When do you think incest will become legal in the West?

[Mic_128]

This isn't what consent means, lol. What you described is rape.

I very much agree. But I'm willing to bed they'll be people who'll gladly try and argue it isn't. Especially those that have molded their child to expect to be their parents partner when they're of age. Especially if they're also home-schooled to boot, so they can't learn otherwise.

How could someone with a religious ideals be pro incest?

The same way they can be anti-gay yet still molest alter-boys.

[TheDestinatus]

Men/women so hard to find amongst all the pan/homo/furry sexuals. Better fuck my sister/brother/mother/father. No way I could build a genuine relationship with one of the other 3.5 billion members of the opposite sex on the planet. Hurrrrrrrr.

[Theodarzna]

human life starting at conception is a religious idea and not a very scientific one. How could someone with a religious ideals be pro incest?

How is it not scientific? If anything it's the most route scientific answer, and I am not pro-life by the way.

[Deleted]

Hopefully never.

[TheDestinatus]

You could change only a few words and you'd have the same argument people use against same-sex marriage.

Not really, if you accept the implication that homosexuality is predetermined than its just a part of life. Fucking your family isn't required and has proven side affects, nature + history has proven time and time again that its wrong. But you know, "being liberal" right, same argument as people who think drugs that affect your ability to process data correctly should be legalised. When someone kills someone while under the affects of drugs or alcohol its just life right?

Wouldn't it just be easier to admit you don't give a shit about anyone but your own wants than to pretend there is a moral imperative to make things legal that quite clearing don't support the greater good.

[Lockndrop]

I very much agree. But I'm willing to bed they'll be people who'll gladly try and argue it isn't. Especially those that have molded their child to expect to be their parents partner when they're of age. Especially if they're also home-schooled to boot, so they can't learn otherwise.


The same way they can be anti-gay yet still molest alter-boys.

that pretty much blows my mind too. then again "god forgives all" -_-

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How is it not scientific? If anything it's the most route scientific answer, and I am not pro-life by the way.

that really depends on the definition of life being used. some argue living on life support is not living. Before the middle of the second trimester the same could be said for a fetus which is the argument for many abortion advocates.

[TheDestinatus]

that pretty much blows my mind too. then again "god forgives all" -_-

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that really depends on the definition of life being used. some argue living on life support is living. Before the middle of the second trimester the same could be said for a fetus which is the argument for many abortion advocates.

You know that saying is dependant on true repentance right? Its not just a case of going to a church and confessing your sins and suddenly everything is better. Have you ever read the bible, god (jehovah/yahweh) is a different entity than Jesus. God laid out laws and said follow them or die, look at all the times he killed his own creations from start to finish, the entire book of revelation is about god taking vengeance against the fallen angels and humans who sided with them. Jesus preached forgiveness as a process to improving yourself, human life to god would be of equal value to that of all the people he drowned in the flood, burnt with fire, swallowed with earthquakes, condemned to death for not obeying him and on and on.

If you believe that sort of thing.

[Lockndrop]

You know that saying is dependant on true repentance right? Its not just a case of going to a church and confessing your sins and suddenly everything is better. Have you ever read the bible, god (jehovah/yahweh) is a different entity than Jesus. God laid out laws and said follow them or die, look at all the times he killed his own creations from start to finish, the entire book of revelation is about god taking vengeance against the fallen angels and humans who sided with them. Jesus preached forgiveness as a process to improving yourself, human life to god would be of equal value to that of all the people he drowned in the flood, burnt with fire, swallowed with earthquakes, condemned to death for not obeying him and on and on.

If you believe that sort of thing.

oh dude I know I was raised roman catholic I was just giving the simple explanation and mocking it because there's no way a man of the cloth could be truly sorry of abusing a child but this is a bit off topic lol

[TheDestinatus]

oh dude I know I was raised roman catholic I was just giving the simple explanation and mocking it because there's no way a man of the cloth could be truly sorry of abusing a child but this is a bit off topic lol

Mocking it doesn't really do anything but because its actually mocking a false belief. Not taking a shot at you anyway, when it comes to the child abuse at the hands of the church you really have to wonder how fucked up in the head those guys must be that you would choose to abuse a kid instead of just change faith so you can get married. No way you can say you stay Catholic because its the right religion and than fuck and abuse kids to get off as if you get a free pass. Than again, they think Jesus and god are the same entity, so when Jesus was about to be killed he went and prayed to himself to forgive himself. Morons, morons everywhere. Offtopic rant over.

