Is there catch up for alts on 110 content?

[Maoli]

There was a catch up mechanic for experience on the beta but not every tester experienced it. I was able to level a couple alts within two zones.

[pansertjald]

Treasures give 0 XP.

They give 8k XP. Not much, but they do give XP

[Deleted]

They give 8k XP. Not much, but they do give XP

No they don't.



See how I first kill a bunch of mobs, gain XP from them, and loot them? Then I loot a treasure. I get the order resources, the actual AP treasure, and some vendor shite. Where's the XP?

Treasures give 0 XP.

[Gemini Soul]

Just do enough to open WQ's on atls and your fine, but clear as much as you can on main.

[Arcrin]

I know this sounds like a hard spill, but you sadly have to play the game on all your other characters. Blizzard have been very direct with their alt design in Legion and that is, that you should not see alts as a 2nd state character compared to your main, but as a secoundary character, who can stand on its own. There will proberly be some nerfs to reps in the future, but right now, if it takes 150 hours of work on 1 character to get them up to speed, it will take 150 hours on the 2nd character aswell.

But if you really like alting then this should not be a problem If you find having to play through the content again quite hardsome, then write to Blizzard about their content, not their vision on altfriendlyness.

not even close, i did all of suramar, already honored at 1900 ancient mana capacity and 839 ilvl in half the time you mention. only thing i can do from now on that character is farm more mythics for titantforged/crafting gear.

[anon5123]

just wait for flying ( like dreanor it could be shared on you account), with rested xp just fly around and hunt treasures, you will be max in no time.

I thought treasures didn't give EXP?

At least, none of the treasures I found gave EXP, just vendor trash and small AP items.

[Blade Wolf]

No they don't.



See how I first kill a bunch of mobs, gain XP from them, and loot them? Then I loot a treasure. I get the order resources, the actual AP treasure, and some vendor shite. Where's the XP?

Treasures give 0 XP.

Truth or atleast stop giving after a certain level. I got exp during the early levels but not at the later levels. Also for catch up mechanics you have the research notes getting faster and faster as we progress through the expansion and the crafting gear doesn't have a limit on how many pieces meaning you can get your alt fully decked in 815 at 110 and jump into hcs.

[Deleted]

I got exp during the early levels

I don't remember getting any but I could be mistaken. Must only be from 100 to 101 then, or something like that.

[Arkenaw]

I know this sounds like a hard spill, but you sadly have to play the game on all your other characters. Blizzard have been very direct with their alt design in Legion and that is, that you should not see alts as a 2nd state character compared to your main, but as a secoundary character, who can stand on its own. There will proberly be some nerfs to reps in the future, but right now, if it takes 150 hours of work on 1 character to get them up to speed, it will take 150 hours on the 2nd character aswell.

But if you really like alting then this should not be a problem If you find having to play through the content again quite hardsome, then write to Blizzard about their content, not their vision on altfriendlyness.

This is idiotic and makes no sense. Whether blizzard actually said or feels this way, alts increase how long someone stays subbed so it makes no sense for them to gate alts. In fact I've already considered unsubbing at the thought of not being able to fly on my alts after doing everything on my main.

[randomnamegenerator16]

If I've done most of the 110 stuff already on a main like reps and quests in suramar will there be a an option to not going through all of that again?

Expansion was out 4 days ago and you want catch up mechanics for alts already? Wtf?

[Arkenaw]

Expansion was out 4 days ago and you want catch up mechanics for alts already? Wtf?

And why is that a problem exactly? If it's a mechanic only available for someone that's already done it, there's no harm in letting alts also do it.

[pansertjald]

No they don't.



See how I first kill a bunch of mobs, gain XP from them, and loot them? Then I loot a treasure. I get the order resources, the actual AP treasure, and some vendor shite. Where's the XP?

Treasures give 0 XP.

Next time you loot a treasure, then look at your screen. The Nr. 8000 XP comes. It doesn't say in the chat log, but it comes on your screen and if you look at you xp bar, it moves a little

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I don't remember getting any but I could be mistaken. Must only be from 100 to 101 then, or something like that.

I got 8000 XP every time at lvl 109

[ablib]

Something must be bugged then, because I get 0 XP from treasures in Legion. I'm only 101, so this was from level 100-101.


Edit: Actually from what I'm reading on the forums regarding this, it appears not all treasures give XP, only some do. It's unclear if this is intended or a bug, can't find a blue comment on it.

