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  1. #761
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    Also the claim list as of now.

    Allowyn - Stalker
    Celtic - Doc
    Dupti - Drunk
    JynxieJ - Screamer
    Listo95
    Marack
    Soldier 76 - Vampire Vigi
    Virothe
    Xanjori

    So that leaves 4 people unclaimed and I know I'm town so that does mean if no one who has claimed is lying those 3 are most likely to be scum at this rate.

  2. #762
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marack View Post
    @Celtic209 I dont recall you stating who you protected, so who did you protect N1-4? obviouslly leave off last night

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    @listo95 who do you think we should push today, and why?
    Post 653
    N1: Virothe - a clear N1 target
    N2: arialla - don't like him/her but PR claimed
    N3: Ret - helped me in the Danner case
    N4: ??? - I can only protect every other night but I don't want to make it easy for scum
    N4 was Allowyn.
    Kinda annoyed I didn't think to protect Ret but I didn't have a lot of time to get my choice in.

  3. #763
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    3 mafia dead, 1 3rd party dead. Likely 2-3 scum left.
    @listo95 Why do you only have 2 votes out in the 5 days of the game? Do you think anyone isnt being honest with their claims?
    @Virothe @Celtic209 @listo95 Who do you think we should target today and why?

  4. #764
    I got the "dupti is innocent" message now. Whoever sent those messages is probably town (and is not one of the claims we have so far), which means we should be able to confirm another town.

    Me and Jynx are town. I really do believe Marack is town as well. I'd like to hear from Allowyn today, because after reading her claim once again something bothered me. When she claimed her result on me, she claimed she 'tracked' me but yesterday she claimed she watched someone (Jynx I believe?). Still not sure I believe Celtics claim.

  5. #765
    The more I look at Reti's role the more I think it means he was a weird Doctor, which makes question Celtic :/

    Also because I never responded to this yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    I'll understand if people still want to lynch me after this claim given what happened with Virothe during the previous game.
    You shouldn't be lynched for what I did last game, you should be lynched because we're under 10 players now and anyone who has a claimed kill at this point is just as prone to do massive damage to town as they are to help it. If mafia and you both take out town again tonight (if you can kill, you claim you can't but /shrug) and we mislynch it puts us at 6 players alive and another 3 kills if you aren't lynch. If that happens it puts us at potentialls 3 players left with 2 kills left.

    It's like I said in my thread last game when I claimed that Kryll kill, Town should be smart enough to lynch me for claiming a kill regardless of my claim. They didn't and they lost and regardless of if you are a vigi or if you're something else you're still a danger to the town.

  6. #766
    Quote Originally Posted by listo95 View Post
    Also the claim list as of now.

    Allowyn - Stalker
    Celtic - Doc
    Dupti - Drunk
    JynxieJ - Screamer
    Listo95
    Marack
    Soldier 76 - Vampire Vigi
    Virothe
    Xanjori

    So that leaves 4 people unclaimed and I know I'm town so that does mean if no one who has claimed is lying those 3 are most likely to be scum at this rate.
    So you believe you are the only town who hasn't claimed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marack View Post
    @Virothe @Celtic209 @listo95 Who do you think we should target today and why?
    I'd also like the three of you to answer this please.

  7. #767
    Quote Originally Posted by listo95 View Post
    So that leaves 4 people unclaimed and I know I'm town so that does mean if no one who has claimed is lying those 3 are most likely to be scum at this rate.
    Well to be fair outside the first day I've not been pressured nor have I had anything relevant to add to the thread based on what my role is. There isn't a lot of point to saying "Oh I do X but I see no ramifications for what I've done in thread, that's why I claimed to lessen how vague the field is and allow for less wifom needed for our killers!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupti View Post
    I'd also like the three of you to answer this please.
    I did already, Based on the info I have at hand I have no reason to believe Celtics role and there are a few things that make me disbelieve it. And I firmly believe allowing people have claimed the ability to kill to live past 10 players is a mistake.

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    Mega Post incoming. This is going to take a while so dont hold your breaths

  9. #769
    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic209 View Post
    Mega Post incoming. This is going to take a while so dont hold your breaths
    *choking noises*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largehorn View Post
    *choking noises*
    THAT'S WHAT YOU GETTING FOR MAKING MISTAKES!

    /notalliscaps

  11. #771
    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic209 View Post
    So this opened right as I went to sleep >.>

    Interesting day. It seems crackle is claiming two use doctor. It also seems he has a tentative guilty on him

    At work so can't post a full analysis now but I'm inclined to believe him for the moment. I'll need to review his posts
    Celtic why did you believe Crackle's claim?

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    I mean I know you already said you wouldn't counter claim (which I agree with), but I do not understand why you'd say you were inclined to believe him.

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    @Allowyn, I hope you can post today. Oh and if this is some scum gambit, shame on you. But I'd like to believe it isn't.

    In any case, I'd like you to explain your actual role. When you claimed in #484 you claimed to have tracked me n1, n2 and n3 and I can obviously confirm that what you said was correct, which was why I believed your claim.

    However in #639 you seemed to imply that you are a watcher by telling Jynx that no one visited him. So yeah, please explain.

  12. #772
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    Ok so a bit of meta-gaming

    First we have the Mod's post saying that this game will all be based around time and when night actions are submitted. This is supported by the various roles we have see with time as an effect.

    Second we started with 18 players which gives us a rough scum count of 18 with 3 mafians dead.
    The Mafians seem to be based around Casino People
    Dranx - Casino Owner - The Godfather, but he can pass on the GF role
    Danner - Security Director - Role Cop
    Crackleslap - Pit Boss - Roleblocker

    Thats 3 Power Roles for mafia. And I doubt we've caught them all. Im betting at least 1 more mafian, maaaybe 2.