[TheDestinatus]

Yes really.
Drugs and alcohol have nothing to do with this.
Or perhaps they do.. It's just another thing the government should interfere with as little as possible.

This has nothing to do with my wants.
This is about the government banning things because some old people think it's wrong.

They don't think they know, do you want to know how they know... ready for it... because they've been alive longer than you. They have more experience than you do and that is why the majority of people get more conservative as they get older because they realise as time goes on that they need to put limits on the destruction caused by the young idiots of the world. If decisions were in the hands of the young the world would be like Lord of the Flies, anything goes as long as its the way you want it and than you just start killing people off when you can't hold the tantrum in any longer.

[TheDestinatus]

What a bullshit argument.
They've been alive longer, that means their brain has also deteriorated

Do you know why people are conservative when they are older?
It's the exact same reason why they are so progressive when they are younger.
They want society to be exactly like they want it to be.
That means that in their youth they have to fight to change it to what they want, and in their old age they have to fight to keep what they have created.

There's also a research that actually shows conservatives have a lower IQ.

I have to disregard everything you've said sorry, I read a science paper that suggested that the Dutch have no respect for the wisdom of age so your opinion is just a cultural one.

[thilicen]

Is it illegal? I mean, obviously marriage is, but relations between two consenting adults?

[Kraenen]

There's also a research that actually shows conservatives have a lower IQ.

Wait I thought IQ tests were culturally biased?

[derpkitteh]

Nope.. its all about informed consent. If it can be given, it should be legal, if not, it shouldnt be. And animals and children can never give that as even if they agree, they dont understand the consequences.

animals can give it. you bend over for a dog, it's gonna go ham on your ass. if it didn't want to do it, it wouldn't. if you tried to make it, it would likely bite you.

same with a horse, if it allows you to live, it didn't say no.

[zenkai]

What a bullshit argument.
They've been alive longer, that means their brain has also deteriorated

Do you know why people are conservative when they are older?
It's the exact same reason why they are so progressive when they are younger.
They want society to be exactly like they want it to be.
That means that in their youth they have to fight to change it to what they want, and in their old age they have to fight to keep what they have created.

There's also a research that actually shows conservatives have a lower IQ.

You must be a conservative if you believe what you just wrote

[Shadowferal]

It's immoral because it's immoral...

Congrats, incest will get legalized if that's your only case against it.

Well, congrats...your argument supports other shit like necrophilia...which I should wonder if a few people here are already into.

[Deleted]

Legal or illegal i dont know nor do i care much about it. I just think its weird that theres such a big taboo on the subject. At the same time i think incest is one of the most searched for porn subjects, so I guess its not as rare as people like to think. Not saying the people in those videos are actually related, but the theme is popular enough that people like to watch it.

[derpkitteh]

Well, congrats...your argument supports other shit like necrophilia...which I should wonder if a few people here are already into.

i do support consenting necrophilia. like, you sign papers with your will stating whether or not you want your corpse to be fucked. it's weird as hell, but i definitely support it being legal.

[Shadowferal]

Legal or illegal i dont know nor do i care much about it. I just think its weird that theres such a big taboo on the subject. At the same time i think incest is one of the most searched for porn subjects, so I guess its not as rare as people like to think. Not saying the people in those videos are actually related, but the theme is popular enough that people like to watch it.

So is those "underaged" (that are using actors that are of age) "Barely legal" shall we say?
And Frith help anyone getting caught with the genuine article.

i do support consenting necrophilia. like, you sign papers with your will stating whether or not you want your corpse to be fucked. it's weird as hell, but i definitely support it being legal.

Sure you do.

Make it public.

[derpkitteh]

Sure you do.

Make it public.

if i were an official, i'd try to draft legislation for it. but i am not, so it doesn't really matter if some random chick goes out and screams she's for legalizing it.