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    Pointless stunt. No matter how much people rage over it, there are clear visual skin pigment differences between human races. Someone, somewhere will ask an innocent unloaded question that will require an innocent unloaded answer. Negro and Oriental are not negative words, Nigger and Chink are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    How is it shortsighted or ignorant, it is a directional term, it means they come from the East.

    It is like saying terms such as Far East, Middle East, Western World, etc. are shortsighted and ignorant, which is just bollocks.
    Lumping several nations with a bitter political history together as one is pretty ignorant, especially when you can say 'the East', much like we do for the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Oh I complain about it every year, as well as the winter breaks too. We pay them a full time salary and they should be working full time. No other Americans get 5 or more months of vacation time and unlimited sick days and are never held accountable if they are late or dont show up. Same goes for the SCOTUS, they could hear so many more cases if they worked for more than 6 months out of the year
    They work more than what the constitution dictates.

    20th amendment:
    Section 2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
    That bold part, that's all what is required legally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I know of a small hand full of things said that are literally against the law, such as death threats. But so long as I cannot be jailed for things beyond that, I feel we have as close to freedom of speech as we can get.
    It is not just jail time. You can lose your job over expressing your opinion. Ask any retired general. :P Freedom of speech is a loose term for limited speech. Just using Freedom makes it sound more noble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    I always found "honky" to be hilarious, and I'm whiter than a ghost in a blizzard. "Cracker" is also hilarious.
    And if you were officially referred to as "honky" on legal documents, and commonly called it by blacks and asians, would it still be hilarious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalwickZaik View Post
    Lumping several nations with a bitter political history together as one is pretty ignorant...
    So you are saying that terms such as Far East, Middle East, Western World, etc. are ignorant then, because that applies to every region on the planet.

    ...especially when you can say 'the East', much like we do for the rest of the world.
    It means the East, so what exactly is the difference?

    And what the actual fuck? You just said that you cannot use terms that lump everyone from a region in together and then say we can use a term that lumps everyone from a region in together.

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    it's ok Orlong! you can still refer to people using those terms if you want!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    So you are saying that terms such as Far East, Middle East, Western World, etc. are ignorant then, because that applies to every region on the planet.

    It means the East, so what exactly is the difference?

    And what the actual fuck? You just said that you cannot use terms that lump everyone from a region in together and then say we can use a term that lumps everyone from a region in together.
    The East, the Middle East and the West are places. The Orient, unless you are French (and I don't think you like them enough to be one), is a term applied to an imaginary region largely composed of Japan and China, and was popularised at a time when POC were treated as lesser.

    It's not commonly regarded as offensive in the UK, as we (general) tend to use Asian as the catch all for Indian, Pakistani etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspark View Post
    Damn, what's wrong with oriental? O_o

    USA is a really awkward place.
    Because Oriental implies they're not part of the "Western World". Western World is now used to define the civilized and technological advanced part of the world rather than the geographically Western side (Which a sphere doesn't have, by the way)

    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    The word "Indian" has been banned? But what about people from India?
    They are brown and usually live in extremely high density areas. Jengan will be the official term from now on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanknasty View Post
    Orlong is the biggest troll on these here forums. And the liberals feed him like he has a tapeworm. It's actually quite entertaining to watch them get burned.
    Misunderstanding 2 month old news and being outraged over almost nothing is burning liberals? Is there a punch line I'm missing?

    So the outrage of Trump supporters can safely be labeled as one giant troll then?

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    And the euphemism treadmill goes 'round and 'round...
    "Quack, quack, Mr. Bond."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalwickZaik View Post
    The East, the Middle East and the West are places. The Orient, unless you are French (and I don't think you like them enough to be one), is a term applied to an imaginary region largely composed of Japan and China, and was popularised at a time when POC were treated as lesser.

    It's not commonly regarded as offensive in the UK, as we (general) tend to use Asian as the catch all for Indian, Pakistani etc.
    Imaginary region that contains real places... Do you read what you type?
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Oriental is a soup

    Quote Originally Posted by S7orm View Post
    Because Oriental implies they're not part of the "Western World". Western World is now used to define the civilized and technological advanced part of the world rather than the geographically Western side (Which a sphere doesn't have, by the way)
    TBH, I dunno any Asian who is offended by Oriental term. Well may be there are some butthurt ABCs, but they also feel the pain, when they're called Chinese or 香蕉人 (banana) by other Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    Imaginary region that contains real places... Do you read what you type?
    It's not a specific region in any geological or political sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    It is not just jail time. You can lose your job over expressing your opinion. Ask any retired general. :P Freedom of speech is a loose term for limited speech. Just using Freedom makes it sound more noble.
    That's like arguing that getting fired for missing several days of work, is lacking freedom to travel. You are not free to do what ever you want, when someone is paying you for your time. The reason you get fired is not due your lack of freedom, but your having a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BalwickZaik View Post
    It's not a specific region in any geological or political sense.
    Neither is west or south or east...
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    Neither is west or south or east...
    have you heard of a compass

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalwickZaik View Post
    The East, the Middle East and the West are places. The Orient, unless you are French (and I don't think you like them enough to be one), is a term applied to an imaginary region largely composed of Japan and China, and was popularised at a time when POC were treated as lesser.

    It's not commonly regarded as offensive in the UK, as we (general) tend to use Asian as the catch all for Indian, Pakistani etc.
    The Orient is a place as well, you even state that in your reply, yet you apply completely different rules to the terms. If Oriental is ignorant and shortsighted, then so are the terms Westerner, Middle East, Far East, etc. by YOUR definitions.

    Do you know why you are struggling to come up with a reason for why that one term is ignorant which cannot be applied to all the other terms? It is because it is completely arbitrary, there is no logical justification to not use the term Oriental if you are okay with use of those other terms.

    It has been argued that it presents a Eurocentric worldview, but it is actually a Jerusalem-centric worldview - we are on one edge and people from the opposite side of the world are on the other edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    Neither is west or south or east...
    West is defined in general terms as west of Ural Mountains, east is obviously the opposite direction. South and north are generally defined by the equator. More confined to specific regions, it usually refers to their orientation to the geography of said regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BalwickZaik View Post
    Lumping several nations with a bitter political history together as one is pretty ignorant, especially when you can say 'the East', much like we do for the rest of the world.
    What about lumping Western Europe or Eastern Europe together then. Same principle, there have been some pretty bitter bouts in the past.
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