Normandy church TERROR: ISIS knifemen made priest, 84, KNEEL as they slit his throat

[Sunseeker]

Random WORDS written in all caps to elicit EMOTIONAL response instead of rational THINKING!

[SirPiken]

Sadly you totally missed the point. Religion is just the excuse, they don't care about religion. They just a need to attack the society, and religion is currently offering a way to fulfill their need.

in the 70-80s it was communist terrorism
in the 80-90s it was independentist (IRA, ETA, FLNC, etc.)

They actually don't care the cause, they just want to mutilate, to hurt, to attack.
That's also why these terrorist aren't "muslim", they are just savages. They have no goal, they only have anger.

Ya, it's so unlike muslims to cut off infidels heads...

[dwarfkicker]

How do you defeat a foe that is motivated through the power of belief? These fanatics don't play by man's law. They don't fear man's law. They follow what they believe to be god's law. They believe they're doing his work. So how do you stop an enemy like that? You can't reason with this enemy. You can't be diplomatic with this enemy. And you certainly can't ignore this enemy.

I believe the solution is waaaaay too extreme for this day and age. Though I believe if this shit keeps up for another 10 years extreme measures might be necessary. Ultimately their will to fight must be crushed. And to accomplish this, for groups like this, the toll would be very high.

[Ealyssa]

Ya, it's so unlike muslims to cut off infidels heads...

Again, if you want to cut a head try pretending it's for a reason. Makes you look less insane.

Doesn't change the fact that cuting a head is insane, and that no sane person will do that.

[Majestic12]

They have rapes every week though, caused by muslims

Show me. You make it sound like if I was to open my window I'd see some girl getting raped just outside.

I challenge you to find sources for let's say the past 1-2 months where a rape occured at the hands of a muslim, at least one every week, to prove your point.

[Deleted]

Ok well, what do you propose? All I hear is, "Give me a policy, give me a way, gimme gimme gimme...", yet hear none from you. So please enlighten me oh great prophet, what would be a policy to help stop these attacks?

Probably because there isn't really a solution... Terrorism will always exit, only thing we can do is stabilize the ME and that's nearly impossible

[Underverse]

Again, if you want to cut a head try pretending it's for a reason. Makes you look less insane.

Doesn't change the fact that cuting a head is insane, and that no sane person will do that.

Who are you to judge what constitutes sanity?

And what relevance does this judgement have?

[Nathreim]

The only way to stop is to deal with these people with Russian efficiency.

[Beazy]

How hell do you get free on bail from another terrorist attack? That has to be a mis-translation, I refuse to believe we live in a world where a terrorist went to a detainment facility where bail is even a possibility. No way in hell that's true for a second.

[Lupinemancer]

Anyone else feel like we've gotten to the point where we're basically babysitting the two religions. This shit's getting old and I'm sick of people defending religion. It's not a race, it's an ideology and its all stupid. Because some fictitious character we made up to control citizens and make ourselves feel better about death, we keep this silly nonsense going ruining lives and dictating how people should live. People need to knock it off already...

My words exactly!
And I'm tired of people trying to defend religion, it's time you realized it's a evil cult which only purpose is to spread death and chaos. It's an outdated concept that belongs in the 12th century and should have died out when we entered the modern, civilized world we live in today.


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[Nathreim]

Despite your beliefs, there is no "Press this button to kill all terrorists."
So again: How?

Just wait till they piss off Putin. Hes probably the only leader willing to deal with the problem with the ruthlessness it requires.

[dwarfkicker]

My words exactly!
And I'm tired of people trying to defend religion, it's time you realized it's a evil cult which only purpose is to spread death and chaos. It's an outdated concept that belongs in the 12th century and should have died out when we entered the modern, civilized world we live in today.

Religion is dying a slow death as it is. Give it 100+ years and historians will refer to our current religious views in the same mythological light as how we view religions of the ancient world.

[Lupinemancer]

To some island outside of the EU.

The UK could work.

That'll be a problem as all landmass belongs to some country. No wait, there is one place that is still pure and unoccupied. We can send them all there. It's call Antarctica!

[Lupinemancer]

And what about Muslims with Dutch citizenship? They belong here.
Or better: What about people that refuse to leave their country?

If they are muslims, they do not belong here, they belong in the middle east and if they refuse to follow the rulesof the countries they infest, no matter whatthey, should be kicked out. Their citizenship was given to them, it can be taken again.

[Nathreim]

Putin would actually aid the Syrian government in the fight against ISIS, something we should have done a long time ago.

Putin is aiding the Syrian Government say in power. They don't care who the enemy is they are targeting all rebel factions ISIS is just one of them. They have no real plan on expanding the war against ISIS outside Syria at this time though.

My point is when attacks in Russia become as common as they are in France Putin will not put up with it. He will burn the middle east to ashes to get them.

[Nathreim]

You still failed to answer the original question.
Despite your beliefs, there is no "Press this button to kill all terrorists."
So again: How?

