench of only 12% between 1070 and 1080
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1070/24.html - performance charts show 20% of stock 1080 over stock 1070
1070 OC :
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1070/27.html
1080 OC:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1080/30.html

Except what he was referring to is that the difference in the same overclock levels even from your own linked articles is between 12 - 14% difference between the max. overclocks.

His point stands... just because the 1070 has the same overclocking limitations as the 1080 does not mean the %-ile gain remains the same.
If voltage control is unlocked the 1080 has the better potential but it is being artificially limited right now.

Then again who am I talking to? You've not even answered the question that was asked of you.
You realize that justifying your own decision is completely pointless due to no-one here actually even for a second believing you're unbiased right?

[Life-Binder]

Except what he was referring to is that the difference in the same overclock levels even from your own linked articles is between 12 - 14% difference between the max. overclocks.

no its not

again show me benchmarks where theres is 12% difference between them or get out

[Evildeffy]

no its not

again show me benchmarks where theres is 12% difference between them or get out

Napkin math in the very links you posted.

Battlefield 3 @ 1440p FPS overclocked.
GTX 1080: 154,9 FPS
GTX 1070: 133,7 FPS

If we compare the 1070 to the 1080 being the performance index of 100% you get the following:
100 / 154,9 = 0,645578% per FPS point
0,645578 * 133,7 = 86,3137786%

So 100% - 86,3137786% = 13,6862214%

So basically the GTX is 13,69% (rounding up especially for you) faster @ 1440p with equal overclock levels, i.e. between 12 - 14% as earlier stated.
Now how about you answer MY earlier question or disappear from this board entirely which would make a lot of people happy.

[Life-Binder]

lol go back to school before you do any math, kid


stock results: (137,3 - 117,9) / 117,9 = 16,45%

OC results: (154,9 - 133,7) / 133,7 = 15.86%

barely any difference between stock vs OC, less than 1%


and thats for BF3 specifically, the average difference across all games in stock was ~20% as I linked

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