[Ealyssa]

Treasures give 0 xp, that's a fact.

[Deleted]

Next time you loot a treasure, then look at your screen. The Nr. 8000 XP comes. It doesn't say in the chat log, but it comes on your screen and if you look at you xp bar, it moves a little

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I got 8000 XP every time at lvl 109

No such numbers. I don't know where you're getting them but I am not.

[rayden54]

I know this sounds like a hard spill, but you sadly have to play the game on all your other characters. Blizzard have been very direct with their alt design in Legion and that is, that you should not see alts as a 2nd state character compared to your main, but as a secoundary character, who can stand on its own. There will proberly be some nerfs to reps in the future, but right now, if it takes 150 hours of work on 1 character to get them up to speed, it will take 150 hours on the 2nd character aswell.

They'll change their minds after a while. They always have. I just hope they do so sooner rather than later. I'd actually like to try Legion, but I won't pay for an expansion until they back off. Especially not one that seems determined to gate everything behind a bunch of quests (my least favorite part of the game).

Not after I got burned with Cataclysm. Spend 3 hours wiping in dungeon for nothing but a few JP. Even when I managed to slog through that, they'd pretty much killed casual raiding. Unfortunately, it took them until the very last patch to change their minds. I played maybe three months outta the whole Expansion. Would up costing a lot of money for very little fun.

[Deleted]

And why is that a problem exactly? If it's a mechanic only available for someone that's already done it, there's no harm in letting alts also do it.

There's two types of people who are usually opposed to this. People for whom leveling characters is the only thing they do and those who pretty much just have one character. In both cases it's quite clear why they're opposed to it/think it's pointless.

Personally I think it's the most alt unfriendly expansion yet. Heck they even set out to wreck your off specc for no good reason. Coupled with the horrid scaling mechanic they opted for and that permeates the entire game even if it makes zero sense messing up things such as Archaeology a lot of this bodes ill in the long run.

The expansion is still new, the awe and new things still overshadow it's flaws but as the glamour and excitement will start to wane these problems will come more and more into the foreground.

[Lochton]

Seriously, we haven't even cleared the first week of the expansion yet.

Indeed, which is why it is way too early.

[pansertjald]

No such numbers. I don't know where you're getting them but I am not.

I don't know why you are not getting any XP. My hunter is now lvl 104 and he is getting XP every time i loot a treasure

[Flurryfang]

Do you have any Blizzard comments on this? Not trying to disprove you. I'm just interested in reading what they said about alts in Legion.

Look up the offical interview with Ion "Watcher" from some weeks ago, and also the fatboss interview with him at gamescom. I think that is where he talks about why they have done as they have done with character progression and why they have not added a catch-up mechanic. I think it was something about rewarding players, who only played 1 character, since they lost the flexibility of having multiple.

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not even close, i did all of suramar, already honored at 1900 ancient mana capacity and 839 ilvl in half the time you mention. only thing i can do from now on that character is farm more mythics for titantforged/crafting gear.

Then you are consuming content in an unsual high rate. I stayed up for around 2½ days after Legion launch and i got some good mythic gear and got some high rep, but if Blizzard makes the game suited for extreme players, then it will be overwhelming if you just play 4-6 hours a week xD When you are playing over 5 hours+ a day, then you can only expect to run out of content on a single character.

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This is idiotic and makes no sense. Whether blizzard actually said or feels this way, alts increase how long someone stays subbed so it makes no sense for them to gate alts. In fact I've already considered unsubbing at the thought of not being able to fly on my alts after doing everything on my main.

First of all, they are not gating alts. They are just making it so that there is equality for all your characters. Playing a 2nd character should not be a different experience just because you have a max lvl character already. It reduces the experience you get and makes it a worse experience for players, who just want to replay content with another class. If they made it easier to lvl or grind rep on an alt right after launch, then the lvling experience would quickly be reduced from a complete experience to a quick catch-up, where flow is completely thrown out of the window.

They will proberly add flying in the next patch together with some form of gear catch-up, so you just unsub undtil then If you don't like what blizz are doing, then nobody is forcing you to keep playing, but don't smack down on Blizzard just because they want to make a game which flows well for all characters. You are pretty much asking blizzard to throw out all their hardwork and put the game on easy-mode, since you have already a character in max lvl.