BREXIT - leave or remain?

[Mayhem]

Oh, that was a brief visit in the real world for you. Hope you enjoyed it, see you next year?

You can always leave, that's what Article 50 is there for. The EU isn't preventing you from doing so, in fact right now the EU is pressuring you to follow the referendum sooner rather than later.

And yet you manage to twist it into "the EU being like NK, because you can never leave."

What gives?

See you have to understand despite the pound being in free fall and companies starting to leave the UK the EU are trying to save themselves by pressuring the UK.

Bad EU, Bad EU!

[Cyberowl]

Don't. Only like 30% of young voters actually voted. Next time less Facebook more real life?

There is a reason I said voters (!). :P

[Ravenblade]

That quote says "Until Britain actually sends article 50 call, we aren't going to do any talks".

...and Britain cannot send this call until they vote on it by parliament, so they have all time in the world...

They don't unless markets are irrelevant now.

Every market will be sinking. Crash has been long coming, big money are betting on downside movements, and Brexit is quite convenient scapegoat for it.

And pound correction is also not entirely bad thing (and has been long coming too).

Self-inflicted wounds are always a bad thing.

[Bethanie]

There are all kinds of provisions with the Lords, even the Monarchy, to step in and stop the madness if the commons goes crazy. It's been a few hundred years since anything like that has had to be invoked though, but the laws exist.

Rubbish. Neither the Monarch nor the House of Lords can overrule the House of Commons.

The last time that was tried, the House of Lords was abolished, and the Monarch had his head cut off.

The restoration of the Monarchy only happened because the House of Commons wanted and allowed it to happen, and it happened on Parliaments terms. You may want to look up the Bill of Rights 1689, and the various Parliament acts that severely limit the powers of the crown and House of Lords. There is a reason the UK is referred to as a crowned republic.

[caervek]

See you have to understand despite the pound being in free fall and companies starting to leave the UK the EU are trying to save themselves by pressuring the UK.

Bad EU, Bad EU!

The Euro's in trouble against the dollar too, I would expect it's more self preservation by the EU than an attack on the UK.

[dribbles]

You can always leave, that's what Article 50 is there for.
And yet you manage to twist it into "the EU being like NK, because you can never leave."

What a terribly bad piece of legislation though in that the populace instruct their politicians to invoke it, the politicians run for the hills, and the EU can't kick us out.

Give me some hope, restore my faith in democracy that there is a chance the EU can amend it and remove us instead, and are indeed not in fact the same as NK.

[Deleted]

I absolutely cannot imagine them sitting this out till November.

Things will surely look better by the end of July/August, but the damage of friday, today, the day after and the next weeks is unforeseeable. How long will the recovery from that take ?

[Deleted]

I meant the southern countries. Remember how little the Lira was worth?

That was a precise strategy, devalue the currency to increase exports and create internal demand, while at the same time stifling import due to the high exchanga rate.

[Slant]

What a terribly bad piece of legislation though in that the populace instruct their politicians to invoke it, the politicians run for the hills, and the EU can't kick us out.

Give me some hope, restore my faith in democracy that there is a chance the EU can amend it and remove us instead, and are indeed not in fact the same as NK.

The EU can't do that, really. And despite the current pressure, the EU has no interest in kicking the UK out. Which part of "Britain, don't leave us!" did you not understand?

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That was a precise strategy, devalue the currency to increase exports and create internal demand, while at the same time stifling import due to the high exchanga rate.

Worked out bloody well for the Italians, didn't it?

[Mayhem]

The Euro's in trouble against the dollar too, I would expect it's more self preservation by the EU than an attack on the UK.

That´s not entirely bad since the EU are a major export partner to the US. Of course it´s a two fold since the EU also imports quite the amount.

[dribbles]

The EU can't do that, really. And despite the current pressure, the EU has no interest in kicking the UK out. Which part of "Britain, don't leave us!" did you not understand?

So the British people vote to leave and the EU says no you are not leaving. Sounds like a dictatorship. Everything the Brexit side said is true.

[Mayhem]

So the British people vote to leave and the EU says no you are not leaving. Sounds like a dictatorship. Everything the Brexit side said is true.

No, the EU isn´t saying that, the EU is not making you do anything, it leaves everything up to you. How is that a dictatorship?

[Combatbutler]

So the British people vote to leave and the EU says no you are not leaving. Sounds like a dictatorship. Everything the Brexit side said is true.

Still backwards, the Uk says it is not leaving at the moment and keeps it sweet time before triggering the article, this is entirely on your politicians, the UK has to move. If you want to blame someone blame your political elite.

[Slant]

So the British people vote to leave and the EU says no you are not leaving. Sounds like a dictatorship. Everything the Brexit side said is true.

Now you're just being pathetic. Come on, you can do better shit stirring than that. Put some effort into it!

[Repefe]

So half of UK celebrates leaving EU, but apparently nobody in UK knows what or how or under what conditions to do it. Well done UK, well done.

[Slant]

So half of UK celebrates leaving EU, but apparently nobody in UK knows what or how or under what conditions to do it. Well done UK, well done.

I think this is just part of the infamous British humour. :P

[Noradin]

Scotland wanting another referendum but wants to stay as a EU member. I thought they wanted independence? *confused*

Staying in the EU is more important to them.

[Deleted]

I think this is just part of the infamous British humour. :P

Humor has been transfered due to lack of demand and rise of drama.

[Shalcker]

Not quite. Major businesses moving out of the UK and moving into the EU will be a short term pain for both, but a longterm gain for the rest of the EU, (and longterm heavily negative for the UK) and that is what is happening right now.

Let me paint contrarian long-term picture:
London City will suffer as result of pound correction due to their reliance on financial institutions, country outside of London will prosper (and they are the ones who mostly voted Leave - so they voted for their self-interest).

Long-term costs of labour in UK will drop as results of pound drop, thus local manufacturing jobs can return. Oversized financial sector will shrink and there will be exodus of millionaires (and no new ones) with prices of homes finally dropping to affordable levels driving domestic demand for new housing.

Pound will be down and it will stay down - and that's a good thing. UK trade deficit with EU (which was steadily rising) will finally improve as their imports drop as result of everything European becoming less affordable - which again will drive domestic production.

In turn, that drop of exports for EU will drive it toward recession as there are no alternative markets available to them.

[Noradin]

er, yes. youre going to have to wait until WERE ready to tell YOU what when we are going to go.
its not your decision, its OURS. now run along & be patient, theres a good little european.

Really desperate for attention are you?

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But i thought you wanted to leave this tyrannical evil cult?
Or is it so that you don't actually want to leave, because none of you have any plans for how a post brexit solution would look?

No, they just want the attention.