Is it possible that Draenor could have held an incubating Titan? [Spoilers]

[Monteverdi]

Go with me here...

We know that the Legion is interested in Azeroth as it holds in its core the 'last' Titan. Whether or not Azeroth *is* that Titan or simply an egg for the Titan is debatable, but a debate for another time.

So I'm sitting here with my tinfoil hat on and I'm thinking 'what if there are others?'. We know the Titans scoured the universe looking, unsuccessfully, for a planet with a World Soul - ie; a developing Titan - until they found Azeroth. We also know that Sargeras killed the Pantheon and has endeavored to destroy Azeroth, and indeed all life in the universe, as a means of defeating the Void Lords with some finality. We also know that it was Sargeras' Burning Legion that corrupted the Orcs and brought them to Azeroth, destroying Draenor in the process.

What if - and this is a big 'what if' - Sargeras was killing two birds with one stone? What if Draenor, like Azeroth, held a World Soul, and that Gul'Dan destroyed it when he broke Draenor apart. What if that's what the Legion is trying to do again in the Tomb of Sargeras (with their massive portal being a 'wound' in the world)?

Is it possible? What would the ramifications be if this were true?

/tinfoil

[Friendlyimmolation]

Draenor was mentioned as a low priority world by Archimonde. If it had a Titan soul they would have blown it up upon finding it.

[Raetary]

no.
if that would be the case the legion would've straight up invaded and destroyed the planet.
instead of manipulating its natives for their own advantage to get to another planet.

[RedNight at MMOC]

When and where was it ever said Azeroth was the last Titan???

[Enthralled]

When and where was it ever said Azeroth was the last Titan???

Wrathion says: WE HAVE FALLEN. WE MUST REBUILD THE FINAL TITAN. DO NOT FORGET.

[derpkitteh]

Wrathion says: WE HAVE FALLEN. WE MUST REBUILD THE FINAL TITAN. DO NOT FORGET.

it's just the final titan they know of, not the final titan.

the universe is immeasurably gigantic. there could be zero or a million left.

[Enthralled]

it's just the final titan they know of, not the final titan.

the universe is immeasurably gigantic. there could be zero or a million left.

True enough. Although, by this time Sargeras and the BL are said to have destroyed nearly everything, and world souls were extremely rare to begin with.

[Trollokdamus]

Draenor furies are stable and live in peace, which means the planet's Spirit hasn't been consumed, which means there is no nascent titan inside Draenor.

[Rakaji]

If there would have been a titan soul on Draenor, Draenor's Old Gods would have probably corrupted it a long time ago. We know Draenor had Old Gods, and they, unlike the ones discovered on Azeroth, were not kept in check by the Titans.

Which reminds me... the Old Gods of Draenor were dead in Outland, and the Arakkoa were trying to bring one back to life. Does that mean on alternate Draenor, there may have been an Old God (or more) alive in the planet at the time?

[Aucald]

If there would have been a titan soul on Draenor, Draenor's Old Gods would have probably corrupted it a long time ago. We know Draenor had Old Gods, and they, unlike the ones discovered on Azeroth, were not kept in check by the Titans.

Which reminds me... the Old Gods of Draenor were dead in Outland, and the Arakkoa were trying to bring one back to life. Does that mean on alternate Draenor, there may have been an Old God (or more) alive in the planet at the time?

If I recall, I think the Arakkoa were summoning an Old God to Draenor, not reviving one that was already present. Although in the WoD lore for the Spires of Arak there is mention of a seething darkness below Skettis, one that wheedled and promised in exchange for worship. Not sure what exactly that force was, but it does sound like a close cousin of the Old Gods or their minions.

[Deleted]

after the ridicilous chronicle retcons the Burning Legion's mission doesn't make sense anymore

why would Sargeras destroy worlds without world souls? there is no point

[Netherspark]

When and where was it ever said Azeroth was the last Titan???

All other known Titans are dead.

It's also stated that Azeroth is one of only a handful of worlds not yet destroyed by the Legion. So, it pretty much is the last one.

