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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by l33t View Post
    Why? To create a false pride for people who are such a nobodies in the real life that they have to rely on in-game unobtainable items to cherish their pride, aka special snowflake syndrome people.
    Can taste the bitterness in your post.

    OT: They're taking it out because it's no longer relevant and neither is the item that it created. The fact that the item in question was so accessible during the current xpac means that anyone who wanted it, has it, or at this point is very close to having it. There's no need to keep the reward in the game after that.

    That being said, i do agree that keeping the story in somehow would be awesome. I did like the MoP quest line (didn't much care for the cloak as a reward, or the ring - i'm not a HUGE fan of everyone getting everything for nothing- just my own preference of course).

  2. #22
    I wouldn't mind the quests sticking around but with the raid grinds taken out. I mean who at this point wants to grind that shit from MoP raids and next expansion grind them from WoD ones. Just make the end reward an epic that's pretty good for the level. Then just have some text at the bottom that's states "it's expected orange glow has faded and this is what remains". Solves most everything. People get to see the lore and a great quest line without the time grind parts. Blizzard still gets to provide people that played then something special and unique with the legendary item.

    Seems like an ok comprimse. Which is why I know most people will hate it. All me or bust.. I know.. I know

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    I'd very much like to see the quest chain stay there. With a reduced raid material requirement, maybe outright remove those parts, and then make the end quest reward a different ring.

    Edit: I see Yggdrasil above just explained my thoughts better than me!

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    Yes, it's an incentive to do the content while it's current.
    Yea, doing Skyreach normal and Highmaul/Forge LFR on ilvl700 is very current and entertaining, indeed.

    But there is also a technical reason. The more content you have, the more you must test and maintain. They might break or be exploited otherwise.
    For some reason I guess Blizz can even break "Hello World!" program.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by StaeleAilar View Post
    OT: They're taking it out because it's no longer relevant and neither is the item that it created. The fact that the item in question was so accessible during the current xpac means that anyone who wanted it, has it, or at this point is very close to having it. There's no need to keep the reward in the game after that.
    Nobody cares about the reward, but removing quests is idiotic. I totally agree with Yggdrassil's post up there. But, sadly, modern Blizzard's motto is "pretend we are doing the work, instead of actually doing it", so its not realistic to think that Blizzard will pour effort into old content for a bunch of players.

    Quote Originally Posted by StaeleAilar View Post
    That being said, i do agree that keeping the story in somehow would be awesome. I did like the MoP quest line (didn't much care for the cloak as a reward, or the ring - i'm not a HUGE fan of everyone getting everything for nothing- just my own preference of course).
    I knew right from the start of your post that you're one of dem special snowflakes. Well, let me surprise you: people did not get "everything" for doing "nothing". People get their expansion key item by actually playing the game - instead of being guildmaster's/raid officer's sex partner. Now, one could argue that mythic players shit gold turds and their gameplay is oh-so-different from others, but in reality they kill same pixels and press same buttons. Sorry to burst through your (not-so-special) bubble.
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  6. #26
    As much as I don't care if other people are going back to previous expansions and getting these special items/transmogs, I must say it does give it a special feeling, because almost every single aspect of the game is basicly "stuck-in-time theme-park" like. It does feel nice to have some things that actually feel like something that "happened", as essential part of that expansion only, with some sense of timeline (not talking just about legendary quests either, but really any timed quests or events, from pre-patch events, to legendary quests, to patch 5.3-like quests/events.

    Of course everyone has a different taste and way to enjoy things, but for me it does make a difference in making questing feel more like a living MMORPG world I "need" to experience while current/stuff's happening, and less like a singleplayer game I can just go back to and finish 10 years later.

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    for everyone defending it saying "its not current so it doesn't matter" can't wait till they remove every item in the game that isn't 110 and ilevel 1400
    edit : will be fun leveling from level 1 to 110 naked
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    I'm absolutely perfectly ok with it being this way. Even more so since the MoP cloak is now transmogable. I think it has gone rather unnoticed so far but I expect entitlement to surface soon.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Serissa View Post
    Yea, doing Skyreach normal and Highmaul/Forge LFR on ilvl700 is very current and entertaining, indeed.



    For some reason I guess Blizz can even break "Hello World!" program.
    It was current when the stages were new. Also catch up mechanics were put in place when they were no longer current.

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    tbh I would like to see those quests return. Not for the legendary but for the questline itself. Which was pretty cool in places.

    With removed Title/Rewards. Just if someone wants to see the voiceacting and so on. Kind of like the Green Fire Quest in MoP.

  11. #31
    The ring questline was pretty shit. The pandaria one was good though and it's a shame they removed it. People should be able to experience that story. Especially since they have no issue with people facerolling through old raids and getting Warglaives and Shadowmournes.

