Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses

[PC2]

What we do know though from the data is that minorities are far more likely to feel the boot.

Correlation does not equal causation.

[Wells]

You still haven't told me what policy it is, sweetheart. Almost like it's bullshit.

Never claimed there was one. You're doing a terrible job of reading these posts.

I understand that government agents do occasionally kill people, however the vast majority of the North Korean government departments and workers do not murder people. The blame lies on the executive decision maker and on the physical murderer.

Does anyone really believe you'd have a problem with the claim "The Saudi government is terrible towards women"? You backed yourself into a ridiculous corner.

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Correlation does not equal causation.

Yeah, total random chance that black people suffer so much more under drug laws than white people despite the same rate of drug use.

[lockedout]

You're basing this math off of numbers that even law enforcement will tell you are unreliable at best. We don't really know for sure how many people are shot and killed. We don't really know for sure how many "interactions" there are. Or how many complaints. Or how many are valid etc etc.

The lack of transparency and record keeping is one of the biggest complaints among those who want reform.

What we do know though from the data is that minorities are far more likely to feel the boot.

You just said we don't know anything because of the lack of transparency but then go on to say minorities feel the boot? How do we have those numbers?

[7-4]

You're basing this math off of numbers that even law enforcement will tell you are unreliable at best.

I'm using the only data we have. What the fuck data are you using to claim I'm wrong?

What we do know though from the data is that minorities are far more likely to feel the boot.

[citation required]

Edit: Put sources in earlier comment.

I'm just going to leave this here;

[Dextroden]

Never claimed there was one. You're doing a terrible job of reading these posts.


Does anyone really believe you'd have a problem with the claim "The Saudi government is terrible towards women"? You backed yourself into a ridiculous corner.

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Yeah, total random chance that black people suffer so much more under drug laws than white people despite the same rate of drug use.

Okay. Good to know all those government policies oppressing minorities are garbage lies. Thanks for giving up Wells.

[Wells]

You just said we don't know anything because of the lack of transparency but then go on to say minorities feel the boot? How do we have those numbers?

We have arrest rates. We don't know final absolute numbers for sure, but we can easily compare known rates.

[citation required]

Did you really not know this?





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Okay. Good to know all those government policies oppressing minorities are garbage lies. Thanks for giving up Wells.

One day you'll gain a notable degree of reading comprehension. Be sure to PM me when you do.

[Dextroden]

We have arrest rates. We don't know final absolute numbers for sure, but we can easily compare known rates.

Did you really not know this?





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One day you'll gain a notable degree of reading comprehension. Be sure to PM me when you do.

And you'll stop making up tales of oppression that you or a trash can like Kaepernick can never back up.

[PaladinBash]

So he chooses to disrespect his nation? That's fine really. It only reflects on his own lack of character.

[Bapestar]

Okay. Good to know all those government policies oppressing minorities are garbage lies. Thanks for giving up Wells.

You would have to be very stupid or in denial, to say the oppression of minorities are garbage lies.

[lockedout]

We have arrest rates. We don't know final absolute numbers for sure, but we can easily compare known rates.

I thought you said:

You're basing this math off of numbers that even law enforcement will tell you are unreliable at best.

[PC2]

Yeah, total random chance that black people suffer so much more under drug laws than white people despite the same rate of drug use.

No there are multiple reasons. Black communities tend to be poorer and have lower education rates which leads to more intense crime and thus more intense enforcement scrutiny.

[Oneirophobia]

Why doesn't he protest by not taking money from the NFL who plays the anthem in the first place? Donate his entire paycheck to BLM.

Because that would actually accomplish something, and in general celebrities are always keen to work towards a cause as long as it doesn't affect their pocket books much.

[Wells]

I thought you said:

There's a pretty obvious difference between comparing rates and talking about absolute values

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No there are multiple reasons. Black communities tend to be poorer and have lower education rates which leads to more intense crime and thus more intense scrutiny.

Drug usage rates are the same

[Dextroden]

You would have to be very stupid or in denial, to say the oppression of minorities are garbage lies.

I'm still waiting on those policies then, if they actually exists enlighten me, OH Wise One.

[Wells]

I'm still waiting on those policies then, if they actually exists enlighten me, OH Wise One.

You wanna start with near history or just jump in at the beginning?

[PC2]

Drug usage rates are the same

There are many parameters and drug usage rate isn't the most important factor in getting caught. Economics of the neighborhood is the most important factor.

[Wells]

There are many parameters and drug usage rate isn't the most important factor in getting caught. Economics of the neighborhood is the most important factor.

Do you have any mitigating factors a little more.....solid than this? Because despite nearly identical usage rates the arrest rates are ridiculously skewed against black people.

[Nadiru]

BLM, Clinton's alt-right speech, and by extension, Colin Kaepernick's choice to not stand for the flag, are all the result of a government-and-media-collusion regime that has run its course.

The middle has fragmented into individuals. Unreachable individuals. Totally inoculated from the partisans, because of social networks. You see, when you disagree with someone, you don't have to physically move yourself anymore. You just block a person. The end. Do this hundreds of times... block a post here or there... And you create an echo chamber of things you like. Which means there is no way to rally that middle to attack enemy partisans. This is how the right lost in the 1950s. They let the socialists rally the common emotional ground (with the help of highly consolidated mass media) with the unaligned to pound the right into submission. The right still hasn't recovered from that. A small group of partisans amplified their influence by winning over the unaligned. Those small groups became the owners and savants of media outlets today.

The left didn't physically exterminate the right. They still exist. So the left has to add more and more power and urgency to their mass media narrative. This is done to stave off diminishing returns of the true believer. But the paradox is that the number of true enemies has dwindled to nothingness. The mass media engine is so hysterical about saving itself that it is exerting tremendous amounts of energy to attack like 4 racist people in Georgia. This is just diminishing returns. The DNC has worked overtime to include more minorities to scale to. Gays, Muslims, etc. Just to have new contexts to repeat their success. But it hasn't been working so well. The power structure the left invented can no longer rally the mass unaligned with siren songs of positivity and peace to steer them against the right. The older conservatives, what the alt-right call 'cuckservatives' still fear the lash of the last 40 years. But the alt right has no reference for it. Without it, the alt right is realizing there is nothing actually stopping them.

Maybe look into a guy named Cass Sunstein and what he wrote in the mid-2000s and what he's been doing. All of this is basically straight from his playbook.

[Dextroden]

You wanna start with near history or just jump in at the beginning?

Tick tock.

[lockedout]

We have arrest rates. We don't know final absolute numbers for sure, but we can easily compare known rates.

Did you really not know this?





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What are you trying to prove with these 2 charts that obviously leave out all variables?