Labour MP stabbed and shot.

[Vanyali]

https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/st...65781984399361

This is getting really fucking crazy now, either people are making up shit or she was killed by a pirate.

That picture shows me she was killed by a banana :\

I'm gonna go with making shit up

[hyperhyve]

My how the tables have turned! With all of the Euros typing cuz murica and other idiot replies when something happens on our shore. Maybe you guys should work on banning your own guns (and knives it seems) so that acts of terrorism cant happen on your own doorstep! Save for "rogue" islamic terrorists shooting up concert halls, blowing up subways, and the like.

because in 'murica something like that can't happen, since all americans go to concert halls and the subway with automatic assault rifles. smdh

[nextormento]

That's disgustingly messed up.
Since Cameron was slated to visit, news coverage here is focusing on Gibraltar and the sovereign claim more than about the shooting. Which is also bizarre.
Fuck this shit. I'm done for today.

[Deleted]

Ahhh Thank you, I won't give my personal say on that amendment then to be on the safe side.

You're welcomed. It usually triggers a giant debate on the matter of guns versus no guns (think there's a thread in off-topic that has some 1000 pages only about that)
Forgat to say, no matter what your opinion you have on it now (I think it's obsolete honestly) it made sense when they made it because it was written with two things in mind:
-that regular citizens would have access to weapons in case the British Empire would attempt another invasion, thus fighting a guerilla like warfare and not falling under their leadership again (obviously this is not the case anymore, and if another nation attempts an invasion if USA's army can't protect them after how well they're funded I doubt some more people with guns could)
-that regular citizens would be able to overturn the leadership of the country if it moves away from democratic values (while originally a good idea, I doubt some people with guns could overthrow the government of the USA anymore if the USA deploys tanks, rockets and planes).
Still, it's quite a weird argument at times, since when the state wants to limit access to automatic rifles, the gun owners say "look, they want to overturn the Second Amendment, proof that we need guns to resist against a possible tyrannical government trying to overturn laws to control us".

There's a giant organization in the USA lobbying for gun owners, think it's called NRA, which further makes the gun situation in the USA remain as it is.

[Kalis]

https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/st...65781984399361

This is getting really fucking crazy now, either people are making up shit or she was killed by a pirate.

Flintlock pistol + Yorkshire = Dick Turpin

[Dextroden]

That's disgustingly messed up.
Since Cameron was slated to visit, news coverage here is focusing on Gibraltar and the sovereign claim more than about the shooting. Which is also bizarre.
Fuck this shit. I'm done for today.

What. You're surprised that enough time has passed for people to stop giving a shit?

I remember when kevlar backpack inserts being sold somewhere became more important than a bunch of kids being killed.

[Deleted]

Look at all the classy people using the fresh death of a british MP as an argument for the gun debate.
Go take a good hard look in the mirror. Disgusting people.

[Deleted]

That picture shows me she was killed by a banana :\

I'm gonna go with making shit up

Well does does look like an old flint lock but I have never heard of one that could fire 3 shots.



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Flintlock pistol + Yorkshire = Dick Turpin

Big Dick strikes again.

[Iphie]

Well does does look like an old flint lock but I have never heard of one that could fire 3 shots.

There have been a few flintlocks with multiple barrels and this one *could* maybe pass for it? http://www.forgottenweapons.com/lorenzoni/

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There have been a few flintlocks with multiple barrels and this one *could* maybe pass for it? http://www.forgottenweapons.com/lorenzoni/

That is a weapon a gardener from Yorkshire could only dream of, more likely he chopped down down an old bolt action.

[Hypasonic]

Damn I live in leeds #tooclosetohome

[Iphie]

That is a weapon a gardener from Yorkshire could only dream of, more likely he chopped down down an old bolt action.

I don't disagree with that sentiment Rich, I'm just stating that there's a few which could fit the bill. The chopped down bolt action sounds plausible.

[Deleted]

I don't disagree with that sentiment Rich, I'm just stating that there's a few which could fit the bill. The chopped down bolt action sounds plausible.

Really I would not believe anything at this point, most weapons either get labelled as a sniper rifle, assault rifle or "make some shit up based on the last movie you saw".

[Deleted]

It ties in rather conveniently to the governments current attempts to further restrict firearms based on police meddling.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-35615180

Martin Parker, lead forensic scientist for NABIS, said "a clear trend" for criminals to use antique weapons in crime went back to 2010, with ammunition being specially made for them.

Currently, old guns can be bought from specialist shops and online, with ammunition available on the black market.

I'm sure there are plenty of criminals supplying Victorian ammunition like pinfire rounds.

[Kalis]

It ties in rather conveniently to the governments current attempts to further restrict firearms based on police meddling.

So the Government had an MP murdered by Tommy Mair and got some random bloke called Hichem Ben-Abdullah to draw a shitty picture, all in order to get further firearms legislation enacted that few people in the UK would give a shit about?

[Deleted]

So the Government had an MP murdered by Tommy Mair and got some random bloke called Hichem Ben-Abdullah to draw a shitty picture, all in order to get further firearms legislation enacted that few people in the UK would give a shit about?

Black power weapons are serious business, a flint lock pistol has an effective range of 20m and a well trained and experienced user can put out 3 rounds a minute!

[Jessicka]

It ties in rather conveniently to the governments current attempts to further restrict firearms based on police meddling.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-35615180


I'm sure there are plenty of criminals supplying Victorian ammunition like pinfire rounds.

Well, when I think it was Birmingham Police tried out the US microphone system to pinpoint gunfire, they found it was pretty much useless precisely because the guns criminals use over here are old/home made/modified replicas, and therefore don't make the same (or any kind of uniform) characteristic sounds.

Either way, the guy had long-term links to the far right who've been given far too much airtime and pandering by the mainstream right in this EU referendum campaign. :/

[Deleted]

This is sick. Obviously media sensationalism and an extremely vicious political debate afffted this man.
This should make us think.

[Jessicka]

This is sick. Obviously media sensationalism and an extremely vicious political debate afffted this man.
This should make us think.

It should, but it won't. If he was an immigrant, the right would push it and blame all immigrants. If he was a Muslim, they'd blame all Muslims. Since he's not, he's just a crazy loner. Same old same old.

[DarkAmbient]

Edit. Wrong end of the stick grasped by me.