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Specifically moral judgements according to character, thinking etc. (neuropsychology.)
No poll, just curious about other people reasoning. Thanks.
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2016-06-25, 12:58 PM #1Bloodsail Admiral
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Is anything, that isn't a fact, debatable?
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2016-06-25, 12:59 PM #2Mechagnome
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even facts are debatable. ever heard of religion?
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2016-06-25, 01:01 PM #3The Undying
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No they're not.
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2016-06-25, 01:02 PM #4Mechagnome
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evolution? Originally Posted by Hubcap
my point is that religion makes fact debatable. so you didnt fix it you broke iteven facts are debatable. ever heard of science?
FTFY
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2016-06-25, 01:02 PM #5The Insane
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The only possible answer is "yes."
Last edited by Self Inflicted Wounds; 2016-06-25 at 01:10 PM.
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2016-06-25, 01:06 PM #6The Patient
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maybe sex ? like who doesnt like sex...
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2016-06-25, 01:10 PM #7The Lightbringer
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Yes. Anything that cannot be shown to be empirically true is up for debate. This includes things we consider 'common sense' like our morals. Morality is relative and based on society and culture. Originally Posted by meheez
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2016-06-25, 01:11 PM #8The Lightbringer
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Everything is debatable, and to challenge even the most established is needed in order to move us forward. Heck it is how science functions to begin with. Of course some things are more possible than others. Some things are rather meaningless to debate for the common man though, as they have far too limited knowledge to properly discuss it, so it makes more sense to simply regard the vast consensus of people who actually know stuff, as fact. Morality and such are purely subjective matters that should of course be discussed. Of course for a good discussion to take place, either side has to be open to changing their mindset and learn something new, and not be stuck in their current mindset/delusion. Hence why religion is often so hard to discuss.
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2016-06-25, 01:12 PM #9The Unstoppable Force
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What facts would prove there is no god? Originally Posted by Hubcap
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2016-06-25, 01:14 PM #10Titan
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You can just decide that reality isn't real, and just like that you have now dismissed all facts.
As for morality I very much do believe that there is a factual objective morality, which is basically the "Harm-principle".Last edited by Dezerte; 2016-06-25 at 01:16 PM.
"In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance
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2016-06-25, 01:16 PM #11DeletedWhen did evolution become a fact? Did I miss the memo? Originally Posted by Kyr
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2016-06-25, 01:16 PM #12Merely a Setback
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People debate facts every day, choosing not to believe in them for whatever reason. For example because you'd rather believe that a man came back from the dead...
People also don't know the difference between a theory that you or I might have, and a SCIENTIFIC theory.
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2016-06-25, 01:19 PM #13The Patient
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What we consider to be a fact could turn out to be wrong, wasn't the earth being flat a fact at one time?
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2016-06-25, 01:19 PM #14The Lightbringer
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It's always been a fact, we just didn't know it was a fact until recently. Originally Posted by Umchilli
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2016-06-25, 01:20 PM #15The Lightbringer
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Not the job of a skeptic to prove god doesn't exist, it's the reverse. Originally Posted by Ghostpanther
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Barret: It's a good thing we had those Phoenix Downs. Originally Posted by unholytestament
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2016-06-25, 01:20 PM #16The Unstoppable Force
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That would wildly depend on what your definition of what god is. Originally Posted by Ghostpanther
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2016-06-25, 01:23 PM #17The Lightbringer
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That's kind of a misrepresentation. There is a much higher standard for science nowadays than there was back when the earth being flat was a common belief. That said, they also don't call things facts nowadays unless they are as near to 100% positive about it as humanly possible. Originally Posted by ReaperOwnz
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2016-06-25, 01:26 PM #18The Undying
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Morality is an invention. No such thing actually exists as an inherent thing or state of being.
A fact is already indisputable. That is exactly what a fact is- indisputable. However, the actual validity of a supposed fact is what we as humans often are debating. OP question is logically faulty.
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2016-06-25, 01:28 PM #19The Unstoppable Force
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Why would I need to? To understand that you would need to understand the parable of the seed sower and the good and bad ground. But proving he does not exist is impossible when whatever facts you come up with can only deal with the physical world. But this is getting into a forbidden subject here. lol. So I will not say anymore about this here. Originally Posted by Blade Wolf
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2016-06-25, 01:31 PM #20Deleted
Problem is the people who think their opinion = fact when the statistics tell you otherwise.
Somehow those people always win the debate because the other party cant be arsed to discuss opinion vs fact.
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