BREAKING: Military coup in Turkey in progress! Tanks on the street, police disarmed.

[Deleted]

Rumors of Erdogan being arrested and taken to a Naval base.

[Rend Blackhand]

The last thing we need now is a Turkish civil war right on Europe's doorstep.

[Deleted]

Positives - No more Erdogan
Negatives - No more Erdogan

Either way good luck to the people of Turkey.

The risk is that the coup fail, then Erdogan will declear permanent martial law, and gets rid of annoying factors like free and fair elections.

If the coup succeed, then the military will declar martial law, and maybe they get rid of annoying factors like free and fair elections becuse the peopel might vote for a fundamentalist again.

[Deleted]

Except it doesn't make Turkey unstable.

A military coup doesnt make the country unstable?

[Skroe]

No it isn't. The Turkish people are descended from people who migrated from the area of Mongolia, they have no European roots.

And Modern European peoples descended from peoples of central Asian origins that migrated into Europe and largely slaughtered everybody who was there already, over the past 2000 years. Or Russians for that matter. Russians, like everybody else, are mutts. You have slavic blood, nordic blood, central asian blood, germanic blood.

Or do you think modern Italians (for example) have predominantly Roman blood in them?

The history of the human race is migrating and killing people in the lands we migrate. To cut Turkey off because it got there last is to be exceedingly arbitrary with history. After all, we call Greece European, but how much of Greece History was sailing across the Aegean and colonizing the Anatolia? And Istanbul is Constantinople, the real capital of the Roman Empire for most of what we think of as the Roman Empire (and not the Roman Republic).

The turks are very different from Slavic Europe, Germanic Europe, Anglo-Saxon Europe, "Romantic Europe" and Nordic Europe. But they're every bit Europe still, and their history predominently is defined by their interactions with Europe over the last 700 years.

[JohnBrown1917]

Turkey is European. Europe doesn't have to accept that, but historically it is.

Anatolia is in Asia.

[Auxora]

Per CNN:

"The joint US-Turkish Military Base at Incirlik, located in Adana, and other outlying bases have gone to "Force Protection Condition Delta." According to U.S. military documents, Force Protection Condition DELTA dictates all missions halt except base security."

Kind of scary considering Incirlik is pretty critical as far as bases go, having known people who have served there.

[Deleted]

Also: Reports Erdogan has been arrested.

There are so many reports about Erdogan that until he appears/his shown on TV, I won't believe.

[Acidbaron]

Great job another attempt to create chaos in a part of the world that alrdy is burning.
Maybe its time for me to pack my bags and leave EU for Canada before its to late because the crazy/sick ppl are getting closer and closer.

If history is our teacher we can go out that this is a good thing. Unless you liked Erdogan his politics and policies. The Military actually steps in to protect democracy and the division of 'church and state'.

[Deleted]

Who will grant him exile though? Russia surely won't, Germany and by extension the EU neither, after what he pulled with those 2.
Venezuela maybe? LOL

I don't think anyone would even consider fleeing there LOL

[Deleted]

A military coup doesnt make the country unstable?

Not when it's even part of the constitution.

[Skroe]

Looks like they're the good guys then.

Without derailing the thread, I detest Trump, but for Obama, it would be poetic justice. He personally deserves to see that happen... to watch on as the country rejects him in a very vicious and personal way. Unfortunately the country doesn't deserve four years of Trump that would follow.

[Tennis]

This is never good news.
This means economic instability and insecurity. These are perfect breeding ground for dangerous stuff.

This government was elected democratically.

[Vanyali]

For gods sake do you even have any idea about Turkey?

Do you realize what happens when banks start to topple? calling it just "economic instability that will disappear" is vastly naive.

[klogaroth]

A military coup doesnt make the country unstable?

If it's done well it doesn't have to be all that disruptive. Compared to say, a civil war.

If it's properly planned it could be about as disruptive as brexit. Maybe less disruptive. Although people have already died as part of this in Turkey. So outside of the context of disrupting the running of the country it's clearly very different.

[Deleted]

This is never good news.
This means economic instability and insecurity. These are perfect breeding ground for dangerous stuff.

long term solution.

This is good news for everyone.

Instability is bad, but turkey is strong and can withstand a short term instability when in the end they are clearly better off without Erdogan.

[Skroe]

Istanbul is quite different from the East, if you phrased it as "Istanbul is European", I think almost everyone would agree with that position - but by the time you're on the border of Iran, the difference between Iran/Turkey there is indistinguishable, and somehow you're now a long way from Europe: Turkey is a spectrum.

That's pretty fair.

[Deleted]

For gods sake do you even have any idea about Turkey?

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Not in this case.

erm... dude... Seriously... this is not really that important but a bank run, with political instability and increased security threats dont really make the country safe for investments.

[bufferunderrun]

another fine mess at the door of europe

[Acidbaron]

This government was elected democratically.

This has been called into question by observers during the last election, in case you didn't know that. Quite a few serious question marks were raised, considering it was the second round that got him elected again.