"Mog Shaming"

[Al Gorefiend]

I would never slut mog myself. Maybe it is because I come from relatively sane culture where girls don't wear thongs on beaches and don't reveal themselves too much, of course there are exceptions. But I remember my visit in the USA, two different worlds, never want to come back, at least on beaches there.

I don't like people slut mogging, it is simply counter intuitive and looks silly in combat. I believe that modesty should be applied everywhere.

-coming from a female using modesty guidlines

What's the problem? Its the human body, the idea that we have to hide ourselves behind clothes is a prosaic, puritan ideology.

[Hexxidecimal]

Ever considering the line is too fine and it's all merely a matter of perspective?

I just wanted peoples opinions on slutmogs, as silly as that is. Nothing else really. Even the original situation, I let her go pretty easily in the scheme of things as I used to be a very unrelenting, ruthless individual if something ever bothered me. These days I have no desire to simply "destroy" someone because I don't agree with their actions or opinion. Hell, usually I keep opinions like that to myself as I had already expressed.

The only reason I seem so defensive and nasty is I am emulating my aggressors. I can easily enough take some, "Did you really need to do that?" or inquiries into my actual actions concerning the "shaming" despite the quotations being evidence enough I'm not being literal. What I won't deal with though is the pure vitriolic shit-flinging being cast my way.

You know my position at this point and why I made the post initially. What more do you really want?

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I would've enslaved him. How terrible.

Oh I am not looking for anything from you sir. Just having a discussion and trying to answer your initial post. You asked if you you were alone in your "desire for some sense of not only modesty but perhaps more importantly, TASTE?" I am just trying to convey the thought of "No, you aren't buuuuut the way you went about it was not how I would have done it."

From there I just assumed we were debating the merits of speaking your mind vs. not.

[Al Gorefiend]

No, as again, that's not typical behavior by me in the first place; though that sure as fuck doesn't stop me from thinking, "Look at that bitch and her thigh-highs and her panties. Who is she fooling? TRICK ASS HO!" before I switch to one of my dozens of cutsie dresses and go dungeoning.

Like I said, I'm all down for being pretty and glammed up. Anything that is fetch, I want. Wearing your skivvies and thinking you've got style? The only thing you're getting points in is how many gawking boytards you've managed to lure your way with such a scandalous lack of apparel. G.R.O.S.S... Gross.

I think you need to just let people indulge in their fantasies in a fantasy game however they please.

I have no female characters, 1 elf character (my NE DH) and no human characters. I love being the ugly, brutish, big n' buff guys like Orcs, Trolls, Dwarves & Pandas. I dress them up like brutes, put loinclothes and beads on them, my main is a male troll priest with a mostly bare chest because Trolls kinda do that (it is insanely hot where they come from).

I don't really care if my toon is ugly, because IRL I'm an attractive person and I'm not self-conscious of my looks or personality. Playing cutesie, sexy little elves was never my thing.

[Heladys]

Cool, then kindly stop posting and move along if you really don't care.

Nah, you're free to express your opinion to the extent the medium allows it, and I'm free to choose to tell you off in response if I choose, to the extent the medium allows it.

[Rudol Von Stroheim]

Oh I am not looking for anything from you sir. Just having a discussion and trying to answer your initial post. You asked if you you were alone in your "desire for some sense of not only modesty but perhaps more importantly, TASTE?" I am just trying to convey the thought of "No, you aren't buuuuut the way you went about it was not how I would have done it."

From there I just assumed we were debating the merits of speaking your mind vs. not.

Well, I mean, should I have just opened up with, "You look like a whore coming fresh off of a street corner prowl. Am I supposed to be impressed?"

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I think you need to just let people indulge in their fantasies in a fantasy game however they please.

I have no female characters, 1 elf character (my NE DH) and no human characters. I love being the ugly, brutish, big n' buff guys like Orcs, Trolls, Dwarves & Pandas. I dress them up like brutes, put loinclothes and beads on them, my main is a male troll priest with a mostly bare chest because Trolls kinda do that (it is insanely hot where they come from).

I don't really care if my toon is ugly, because IRL I'm an attractive person and I'm not self-conscious of my looks or personality. Playing cutesie, sexy little elves was never my thing.

I'm a guy that almost went transgender and still doesn't know what the fuck he is sexually at age thirty so... being a miqote or a human and playing dress up gives me some room for fun on that front; hence why I tend to play them. Every so often I'll play a male. Like my only one on WoW is a human rogue that looks rather devilish with his mustache, ponytail, eyepatch, subtly aged lines, and all the amenities you would expect of a swashbuckling debonair.

