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    The Great Wall of Stupidity

    Film Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVw9YdP1O-0

    Some reactions (though my OP isn't directed at the grievances it describes):

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...on-whitewashed


    Well I can't help myself. I have to complain.

    Anyone seen the BS going on over Matt Damon's upcoming film? People are losing their shit over Matt Damon being the lead role in a ancient Chinese setting. People's beef on social media can be boiled down to this:White guy in Ancient China=historically inaccurate.

    I've grown to hate people who immediately think they're fucking historians when they discuss movies. Just stop. You're not.

    One, history isn't immune from being fictionalized: There's no unwritten rule stating that a film with a historical setting must also be historically accurate. Even if there was, it'd be a stupid rule; I don't pay to see movies that give me a history lesson--though I enjoy informative historical films occasionally. I pay to see badasses wreck shit. And guess what? Jackie Chan is too old, his sons suck as actors, Bruce and Brandon Lee are dead, the effeminate Asian dude from the Hangover can't play this role, and the asian that plays Glenn from The Walking Dead can't either.



    These "historians" also need to point out where in Chinese history textbooks it says that the Chinese built the wall to fend off demonic monsters. While they're at it, they can point out when Chinese infantrymen bungee jumped off it to fight off invaders.

    People are unbelievable. What started as a film intriguing me because of its concept turned into me being mystified by this Great Wall of Stupidity.

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    I've not seen anything about the film, yet. But I've assumed it was about China and wondered myself why they casted Matt Damon for it. Makes no sense at all. I can understand people giving the producers flak for that, it seems like a rather stupid decision. But then, Hollywood never really cared about being accurate.
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    I'm torn on this issue...

    On the one hand, I like for actors who are portraying historical figures to be accurate in heritage. On the other hand, if the movie isn't all that serious, it's actually pretty funny to have inaccuracies all over the place.

    But this. This looks like it's trying to take itself seriously and it just... isn't. Why the fuck are mongolians dragon-like monsters? Or at least have dragon like monsters at their disposal. This looks like it's stylistically trying to be 300 and is just going to fail in every other way.
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    That seems like an interesting film
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    Looks stupid and boring, why cant they just make a good historical Great Wall movie about keeping invaders out and not freaking demons.

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    All this offense and getting upset over who's cast for a fucking movie, along with the people who are taking offense and getting upset, is fucking retarded. I had to call out one of the administrators of VideoETA for his retarded-as-fuck "review" of Wonder Woman (more specifically, the poster). Seriously, can we please go back to punching stupid people?

    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Looks stupid and boring, why cant they just make a good historical Great Wall movie about keeping invaders out and not freaking demons.
    Because that would be boring.

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    Also, when I saw the title I thought this thread title I thought it was going to be about Trump's wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    That seems like an interesting film
    You and your annoying cheeriness... can't you be annoyed at anything? *grumbles*
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    Lead role of fantasy film is taken by popular actor who's heritage matches that of the majority of the film's target audience.

    Obviously?


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    Also, when I saw the title I thought this thread title I thought it was going to be about Trump's wall.
    I came in here expecting the exact same thing xD

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    They gave him lots and lots of money, I bet.
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    The film is made with chinese money, for chinese audiences, and by a chinese director.

    If they are fine with it, who are we to judge?

    I notice people get mad when there isnt enough "diversity" in casting except here. I wonder what the common denominator is... they seem to be upset by one thing's inclusion always

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Looks stupid and boring, why cant they just make a good historical Great Wall movie about keeping invaders out and not freaking demons.
    Probably because it's more entertaining to do some fictional stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arewn View Post
    Lead role of fantasy film is taken by popular actor who's heritage matches that of the majority of the film's target audience.

    Obviously?



    I came in here expecting the exact same thing xD
    <insert Whitewashing narrative> + <add something about systematic racism to keep whites in power> bonus: <inaccurate portrayal of meaningless award show bias>

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    I think Chinese people didnt have to fight against dragons and they had no flying vehicles back then in real history. So I guess a non chinese chinese (could be a migrant kid born but with chinese citizenship (which would mean he is a chinese)) guy is acceptable in the storys context. He is probably just a elite mercenary hero guy.

    Also +1 for Pedro Pascal.
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    Probably casted to make it more appealing to the western audience. Has any full asian casted movie ever done well here can't seem to remember one, with well i mean box office succes.

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    First off this isnt a historical film. This is a historical fantasy. And because its fantasy you can have w.e race you want to be the main guy. Pretty sure he says he's a mercenary type in the trailer, meaning he got hired for the job. I could be wrong but it makes sense. Armies arnt the only people fighting wars. And there are alot! of Asians in the film. So ppl need to get off it.

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    The movie involves giant monsters attacking one of the greatest wonders of the world. It's not supposed to be historically accurate. Otherwise I could understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Probably casted to make it more appealing to the western audience. Has any full asian casted movie ever done well here can't seem to remember one, with well i mean box office succes.
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? only one i can remember that people talked alot about.

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    Tbh, I do think he looks really out of place in it.

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