View Poll Results: How would YOU stop radical firearm events in America from occurring?

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  • I'd ban guns and force removal of them being sold/owned.

    39 30.71%
  • I'd force everyone to arm themselves and learn how to use a gun

    16 12.60%
  • I'd go to war with that country/individual

    2 1.57%
  • I'd leave it as it is

    12 9.45%
  • I'd remove that group of individual from the country

    8 6.30%
  • I'd let the state decide

    1 0.79%
  • I'd let the government decide what to do

    3 2.36%
  • I'd reinforce law enforcement in specific places.

    7 5.51%
  • I'd put in more security

    2 1.57%
  • I'd wear protective gear at all times.

    1 0.79%
  • OTHER

    36 28.35%
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  1. #41
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    Allow weapon possession only to people with a real weapong training : police/army active/veteran (honorable veterans, obviously) and sport shooter/hunter with X years of membership on a legally certified club/hunting federation.

    Automatic weapons are unallowed to civilan, except specific professions.

    Possession permit is tied with rules : being having a gun safe, full registration of every gun owned and others I may not think about.

    For guns allready in circulation : a buyback period of 1-2 years where every certified people/association and the state can buy the weapons in circulation.
    And after that and HEAVY PUNISHEMENT for any illegal possession (really heavy, from 30-50k to a 2-5 years jail depending on how clean your record is, specific punishement is up to the judge. Obviously won't punish the same 83yr granpa who forgot he had a hunting rifle and a 27yr who still has a gun for "reasons")
    You may have a "grace" period after the buyout one, where every people caught with a gun would simply see their guns ceased, their home searched, but nothing more, no arrest, no writing on their records.

    And carry for civilan is 100% illegal, except most specific situation. Some civil profession need a gun bank security guards, bodyguards, etc. will need torough examination and proof of knowledgeable usage. Illegal carry is automatic 5+ years jail time.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by jbtuck View Post
    rah rah self righteous bullshit righty.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...tolen/2432447/
    right there it says 190k stolen. its a couple of years old, it does nothing but show how largescale the problem is.. or are you claiming in 2 years, from 2013 to 2015 it went from 190,000+ guns stolen to under 10k? xD
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by triplesdsu View Post
    There are sentencing enhancements for committing crimes with guns. As you said they could get 25 years for a murder. This doesn't stop gangs at all. They're going to do what they do until they get caught and punished. Its why they like the "don't snitch" culture, it helps keep them free. Punishing normal citizens is just foolish.
    Gang members go in and out of of prison all the time. All prison does is act like a boot camp to harden them up
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  4. #44
    Shut shit I got it!!!!

    Get heavy hitters to back sex dolls. I'm talking SpaceX type backing. Give them complex AI and make them uber real.

    Give them out in exchange for guns. Get 95% of all guns. The last 5% will be easy to get now.

    I just fixed this issue.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by triplesdsu View Post
    There are sentencing enhancements for committing crimes with guns. As you said they could get 25 years for a murder. This doesn't stop gangs at all. They're going to do what they do until they get caught and punished. Its why they like the "don't snitch" culture, it helps keep them free. Punishing normal citizens is just foolish.

    Strike folks with 25+ years just for owning having possession of it will solve the problem even faster. drastic measure are needed to combat the gun violence we have

  6. #46
    I've got a few ideas though you probably are not going to like them.

    Require security/bouncers to maintain a CCL and qualify on a firing range every quarter. They would also have to maintain a high level of fitness and be well versed in combatives training.

    Monitor ALL electronic communication, send in drones to exterminate anyone that supports or is a member of terrorist organizations.

  7. #47
    We don't need more gun control. If there was at least one person at any of these events to fight back, the death toll would have been much lower. There is nothing that could have prevented his actions. Not FBI Investigations, Not a Terror watch list. Seriously, NOTHING. He was a licenced rent a cop. He could carry a weapon for his job. He worked for a Homeland Security contractor. He was squeaky clean. Anyway He could get the guns some how. Criminals always find a way. He could have bought them similarly as the San Bernadeno shooters did, Have someone else purchase them. Criminals always find a way. No gun, he could have blown himself up, attacked people with a blunt or bladed object.

    Gun Control doesn't work. To see this simply look at Chicago, or Washington D.C. Having some of the strictest gun control laws in the USA and they also have some of the highest amounts gun violence. Also France has very strict gun control laws, look what criminal Jihadists did there. They broke the law and left 137 people dead, 368 injured and thousands of people changed for the rest of their lives. No one wants to say that Mass Causality Events occur everywhere. The media will jump on it and say "This only happens in America." The data doesn't show that, these events are not just in the USA, it's everywhere. All across the world.

    In January 2016, There were at least 10 different MCEs in the USA. (Killing 20 and wounding 32 over 7 different states.)

    In January 2016, Across the world there were 97 different MCEs. (Too many killed and injured.)

    Look at other months and years. The stats will show you it happens every where.

    In America where does the most gun violence happen at? URL="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6018.pdf"]New Orleans, Detroit, Vegas, Miami, Baltimore, St. Louis, Richmond, Memphis, Washington D.C., Philly, Newark[/URL] What do all of these places have in common?