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Nah, you're free to express your opinion to the extent the medium allows it, and I'm free to choose to tell you off in response if I choose, to the extent the medium allows it.

Okay? Have fun with that then.

[Franzy]

'Rate my mog *instert t10 here*" also gets me.
Slut mogs are okaay, if you be creative and not use the entire set which a lot of simple people tend to do.

[Deleted]

What's the problem? Its the human body, the idea that we have to hide ourselves behind clothes is a prosaic, puritan ideology.

No I don't think so. I do not pray on peoples basic instincts. I would feel wrong with myself if I were to willingly arouse men. Human body serves different purposes. We use clothing for a reason. Culture of sex is not my type of culture

[Al Gorefiend]

No I don't think so. I do not pray on peoples basic instincts. I would feel wrong with myself if I were to willingly arouse men. Human body serves different purposes. We use clothing for a reason. Culture of sex is not my type of culture

Nudity =/= sex. Its because we hide behind so many clothes that sexualization of things that aren't sexual happens. In cultures where its very common for women to walk around topless, nobody finds boobs a very arousing body part. Because men's butts are used for comedy, nobody finds them sexual despite the female butt being very sexual despite them looking the exact same regardless of gender.

In fact its funny you mention the USA as being too sexualized for your tastes. In the US, women can be arrested for taking off their tops in public places unless the purpose is to breastfeed. That is absolutely outrageous. #Freethenipple is a thing for a reason.

[Hexxidecimal]

Well, I mean, should I have just opened up with, "You look like a whore coming fresh off of a street corner prowl. Am I supposed to be impressed?"

Ha, decidedly no. I don't think so. Personally I don't think I am as "inhibited" as you perhaps, or to put it in a less derisive way, I am waaay more open to open sexuality and even people wanting and getting attention off of it. Though I understand the frustration you face. You see the issue for me wouldn't be the morality or decency of it. Rather the dis-ingeniousness of it. If I believed that what they were doing was just attention getting under a thin WoW veil as opposed to being simply open about it I would be annoyed too. For instance I have respect for someone who simply calls out in Chat LF ERP Partner want to role play blah blah scenario. I dislike it when someone just leverages the fact that they are a female or acting as a female and use that to get freebies. I dislike the penis for brains idiots who make the behavior profitable even more. Were it all on the table however, like "I am a female (or at least will pretend to be) and will talk with you and converse with you with my sexy toon for stuff", then I am ok with it. I just don't like subterfuge in any business model really.

Anyhow I digress. I don't know what you actually said so I have no idea where you should have said as opposed to what was actually said. Rather I wouldn't have said anything. If I wasn't trying to change their mind then the only reason I am saying anything is to be a dick. Me, myself, I don't want to be a dick. So I would have said nothing.

[breadisfunny]

i will proudly wear my "slutmogs" with pride. just to anger people like the op.

[Dispraise]

Slutmog checking in.

Felt left out, since none of my toons are actually dressed sluttily. Had to throw together some sets.


By far my favorite

[Tommi]

HEY GUISE, RATE MY MOG PLZ

http://puu.sh/qEY3i/c9394a2458.jpg

[NoRest4Wicked]

I do both, I have quite a few mogs saved, both slut and not. My biggest issue is matching color - I have to get my friends to check every mog I do. Being color blind is fun when attempting stuff like this (I have my wife check my clothing in the morning too, wouldn't want to wear something bad with my blue pants)

[Hotmail]

I was pretty disappointed to find out that this was not a Jaylock thread.

[Hexxidecimal]

Well, I mean, should I have just opened up with, "You look like a whore coming fresh off of a street corner prowl. Am I supposed to be impressed?"

Oh further more. To add to what I posted a moment ago. I also wouldn't lump in the idea of getting freebies in WoW as the same thing as getting complimented on your "slutmog". In this case maybe the person posting the mog legitimately likes sexy things. It's not that odd really. They might not be looking for learing pervy dudes to make pervy comments but they can't stop them either. They shouldn't stop posting shit they thing is cool just because some morons can't keep their libido in check right?

[Lumael]

Didn't read beyond the first post but this is my slugmog and I absolutely love it.

[Dispraise]

Didn't read beyond the first post but this is my slugmog and I absolutely love it.

The hat sells it.

[rogoth]

So I did it. I finally shamed people over their transmogs, I couldn't help it, got under my skin in a way that made me crawl.