  12. #32
    Setting a expansion-limit to these Items such as the Cape and Ring make players who actualy put in the time and effort much more valuable and worth while. Very unfair for a player who spent most of the expanison working on the Cape/Ring just for other players who can just steamroll the old content for these items.
    Its the whole term that if everyone has it, no one is special. If everyone can get these items, then it has very little value.

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    the ring elitist? im not sure how you played this game this expansion but thats clearly the wrong word youre using
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Serissa View Post
    Yea, doing Skyreach normal and Highmaul/Forge LFR on ilvl700 is very current and entertaining, indeed.
    Same expansion = current content. It ties in with the story down the line.
    Mother pus bucket!

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Decisive The Hallowed View Post
    Setting a expansion-limit to these Items such as the Cape and Ring make players who actualy put in the time and effort much more valuable and worth while. Very unfair for a player who spent most of the expanison working on the Cape/Ring just for other players who can just steamroll the old content for these items.
    Its the whole term that if everyone has it, no one is special. If everyone can get these items, then it has very little value.
    This is such bullshit.

    If "if everyone had it" was the mantra it'd be the old style of doing legendaries and not the "Can do LFR to grind it out" Legendary.

    Acessability wasn't the reason it was like this. It was meant to be had by all or at least by a grand majority of people.

    Legendary Prestige means jack and all once an expansion is over. If i go out and whip out my Shadowmourne the most I'll get is a "Oh neat" and no one else will care. Funilyl enough, you can still go and do Shadowmourne.

    If anything the ring and the cape are the odd ones out in that you cannot get them at all anymore becaues the means to do them were taken out. The only other legendary to get this treatment was Atiesh and that's only because the ENTIRE RAID it was meant to be done for was taken out.

    More than that-Particularly in Warlords-entire story beats get removed along with it. Freeing Garona, Cordana's corruption, Gul'dan converting the remaining Warlords. If you thought WoD was a husk of an expansion now it's gonna even be worse with this gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decisive The Hallowed View Post
    Setting a expansion-limit to these Items such as the Cape and Ring make players who actualy put in the time and effort much more valuable and worth while. Very unfair for a player who spent most of the expanison working on the Cape/Ring just for other players who can just steamroll the old content for these items.
    Its the whole term that if everyone has it, no one is special. If everyone can get these items, then it has very little value.
    I am sorry but i could not disagree more.
    I did the Legendary cape in MOP, and the only reward i got from that was the boost of power it gave to my char for doing Pandaria raids, other than that, i find no reward in that.
    I am totally ok if someone who starts in Legion, does the quest, get the cape, achievements, etc.
    Not that i understand why would anyone trouble himself with doing that quest chain, now that the rewards are worthless IMO, but that is a different matter.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by l33t View Post
    Why? To create a false pride for people who are such a nobodies in the real life that they have to rely on in-game unobtainable items to cherish their pride, aka special snowflake syndrome people.
    You know what's far worse?

    People in denial who bitch about removing content because they want to feel special too

    You and the snowflakes are two sides of he same coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikazz View Post
    its good to make things prestigous so you can see who has slugged it out and put in the most effort in the game.

    kind of defeatws the purpose of playing the current content if you can go back 3-4 expacs later and get the same rewards that people strived for while it was current.

    removing things from the game also makes them more valuable at the time, and kind of drags people back into the game to achieve them.
    I disagree. While the cloak can be displayed, the ring can’t. The cloak can’t be mogged into either and is not that visually distinctive from other cloaks as the prior legendary weapons, which are (except for Atiesh) still available.

    All that’s left is basically an item people can link, which also have thousands of other people, not really prestigious especially considering you can get them through LFR. And you get some achievement (but to be fair the circle/time achievements are more valuable).

    Yeah, they took some effort to get, however you need the same effort to get these later on, too. (Because soloing old content can be as much effort as afking/autoshooting in lfr).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    The legendary ring (and cloak) is/was very accessible, but they should really keep the story in game, makes no sense indeed that some people may miss out on Khadgar's epicness and the little tidbits of lore (and seeing those old, old characters from pre-WoW games).
    That's what WoWWiki is for. Or Youtube. Let's be honest, anyone that didn't play Warlords and finish their ring does not care one potato about the quest storyline. I certainly don't.

    And here I thought the OP had a legitimate complaint, like removing an entire raid tier. Nope. A crappy, outdated quest chain. They removed the quest lines for hunters and priests in Cataclysm for their level 60 epic weapons. Sometimes, stuff just gets retired. Sunrise, sunset. As long as you're having fun in current content, what the hell does it even matter? Exactly.
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    I still mourn the removal of Druid quests from Vanilla and tBC, I have no idea why they removed them tbh, they are a big part of what made me fall in love with my Druid in the first place. I'm still waiting to hibernate and enter into the Emerald Dream, that was promised back in Vanilla

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