[Aucald]

after the ridicilous chronicle retcons the Burning Legion's missions doesn't make sense anymore

why would Sargeras destroy worlds without world souls? there is no point

Sargeras seeks to destroy all of creation before and so that the Void Lords can't corrupt and pervert it. The destruction of nascent Titan world-souls is high on his list of priorities, but it's not the only thing. He wants to destroy creation and create a new universe or multiverse without the intrinsic flaws that the Void Lords can corrupt. According to some of the Artifact lore for Legion Sargeras is now also obsessed with claiming and possessing the Azeroth Titan as his own, possibly out of some kind of twisted sense of lust or simple greed for the power it seems to posses.

[Shadochi]

Azeroth is not confirmed to be the Last titan, but just the last known planet with a titan (of which only 2 were found, Sargeras cleaved the other one in half).
Also, we have no information about Azeroth being one of the last worlds, we only know tha the Burning Legion destroyed over 10 000 worlds, but also that upon finding Azeroths world soul, only a small portion of the universe was explored by the titans.

Now, if Draenor actually had a Titan Soul, the titans would've stayed there longer, and not leave early. (we know they were there because of Gorgrond and a Blizzcon panel)

[derpkitteh]

True enough. Although, by this time Sargeras and the BL are said to have destroyed nearly everything, and world souls were extremely rare to begin with.

have they actually said anything about how much they have destroyed?

certainly it's a lot, but in comparison to the size of the universe, it's probably not all that much.

[darkdude103]

The legion is only interested in Dreanor because of Kil'jadens vendetta against Velen

[Aeluron Lightsong]

after the ridicilous chronicle retcons the Burning Legion's mission doesn't make sense anymore

why would Sargeras destroy worlds without world souls? there is no point

Destroying all of Creation even if there's no world soul seems high on his list.

[Deleted]

Sargeras seeks to destroy all of creation before and so that the Void Lords can't corrupt and pervert it. The destruction of nascent Titan world-souls is high on his list of priorities, but it's not the only thing. He wants to destroy creation and create a new universe or multiverse without the intrinsic flaws that the Void Lords can corrupt. According to some of the Artifact lore for Legion Sargeras is now also obsessed with claiming and possessing the Azeroth Titan as his own, possibly out of some kind of twisted sense of lust or simple greed for the power it seems to posses.

so he wishes to destroy the multiverse (even though most life even if corrupted could never be a threat to him, or the universe) so the void lords can't corrupt stuff, then maybe life will take root again and what stops the Void Lords from then corrupting it anyway? It's a foolish crusade.

oh yeah and he has to do that in a multiverse

good luck and R.I.P lore

before the retcon book things made sense, now it doesn't and the Void Lords are a stupid concept

[DarkTZeratul]

so he wishes to destroy the multiverse (even though most life even if corrupted could never be a threat to him, or the universe) so the void lords can't corrupt stuff, then maybe life will take root again and what stops the Void Lords from then corrupting it anyway? It's a foolish crusade.

It's not like "destroy the universe because law and order are folly" was any less of a foolish crusade.

[Deleted]

Go with me here...

We know that the Legion is interested in Azeroth as it holds in its core the 'last' Titan. Whether or not Azeroth *is* that Titan or simply an egg for the Titan is debatable, but a debate for another time.

So I'm sitting here with my tinfoil hat on and I'm thinking 'what if there are others?'. We know the Titans scoured the universe looking, unsuccessfully, for a planet with a World Soul - ie; a developing Titan - until they found Azeroth. We also know that Sargeras killed the Pantheon and has endeavored to destroy Azeroth, and indeed all life in the universe, as a means of defeating the Void Lords with some finality. We also know that it was Sargeras' Burning Legion that corrupted the Orcs and brought them to Azeroth, destroying Draenor in the process.

What if - and this is a big 'what if' - Sargeras was killing two birds with one stone? What if Draenor, like Azeroth, held a World Soul, and that Gul'Dan destroyed it when he broke Draenor apart. What if that's what the Legion is trying to do again in the Tomb of Sargeras (with their massive portal being a 'wound' in the world)?

Is it possible? What would the ramifications be if this were true?

/tinfoil

It was Ner'zhul who tore it appart