I'm part of many WoW community pages on Facebook and I often see female administrators post images, purposefully or inadvertently with their character front-row-and-center; meanwhile, sitting on the login screen for said character and therefore no missing what they're wearing or look like... even if the post has nothing to do with their character in the first place.

Almost every time(if not just that thus far) their character is wearing the skimpiest, most gaudy little outfit humanly possible and then trying to up the "cute" factor by throwing a witch's hat atop the bizarre ensemble. Then when you go into the comments section, all you read is, "Oh excellent mog!" and other variants in terms of compliments.

Why?

These are some of the easiest mogs to throw on, common as all hell, they require virtually no forethought nor consideration, and they're clearly designed simply to draw attention towards the character's sexuality and therefore the player. Why is being tacky a celebrated thing? It's not only tacky but it doesn't even look good unless you're that big on pixellated in-game pornography.

I'm a male with several female characters and each one of them have virtually no skin showing. I went out of my way to find interesting transmogs for each that complimented their class/lore as much as humanly possible. From my Hunter to my Demon Hunter. Not only for the sake of adding a level of immersion to my gaming but also because women, even pixel ones, don't always need to be some thong-wearing buxom goddess to be helluva cool. That simply comes across as demeaning to me no matter how hard I try to look around it.

Who else feels similarly?

Am I alone here in my desire for some sense of not only modesty but perhaps more importantly, TASTE?

the biggest issue i have with this post and your mindset in general, is that while you have some valid points, the majority of it is purely subjective and your opinion, what these people you talk about like is obvious, and they share it in the hopes that others who also like it will give them a pat on the back for such a thing, for the most part as i don't doubt there are people who simply do it to garner attention by using the sexuality of the character in question to draw views, much like some of the moronic female twitch streamers that do nothing but flaunt cleavage and thinly veiled innuendo to get views etc, furthermore you say that all your characters from your hunter to your demon hunter have "tasteful" mogs by your standards, then it must pain you to know that the lore surrounding demon hunters and their dress code is that they wear almost no clothing save for a leather belt and maybe some pants of somekind to go along with the belt, the only reason this isn't the case in game is due to the whole "12+" game rating thing so all female models must be covered up, because "oh won't somebody think of the children" when it comes to partial pixelated nudity, and they only wear the sash over the eyes as a tribute to/tradition of illidan the master, the first demon hunter, it serves no real purpose other than that from a practical point of view.

[Maudib]

Lol to the "ewwww slutmog" peeps... they probably have porn shortcuts all over their desktop.

I am a man and I appreciate a sexy, slutty mog.

[Feel The Power]

Yeah because my opinion towards how one appears is limited to only women, right.

Here's what your OP consisted of:
"I often see female administrators post images, purposefully or inadvertently with their character front-row-and-center"
"Almost every time(if not just that thus far) their character is wearing the skimpiest, most gaudy little outfit humanly possible and then trying to up the "cute" factor by throwing a witch's hat atop the bizarre ensemble."
"I'm a male with several female characters and each one of them have virtually no skin showing."
"but also because women, even pixel ones, don't always need to be some thong-wearing buxom goddess to be helluva cool. That simply comes across as demeaning to me no matter how hard I try to look around it."

This comment was the 14th post in this thread, in which you said nothing about men after your original op (at least up to this comment). When your complaint was completely based around females, then how was anyone supposed to take it any differently than that? I cannot understand caring so much about something that does not affect you at all, especially something like how others want to play their game...you know, a super serious fantasy game full of gnomes, magic cows, goats from space, and drunken panda bears. You're mad about facebook posts from female wow admins, who show off pics of their stupidly dressed characters. It got under your skin...seeing pictures of a video game character. This is such beyond trivial stuff, there is no reason to care about how people want to look like when playing a silly FANTASY game, let alone shame them and then make a post on a public forum talking about it. This is almost mindboggling to me.

You also said:
"Then when you go into the comments section, all you read is, "Oh excellent mog!" and other variants in terms of compliments.
Why?
These are some of the easiest mogs to throw on, common as all hell, they require virtually no forethought nor consideration.
I went out of my way to find interesting transmogs for each that complimented their class/lore as much as humanly possible. From my Hunter to my Demon Hunter."
I think this is all more of a case of "why aren't people complimenting me instead of these female wow admins on Facebook sites?". Let me tell you why; in most cases these women are getting compliments because it's their friends or people in their guild being nice to them. It's that simple.