    Im also betting we have a serial killer (Graeham in my personal opinion).

    Onto our Townie deaths:

    Catta (First Shift Factory Worker) - Modified Watcher
    Kryllian (Hopeless Romantic) - Modified Lover
    Arialla (Barista) Time Alterer
    Reticence (Little Old Lady) Time Alterer/Jailkeeper
    Krayzy (Personal Trainer) Time Alterer

    All (bar the lover) seem to modify time someway.

    Allowyn - Stalker - Follows people
    Celtic - Doc - Saves Lives
    Dupti - Drunk - Heckles
    JynxieJ - Screamer - Modified Watcher
    Soldier 76 - Vampire Vigi - Kills people (with a penalty for killing townies)

    So we have a mixed bag of standard roles (doctor/killing) with a mixture of oddities (heckler/modified watcher)

    We also have a cop somewhere in the mix that can send messages.

    Onto the unclaimed:
    Listo95
    Marack
    Virothe
    Xanjori

    In here we have a cop and a mafian. Which probably means we have a liar/semi-liar amongst the claimed people.

    Allowyn has been verified by following dupti
    Jynx's yelling has been verified.
    Dupti has been verified via heckling
    Graeham has been verified by dranx's death.

    And here's my verification:

    The night actions:

    2) Celtic209 - Town Doctor
    N1 - Doc Save Virothe (1 Death)
    N2 - Doc Save Arialla - Vest Pops (0 Deaths)
    N3 - Doc Saved Ret (1 Death)
    N4 - Doc Saved Allowyn (1 Death)
    N5 - Doc Saved ??? (2 Deaths)

    7) Soldier 76 [Graeham] - Vampiric Vigilante
    N1 - Krayzy (Didn't die)(1 Death)
    N2 - Celtic (Vest Pops) (0 Deaths)
    N3 - Dranx (Scum dies)(1 Death)
    N4 - Virothe (Doesn't die) (1 Death)

    Night 1 - Krayzy was targeted for a kill but didn't die. I didn't protect him so why did he live?

    Night 2 - Nobody died. Graeham targetted me which leaves the mafia kill. Mafia must have targeted Arialla OR a player who visited Ret.

    So either mafia targeted the claimed TPR or Dupti (who visited Ret on that night)

    N3 - Graeham targeted Dranx (scum who died) which again leaves the mafia kill. Mafia must have targeted Reticence or a player who visited Reticence.

    So either mafia targeted Reticence, who killed Danner; Targeted Dupti who visited Reticence or Targeted Me who also visited Reticence

    N4 - Virothe was targeted for a kill but didn't die. I didn't protect him so why did he live?

    So either Mafia tried double tapping Dupti at the exact times he visited Reticence or else I saved at least one person. Ergo Im telling the truth

  13. #773
    Hm that was a good post.

    I've been thinking about this for a while and I honestly only want people who have already claimed to answer this for obvious reasons. Do you believe the cop should reveal?

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    I also received a message about largehorn smelling

  15. #775
    Use: Security Camera

    Someone gave me one last night.

    I'll be back in about an hour or so to share my thoughts.

  16. #776
    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic209 View Post



    N4 - Virothe was targeted for a kill but didn't die. I didn't protect him so why did he live?

    So either Mafia tried double tapping Dupti at the exact times he visited Reticence or else I saved at least one person. Ergo Im telling the truth
    While I do feel much better about you after this post, I do however have to correct you. This is not true, because they could've attacked someone else who visited Reticence. Crackle was also a roleblocker so it is also possible he blocked some of Graeham's kills, which could explain why Kryllian didn't die n1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic209 View Post
    I also received a message about largehorn smelling
    Oh he actually gave you the real message, great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    Use: Security Camera

    Someone gave me one last night.

    I'll be back in about an hour or so to share my thoughts.
    What does it do?

  17. #777
    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic209 View Post
    N4 - Virothe was targeted for a kill but didn't die. I didn't protect him so why did he live?
    It's a secret to everybody.

    Also I'm magic.

    Also also A magician never reveals his secrets! (Especially when he doesn't know them himself)

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    On that note as well, who tried to kill me this time? O_O WAS IT GRAEM AND I JUST MISSED IT!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virothe View Post
    It's a secret to everybody.

    Also I'm magic.

    Also also A magician never reveals his secrets! (Especially when he doesn't know them himself)

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    On that note as well, who tried to kill me this time? O_O WAS IT GRAEM AND I JUST MISSED IT!?!
    It was Grahaem and you missed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupti View Post
    While I do feel much better about you after this post, I do however have to correct you. This is not true, because they could've attacked someone else who visited Reticence. Crackle was also a roleblocker so it is also possible he blocked some of Graeham's kills, which could explain why Kryllian didn't die n1.
    I'll take the correction on number one. But that means a power role visited Ret that night and they have yet to reveal themselves (as far as I can tell)

    On point 2 that means I have to re-evaluate my trust of Virothe.

    I trust him mostly on the basis that I possibly saved him from a kill meaning, that there's a better chance he was town. However with the roleblocker point, this pretty much scuppers my trust of him

  19. #779
    Wait, scratch that I can answer that. I visited Ret N4, I got him and Kray's stuff mixed up in my head -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupti View Post
    Hm that was a good post.

    I've been thinking about this for a while and I honestly only want people who have already claimed to answer this for obvious reasons. Do you believe the cop should reveal?
    Nah. They are playing a smart game for the moment and barring some circumstantial evidence that will out scum, the cop is better staying hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virothe View Post
    Wait, scratch that I can answer that. I visited Ret N4, I got him and Kray's stuff mixed up in my head -_-
    Well you've claimed partially. Wanna do the full monty?

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