Justice Served: Pro Gamer Daniel Zeitz's Murderer Gets 40 Year Prison Term

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I made some quick edits to the OP so we can get the thread back on track now.

[Mad_Murdock]

Are you been fucking serious here I can't tell

That makes me really sad. I guess I'm just not doing it right.

As you noted, the statement I quoted is common sense across the board. Why would anyone need to say "gamers, MMO or otherwise" in itself seems like fear mongering. So I channeled a little main steam media sensationalism and made it an attack on gamers

[Themius]

Thats not the reason they are judged as adults. I advice you read your own country law to understand why we try minor as adults in many cases when it comes to murders, rapes and other important crimes. What you think of it does not matter, its what we do.

I am saying the entire system is stupid. Children never become adults because a crime has been committed. A 4 year old killing someone doesn't make them 18.

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At 16 people shouldn't get less penalty when they commit crime, they know what they are doing at that age

Why shouldn't they be treated as a minor, since they are literally a minor.

[Hana Song]

Why shouldn't they be treated as a minor, since they are literally a minor.

I don't care about being a minor, being a minor shouldn't give you less penalties automatically, at 16 you know what you are doing

[Themius]

I don't care about being a minor, being a minor shouldn't give you less penalties automatically, at 16 you know what you are doing

No at 16 you don't, it's why 15-16 ear olds do some very very stupid things after murders.

[Lumineus]

40 years isn't justice for a 1st degree murder.

That's because it's second-degree (opportunistic murder in the process of committing another crime).

[Al Gorefiend]

No at 16 you don't, it's why 15-16 ear olds do some very very stupid things after murders.

Bitch already had a year old baby when she was a 16 year old girl. Whatever plea she can make as being an innocent little minor is bullshit.

Plus, you say she doesn't have a fully developed brain because she is under 18, as if trash like this would ever develop a brain to begin with.

[Hana Song]

No at 16 you don't, it's why 15-16 ear olds do some very very stupid things after murders.

Yes you do at 16, I remember what being 16 is like, that's not long ago

[Halicia]

I don't care about being a minor, being a minor shouldn't give you less penalties automatically, at 16 you know what you are doing

Depends on the person and the circumstances.

With a different person in different circumstances, I could see leniency...

Not in this case though. She showed a total disregard not only to her victim, but to her own child and boyfriend.

[Mormolyce]

Anyone bring up a handgun issue in the U.S. yet?

Yep, that's why you need actual gun control rather than these watered-down long gun restrictions.

Of course there are two distinct issues at play here: the US's very high overall homicide rate, mostly the guns involved there are cheapo handguns, and the US's frequent mass shootings, which often employ semi-auto rifles and the like. You need a solution for both.

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No at 16 you don't, it's why 15-16 ear olds do some very very stupid things after murders.

And during the murder. Like committing murder.

A lot of criminals commit stupid crimes because they're irresponsible idiots who grew up around crime and aren't thinking of the consequences of their actions. Give those people easy access to guns and boom, retarded homicides they get easily caught for committing.

Most criminals aren't Moriarty, they're some idiot who had a gun and wasn't thinking. Probably poor.

[artemishunter1]

Too easy for him. Better punishment is rotting in jail for 40 years instead of the instant release of death. Death is no punishment, it is a reward.

but it is not equal. Justice is parity.

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No at 16 you don't, it's why 15-16 ear olds do some very very stupid things after murders.

yes, you do. Are you genuinely saying a 16 years old does not know murder is wrong. that he should not commit crime. They may be impulsive, but they do know, just do not care

[Northy]

but it is not equal. Justice is parity.

The death isn't the issue, it's the suffering beforehand. Will the government match the suffering upon the perpetrator with the same voracity with which the perpetrator forced the victim to suffer? A simple lethal injection is too kind and painless, but that is all that will ever be done in this society, which is probably a good thing given the fallibility of our justice system (we can never be 100% certain of guilt). As such, decades in prison is a better punishment.

[kail]

I mean, good I guess? The murderers are going away for a long time. Feel pity for their kid though.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I mean, good I guess? The murderers are going away for a long time. Feel pity for their kid though.

I mean if it's young it might have a chance to find an adoptive family that ain't shit? I have serious doubts that anything good would have ever come out of this situation.

[kail]

I mean if it's young it might have a chance to find an adoptive family that ain't shit? I have serious doubts that anything good would have ever come out of this situation.

Oh I just feel for those with criminal parents. They are either raised by them or doomed to be stuck on foster homes.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Oh I just feel for those with criminal parents. They are either raised by them or doomed to be stuck on foster homes.

Well, usually people say that very young kids have it considerably easier in this regard, though I don't know how true that is for the US (that's where that happened, right?).

[Themius]

Bitch already had a year old baby when she was a 16 year old girl. Whatever plea she can make as being an innocent little minor is bullshit.

Plus, you say she doesn't have a fully developed brain because she is under 18, as if trash like this would ever develop a brain to begin with.

She had a child.. and she was behaving like this... she was a troubled child that needed help.

Yes you do at 16, I remember what being 16 is like, that's not long ago

I am talking about what they do "after" having killed. Their actions are often very very very stupid.

but it is not equal. Justice is parity.

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yes, you do. Are you genuinely saying a 16 years old does not know murder is wrong. that he should not commit crime. They may be impulsive, but they do know, just do not care

Knowing not to commit crime is one thing, what I am saying is that they fail to think out consequences.