    Also, if you are worried about what kills people. Why are you going after Cars, Alcohol, Drugs(Medical and Recreational), Medical Malpractice, Obesity or other diseases that kill more people then gun violence?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by araine View Post
    Strike folks with 25+ years just for owning having possession of it will solve the problem even faster. drastic measure are needed to combat the gun violence we have
    This will work after my sex doll idea. If you have an illegal gun, you disappear. Period. Life = till you die. No parol. You don't exist anymore. GITMO sounds good.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by araine View Post
    Strike folks with 25+ years just for owning having possession of it will solve the problem even faster. drastic measure are needed to combat the gun violence we have
    The gun violence that has decreased by almost 50% in 25 years?
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  10. #50
    Even I as a European realize that ' taking away guns' is a stupid and uneducated opinion. Theres so many things the US can do, but they refuse to do it because they are blind and have other priorities.

  11. #51
    We already have a Gun control mega thread with 2000+ pages, do we really need another one?
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  12. #52
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    I love how every one skips over the fact that criminals would still be armed and our citizens would be completely defenseless. No matter what they do to remove firearms from the world there will always be black markets and ways for criminals to acquire them, if you don't see that you're delusional. You don't have to go far back in history to find a good example, like prohibition, yeah that worked great. People have been slaughtering innocents for ages with swords, rocks, catapults, arrows, spears, bombs, chemicals, literally anything you can think of, someone has been murdered by. I can guarantee if guns are banned and our citizens disarmed, we'll see terror far surpassing 911. So my question is what in actual fuck are you people thinking? Let's just invite the terrorists right into our homes and let them slit our throats, because that's what you guys want to do.
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidereal 13 View Post
    I love how every one skips over the fact that criminals would still be armed and our citizens would be completely defenseless. No matter what they do to remove firearms from the world there will always be black markets and ways for criminals to acquire them, if you don't see that you're delusional. You don't have to go far back in history to find a good example, like prohibition, yeah that worked great. People have been slaughtering innocents for ages with swords, rocks, catapults, arrows, spears, bombs, chemicals, literally anything you can think of, someone has been murdered by. So my question is what in actual fuck are you people thinking? Let's just invite the terrorists right into our homes and let them slit our throats, because that's what you guys want to do.
    If they were banned and all were confiscated, criminals would just make new ones
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  14. #54
    Mass murder and radical religion-driven terrorism don't make the best reasons for arguing in favor of gun control. As those things, unfortunately, would happen regardless of the legality and/or availability of civilian firearms.

    Take away guns, terrorist would just smuggle them in, buy them via the black market, or use their trademark 'BLOW EVERYTHING UP' strategy to kill innocent people.

    Likewise, crazy nutters whose endgame is to kill a bunch of people and be killed themselves because <insert crazy person reason> wouldn't be hindered at all by guns being totally banned. It is, ironically, cheaper and easier to acquire a firearm illegally than it is to purchase one the legit way. There's also plenty of bomb-making material in the average person's under-sink compartment, and a car can be used to great effect as a battering ram for splattering dozens of pedestrians at once. Where there's a murderous will, there's a way to kill lots of people in a hurry. No amount of bans or regulations can change that.
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    The gun violence that has decreased by almost 50% in 25 years?
    Yeah, whatever we're doing now appears to be working. I'd like to see licencing, conscription and mandatory training for firearms, but aside from that I think we're good.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    Gang members go in and out of of prison all the time. All prison does is act like a boot camp to harden them up
    obviously they arent sentenced to 25 years for just having a gun are they? you cant say we have tried this method either since we havnt and i can promise you it will work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Havik View Post
    Mass murder and radical religion-driven terrorism don't make the best reasons for arguing in favor of gun control. As those things, unfortunately, would happen regardless of the legality and/or availability of civilian firearms.

    Take away guns, terrorist would just smuggle them in, buy them via the black market, or use their trademark 'BLOW EVERYTHING UP' strategy to kill innocent people.

    Likewise, crazy nutters whose endgame is to kill a bunch of people and be killed themselves because <insert crazy person reason> wouldn't be hindered at all by guns being totally banned. It is, ironically, cheaper and easier to acquire a firearm illegally than it is to purchase one the legit way. There's also plenty of bomb-making material in the average person's under-sink compartment, and a car can be used to great effect as a battering ram for splattering dozens of pedestrians at once. Where there's a murderous will, there's a way to kill lots of people in a hurry. No amount of bans or regulations can change that.
    Completely on point, too bad people won't realize this until it's too late.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempguy View Post
    1: at least 3/5
    2; it isn't about them seeking out care. That is how it is set up now. It's about them being able to be identified, and handled effectively by professionals. The way it is set up now you have to pose an immediate danger , or self refer. Surely we can do better.
    So exactly who is going to be tasked with identifying who needs to have mental health care forced upon them?

    Upon what criteria will it be based?

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by araine View Post
    obviously they arent sentenced to 25 years for just having a gun are they? you cant say we have tried this method either since we havnt and i can promise you it will work
    For a felon being in posession of a firearm? yeah. Many get that length of a sentence for hold weed
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  20. #60
    We could start taking mental health more seriously. A man breaks his leg and everyone rushes him to the hospital. A man hears voices telling him to kill people and everyone backs away.
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