This expansion looks like a huge step forward

[Kokolums]

So unless the game goes exactly back to the 12 year old systems and WC3 engine bolt-ons that made up Vanilla, it's a disaster? Vanilla is gone, bud, get over it.

You have no reading comprehension. They can implement whatever systems they want but the requirement is a very strong and robust in-game community. The things I mentioned help turn WoW into a single player game.

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If they roll out a "vanilla" server and they bolted on LFR and there's no global chat, I'm not playing it, because they would have completely missed what made vanilla great.

[Mafic]

WoD was a failed experiment from blizz, they made promises regarding flight that they didn't keep, prior to WoD i was a completionist, doing close to every achieve out there (rated pvp only up to 2.2k achieves, mythic raiding, 23655 achieve points and haven't done anything since halfway through hfc) , lvling all alts to max, in WoD the absence of flight and the garrison implementation made me hate doing anything apart from raiding, to the point that the game started to disgust me. So yes, absence of flight= absence of my money.

Agreed as I am at that same point as well.

I am sitting it out until Blizzard improves the game as Legion is currently incomplete.

[Zoneseek]

There has been threads like this for every single expansion, lol. Its like deja vu.

[Deleted]

I'm curious how someone can suggest this when the game hasn't even been out for 24 hours yet...

I'm not saying it's good or bad, but come on now...

Well as someone who have been in Legion since alpha, I still think it is the best expansion since TbC. Keep in mind I was playing vanilla wow before it was released - yay for beta testing
I know, there are still content patches being made, but if they keep the quality of the release version of Legion, it might end being the best expansion to date- at least that is my own opinion, and others might.disagree which is fine with me.

[DarkAmbient]

Not saying you're wrong OP, but less than 24 hours after the launch of an expansion isn't the time to be making that call.

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Not saying you're wrong OP, but less than 24 hours after the launch of an expansion isn't the time to be making that call.

And I'd say that I already got my money's worth just for the questing experience alone.

[Deathquoi]

You have no reading comprehension. They can implement whatever systems they want but the requirement is a very strong and robust in-game community. The things I mentioned help turn WoW into a single player game.

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If they roll out a "vanilla" server and they bolted on LFR and there's no global chat, I'm not playing it, because they would have completely missed what made vanilla great.

So global chat (which never existed apart from a brief stint as the Looking For Group channel) and getting rid of the LFG tool would Make WoW Great Again? Waiting hours with 4/5s of a group spamming trade looking for a healer sure was fun!

[Markhan]

Gotta say one thing that really can't be argued by anyone except for the most diabolical of haters: Blizzard did a pretty good job of a solid, no dc, shit-free (except for the Huln quest in Highmountain) launch. Smoothest launch of an expansion in awhile. Maybe ever. Great job, Blizzard. You can keep taking my money.

[Hyral]

You know the most magic moments I had (solo)? Whenever I was required by a very important NPC to do something. To matter as a little guy (but seasoned adventurer) to a major Lore character. The times that Bolvar Fordragon, Tirion etc asked me to do stuff. That was amazing. I felt like I mattered to the story but would not be the main player of it. Because that would be the major lore character. And it was your job to have that major lore character see the objective through.
So if you later read a book or something about the story in WoW... you can still read it like you were there in the backround.

I absolutely felt this in Dragonblight. From the moment you step into Wintergarde everything is so grim and hopeless, you do your best to aid the situation and make a difference but you still can't help losing comrades and ground, but all throughout you keep hearing the others talk about Bolvar. We have to hold on for Bolvar, once the Highlord comes back everything will be ok, he is gonna make things right, he will bring the Light with him, you'll see! And near the end, when we are ready to face off against the lich Thel'zan and we are overpowered by his magic, utterly hopeless, what happens? There he is, storming through the entrance of the crypt, his roar like thunder and his presence bolstering every soldier in that room. His words alone break the lich's spell and he commands us to victory. That feeling of being a soldier in the awe inspiring presence of something so much larger than yourself.

That's gone now.

[Mafic]

Gotta say one thing that really can't be argued by anyone except for the most diabolical of haters: Blizzard did a pretty good job of a solid, no dc, shit-free (except for the Huln quest in Highmountain) launch. Smoothest launch of an expansion in awhile. Maybe ever. Great job, Blizzard. You can keep taking my money.

That isn't true because we have yet to see paek playing times yet.

[Nethlord]

Do I even care? Not really, being the head of my class (Warlock) was akin to someone saying I was way after the fact (and after being dead for most of it). It was just tossed out there....

"Oh, hey, so all of the original group is dead, you're the leader now...."

"Umm, yea great....there's noone here."

Being the "Chosen one" is a tacked on notion really, I literally couldn't care less.

[Tart]

Absolutely horrendous lag on Kazzak eu right now.

[Bumkin]

As Blizzard has finished their biggest project which was Overwatch they have switched alot of resources to WoW and it's noticeable, i really hope blizz will continue to invest in wow for many years to come because its an amazing game

[tyrlaan]

WoD was a failed experiment from blizz, they made promises regarding flight that they didn't keep, prior to WoD i was a completionist, doing close to every achieve out there (rated pvp only up to 2.2k achieves, mythic raiding, 23655 achieve points and haven't done anything since halfway through hfc) , lvling all alts to max, in WoD the absence of flight and the garrison implementation made me hate doing anything apart from raiding, to the point that the game started to disgust me. So yes, absence of flight= absence of my money.

You can't possibly be serious.

However assuming that you are actually serious, if no flight until later is a deal breaker for you, I feel like playing WoW probably isn't good for your health regardless.

[Theoris]

We will see. So far things look great!
I do feel a little apprehensive, though I suspect that's because the expansion has just started.

[Ealyssa]

Been good so far. WOD was amazing for a month or so though. I will wait and see. It will mostly be up to how often they add content.

This.

Wod at launch was awesome. It's up to blizzard to give content during the whole expansion. If not it will become the same bore fest WoD was.

[Saffa]

I hate this as well. It started in Wrath with the first quest and they're like 'oh hey it's you, we heard about how awesome you are'.

But some people need that, they have bad parents or no friends, so Blizzard feels it's necessary to make them feel good about themselves.

Or they are simply quite young and need to feel important. Some of us, happy with who we are irl, do not need the make believe.

[Sencha]

If it was so good you would be playing it and not spend your time on MMO-c.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I absolutely felt this in Dragonblight. From the moment you step into Wintergarde everything is so grim and hopeless, you do your best to aid the situation and make a difference but you still can't help losing comrades and ground, but all throughout you keep hearing the others talk about Bolvar. We have to hold on for Bolvar, once the Highlord comes back everything will be ok, he is gonna make things right, he will bring the Light with him, you'll see! And near the end, when we are ready to face off against the lich Thel'zan and we are overpowered by his magic, utterly hopeless, what happens? There he is, storming through the entrance of the crypt, his roar like thunder and his presence bolstering every soldier in that room. His words alone break the lich's spell and he commands us to victory. That feeling of being a soldier in the awe inspiring presence of something so much larger than yourself.

That's gone now.

You are Bolivar now. You bust in and save people, being awesome. You wield ancient relics. You are the awesome hero.

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LuL added difficulty? Not lolike i am pulling mob packs per 10 and 5 shoting them with my aoe. Rares are so easy to kill also. I just went into my first dungeon and it was so piss easy. Everything els is perfect but difficulty just isnt there.