I thought I was clear when I said Russian efficiency. Ill spell it out for you total destruction Russians do not play games they will wipe out civilian and enemy alike until nothing is left.

They will wipe out all fighting age men and force the next generation to attend what amounts to reeducation camps. This is how they beat the Nazis they know it works and are unafraid to use such drastic measures.

[Auxora]

I agree that both the US and countries in the EU have been way too soft (or judges hands are tied, not sure) on expelling people that they know support ISIS. Sometimes these come out of the blue, but I think half of the time at least if not more often after an attack we learn the person was known to authorities to support ISIS. I realize it's a balancing act to some degree with free speech. But it is essentially a war with ISIS, and up until recent years if a person knowingly supported a country you were at war with they would either be locked up or expelled. It doesn't a broad brush everyone at all, but if you know a person supports ISIS, don't arrest them twice and after the third time do an ankle bracelet. Something similar just happened in California yesterday where a known ISIS supporter was given supervised release. Only a matter of time before we read about him...

[Deleted]

Putin is aiding the Syrian Government say in power. They don't care who the enemy is they are targeting all rebel factions ISIS is just one of them. They have no real plan on expanding the war against ISIS outside Syria at this time though.

My point is when attacks in Russia become as common as they are in France Putin will not put up with it. He will burn the middle east to ashes to get them.

Did we move from calling them moderates to rebel factions? I'm sorry, I don't keep up with the lingo...

http://www.rt.com/usa/352193-pause-s...beheading-boy/

US mulls ‘pause’ in support of Syrian rebels following beheading of Palestinian boy.

20 Jul, 2016 01:37

The US says it may reconsider its affiliation and support for the Syrian opposition if reports of anti-Assad rebels beheading a Palestinian boy are confirmed. The State Department has vowed “consequences” if the gruesome videos of the death are true.

“If we [the United States] can prove indeed what happened and this group [al-Zenki] was involved in it… it would give us pause about any assistance or frankly any further involvement,” Deputy Spokesperson for the State Department, Mark Toner, told reporters at a daily briefing Tuesday.

Toner refused to elaborate on what consequences the Syrian opposition would face if it turns out that they had been behind the “appalling” beheading of the Palestinian boy.

“I can’t take what these consequences would be, but this would give certainly a pause and we’ll look at any affiliation or cooperation with this group,” he reiterated when asked for details.

Washington’s reaction comes in response to two videos that surfaced online Tuesday, showing five fighters from the Nour al-Din al-Zinki movement first taunting and then cutting off the boy’s head.

One of the movement’s fighters is seen grabbing the boy by his hair and pushing him down in the flatbed of a pick-up truck. He is then seen beheading him with a knife. After the killing, he raises the boy’s head up to a cheering crowd.

One of the videos stated that the Palestinian boy, who looks to be about 10 years old, was a fighter from Liwa al-Quds (the Jerusalem Brigade), a Palestinian pro-government militia currently active near Aleppo, Syria.

The killing allegedly took place in Handarat, north of Aleppo, a territory under heavy fighting. This location is known to host Ein El Tal, unofficial Palestinian refugee camp.

Nour al-Din al-Zinki’s General Command condemned the killing saying that the violence does represent the “general state” of the movement, but “an individual error.”

Previously affiliated to the Supreme Military Command (SMC) of the Free Syrian Army, Nour al-Din al-Zinki was receiving both financial and arms support from the US, as well as Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia until September 2015.

In its July report, the human rights group Amnesty International detailed cases of abduction and torture of men, women and children, as well as killings committed by the movement members.

[Renyo]

Their citizenship was given to them, it can be taken again.

Taking away someones citizenship is not legal in the countries of the western world. At least if that is their only citizenship. You can't make people stateless, not in a legal way.

[Nathreim]

I like how you are flirting with 'genocide' but scared to mention it out loud because you'd be banned before you could say 'Sieg Heil'.
You guys are disgusting.


Do you think he sees Muslims as people?

First fuck you. I just said what would happen if Russia was pushed too far. I never advocated for it just gave you the cold hard truth of what will probably will happen.


Second ISIS will never stop they are a doomsday cult they have no rules. They WANT to push the world too far so they invade. They are so crazy they believe the invasion will start off the End of Days and the world will be instantly converted to Islam and attack the Jews.

Its not just ISIS several cults are using terrorism to try and kick off the end times. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Ahmadinejad want to hasten the coming of the 12th Imam who sets off the End of Days they are on record for saying the US was trying to kill the Imam.

"It is really a government established by Satan to prevent reaching God and the Hidden Imam,… This evil government knows that its end will come if the Hidden Imam reappears." - Ahmadinejad.

If these cults keep pushing eventually they are going to push someone too far. Its sad but the innocent population of the Middle East are the ones who will suffer the most.


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Taking away someones citizenship is not legal in the countries of the western world. At least if that is their only citizenship. You can't make people stateless, not in a legal way.

You can if they were not born in the US at least not sure in other countries. But in general exile is not used in the Western Nations instead we just imprison them. Probably better that way problem with kicking these people out is they can join a terrorist cell or create their own.