Grom Hellscream in Legion

[Alvito]

Why create a new character to bring in the Legion when you can reintroduce old ones just sweep them under the rug?

It pushed the expansion along. It is no different then the bulk of npcs from every expansion.

[Staalsy]

They devs say the forces of draenor will appear in some point in legion, maybe in the final patch of this expantion.

[citation needed]

[RedNight at MMOC]

But you can't link a source for that so I'm going to assume it's bs

You did not link a source saying Grommash did not commit war crimes, "so I'm going to assume it's bs."

[JustRob]

Almost the entire zone, forcing an Orc to prove his worth before accepting him, making him create the "dark star" and then having the "dark star" and a large chunk of his forces assault Karabor. Lets not forget the sacrifice in the town of Shaz'gul when you meet with Yrel and you and her need to fight your way out after witnessing the orcs mutilate her comrades. Lets move into Talador, with the fucked up assault on Shattrath. Sends his fleet and Warlord Blackhand there to slaughter the Draenei and take the capital. There's enough specific sources for the typical troll who can only reply with asinine comments to everything.

I'm not reading anything about killing children

[Mehrunes]

I kinda honestly doubt Draenor has the concept of war crimes.

[Zyky]

I'm not reading anything about killing children

Like I said, asinine comments. Where there are adults, especially in 2 major capital hubs, there are children. You want specifics go watch the Maarad Lords of War video, there's your dead children in Shattrath. Or how about any specific account on the assault of Telmor, where they specifically mention mutilated draenei children.

[JustRob]

Like I said, asinine comments. Where there are adults, especially in 2 major capital hubs, there are children. You want specifics go watch the Maarad Lords of War video, there's your dead children in Shattrath. Or how about any specific account on the assault of Telmor, where they specifically mention mutilated draenei children.

Yea you're talking main universe, and the Shattrath you see in the Maraad video is from the main unìverse, where the orcs were juiced up by the demon blood.

Grommash in WoD didn't drink the blood and fights with honor.

[lockybalboa]

No more orcs

[Venziir]

Yea you're talking main universe, and the Shattrath you see in the Maraad video is from the main unìverse, where the orcs were juiced up by the demon blood.

Grommash in WoD didn't drink the blood and fights with honor.

And nothing says honor like giant bombs, enslaved gronns with cannons fused to their backs and all sorts of alien tech from another, alternate world and void magic which you forced another clan to use under the threat of death? Not to mention the blood magic of the Bleeding Hollow Clan..........

[Nero Duskwind]

The fact that Gul'dan is the only thing worth mentioning about that fucking place is damning enough, don't you think?

Indeed. It sucks that WoD's purpose was little more than as a Deus Ex Machina meant to shoehorn Gul'Dan back into existence.

[Zyky]

Yea you're talking main universe, and the Shattrath you see in the Maraad video is from the main unìverse, where the orcs were juiced up by the demon blood.

Grommash in WoD didn't drink the blood and fights with honor.

There is no honor in mutilating children, the Shattrath in the main universe is exactly what happened in AU. There were children there, there were children in Karabor. You're just ignorant.

[Dug]

I reckon Draenor gang will be back for the Army of Light business

[JustRob]

And nothing says honor like giant bombs, enslaved gronns with cannons fused to their backs and all sorts of alien tech from another, alternate world and void magic which you forced another clan to use under the threat of death? Not to mention the blood magic of the Bleeding Hollow Clan..........

These are just war tactics, really don't see the problem.

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There is no honor in mutilating children, the Shattrath in the main universe is exactly what happened in AU. There were children there, there were children in Karabor. You're just ignorant.

No it isn't lol. Don't call me ignorant just cuz you don't know the story. In the AU Shattrath was evacuated and the only people there were fighters. Karabor didn't have children to begin with, it wasn't a city. It was a temple.

[Venziir]

These are just war tactics, really don't see the problem.

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No it isn't lol. Don't call me ignorant just cuz you don't know the story. In the AU Shattrath was evacuated and the only people there were fighters. Karabor didn't have children to begin with, it wasn't a city. It was a temple.

... Why do I even bother...

[Zulkhan]

These are just war tactics, really don't see the problem.

Are you aware that doing everything suiting your mere convenience diametrically clashes with the concept of "honor" right?

Garrosh and AU Grom have a similar conception of "honor" and is extremely cheap. Draka outrights calls the Warsong "dishonorable as ever" the moment she steps in Nagrand. Case in point.

[Skeppio]

He will randomly pop-up just to reassure you, that you are, indeed, free.

You're taking that line out of context. In truth, he's notifying you that players will no longer require a paid subscription to access Warlords content.

[RedNight at MMOC]

I'm not reading anything about killing children

The Shadowmoon Clan attack on Embaari Village. The Iron Horde assault on Karabor (where in the main universe the Orcish Horde slaughtered hundreds of defenseless Draenei). If you take just one second to use that brain of yours, imagine what you could accomplish!

[Kpmk]

There are very few good characters left in wow. Apparently they had to go back and butcher the old ones too. I would be very happy to never see grommash again, he reminds me nothing of the Grom that we know and love, so why even keep him around? Even his voice acting in wod was completely terrible. It's sad how far blizzard has fallen in that regard. The voice acting in Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Warcraft 2, and Warcraft 3 are all pretty amazing . Nowadays, I hear another character voiced by metzen and I want to shoot myself

[OIS]

I kinda honestly doubt Draenor has the concept of war crimes.

It is a #savage world. Its lifeblood is war, according to Grommash Hellscream himself. So people need to cut this war crimes crap as soon as possible. There won't be a trial for Grommash. If you have beef with him, go grab an axe and try to bash his skull in. That's justice in Draenor.

Why do people want to see people in trial rather than see them fighting? This is Warcraft, ya pansies, not Law&Order.

*Law&Order ding dong*

[My User Name]

It is a #savage world. Its lifeblood is war, according to Grommash Hellscream himself. So people need to cut this war crimes crap as soon as possible. There won't be a trial for Grommash. If you have beef with him, go grab an axe and try to bash his skull in. That's justice in Draenor.

"Oh yeah, this Grom guy just killed my family and half of my race. But let's just ignore his actions because we're living in a "#savage world", right? Things like that aaalways happen..."

These are just war tactics, really don't see the problem.

"War tactics"! Because that is a good reason to ignore Iron Horde's actions.

I kinda honestly doubt Draenor has the concept of war crimes.

Hello, orcs are not the only races in Draenor you know. Government doesn't work worldwide.

Just saying.