Huln Highmountain...

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Surely, in the actual events he had more buttons than 3 ! I loved the quest, especially how silly it looked when he swung his spear and did over million damage.

[Aurabolt]

The tauren needed a badass superhero character after the death of cairne and do-nothing that is Baine, so zip it and let the tauren have their badass superhero.

Someone never heard of GAMON, it seems.

[Kayb]

I was just stoked to see old Azshara we used to have instead of the horrid mess that it is today. Always have hated what they did to it in Cata.

[Al Gorefiend]

This shows why Huln is so rediculous, not to break any bubbles but all other top chars such as Arthas etc needed some time to even get to great power!
Huln the man was just there.. and one shots everything..

Just did a world quest in Val'Sharah that confirms the Tauren are just exaggerating the hell out of Huln. He was strong, but he wasn't uber-tier. He actually had a lot more help than what they lead us to believe.

[Zulkhan]

Just did a world quest in Val'Sharah that confirms the Tauren are just exaggerating the hell out of Huln. He was strong, but he wasn't uber-tier. He actually had a lot more help than what they lead us to believe.

The point of the quest wasn't even overhyping Huln anyway. The way he was ultimately depicted was the one of an "ordinary" warrior (albeit a particularly strong one) who stood in defiance of whatever threat he had to face, no matter how much in doubt or even terrified he could have been. Indeed he received help, but still spearheaded and served as main pushing force against apparently insurmountable threats.

While the story shows Huln as an unbelievably exceptional warrior, he's ultimately praised and took as example for his strength as a leader.

[Sandrox]

Everything about Huln and the Highmountain Tauren in this expansion is terrible.

[nnelson54]

There was a Highmountain death knight in the Ebon Blade during Wrath IIRC.

He's even back in the Order Hall in Legion. Trag Highmountain.

[Alanar]

You're just jelly of his meme potential!

I mean, the 50 Hulns tearing Tichondrius apart is something I'll remember for quite some time.

Combined with all the Vo at that point!

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Just did a world quest in Val'Sharah that confirms the Tauren are just exaggerating the hell out of Huln. He was strong, but he wasn't uber-tier. He actually had a lot more help than what they lead us to believe.

Off topic here,but in the storyline the worst thing that happend was at Darkul the Underking when that spiritwalker who was with you throught the WHOLE thing bails the fuck out! lmao

The immersion was already ruined when I stepped through the portal right on top of 5706 corpes of this one boss.

[Trassk]

You're just jelly of his meme potential!

I mean, the 50 Hulns tearing Tichondrius apart is something I'll remember for quite some time.

That was Hulns real power, to spawn endless versions of his awesomeness

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Everything about Huln and the Highmountain Tauren in this expansion is terrible.

Someone's jelly that his favourite race got no focus this expansion

[Mehrunes]

Everything about Huln and the Highmountain Tauren zone in this expansion is terrible.

Fixed it for you. Fuck Highmountain everything. Luckily they removed Artifacts getting additional powers when you recover each Pillar of Creation since I'm going to skip that shithole on my alts. Though fuck Huln in particular. While he did have help in Azshara, he still spearheaded the attack (with well, his actual spear), kicked Tichondrius' ass and his adventures with Deathwing had no such external help. And unlike Tenjen speculated on previous page, he's unlikely to have spent much time there since it was a covert operation that would go to hell if they fucked around in Neltharion's Lair to work things out. And doesn't explain his miraculous knowledge of the Titans. And they took one of Deathwing's most guarded treasures just like that, then not only defeated him, but banished him from the face of Azeroth for who knows how long.

And that quest... Why isn't something like that a solo scenario? They have the technology and seeing more Hulns than demons shits all over immersion, CPUs or ability to do the goddamn thing. Especially if you play opposite faction than the majority of your CRZ since tags aren't shared cross-faction.

Also, just gotta lol at Trassk admonishing people for disliking the thing he did like when most of his posting history on lore forum is doing the exact same things he now tells other people not to. Complaining about mary sues? Not just posts, he makes threads about that. Complaining about Metzen? Does the same with other lore devs. "Just accept something not making much sense"? Yup, also ironic. Complaining that specific race got no attention? Bingo, we've got irony bingo.

[Trassk]

And yet here you are, raging about a fictional character, where I grew up and give less of a shit these days, only calling out bad writing but not breaking a sweat over it. The only laughable thing is the way your haping on about it.

[Darth-Piekus]

Personally I loved Huln's story. It's obvious the Tauren overexxagerated his story but it doesn't really matter.

[micwini]

Just like in real life, his stories could be exaggerated. It was really long ago. No one was there. He's a legend. The stories are probably not 100% accurate.

[Zulkhan]

Fuck Highmountain everything.

Highmountain didn't strike any heartstring but I still enjoyed it more compared to, I don't know, Stormheim. Two main storylines, one boring as hell and the other rushed and messed up. I wanted to see the cinematic and that's it, but I don't think I'll ever waste time in it with any of my alts.

Also, you apparently need to be a fucking mountain goat to quest or hunt treasures around without dying 6 times on 10. All the harpoon jumping grows redundant and frustrating half way of the zone.

[Deleted]

I thought pretty much the same but I guess he only looks like that because it's Ebonhorn who tells us the story and he is exagerating by far.

Imagine Huln actually just stumbled through all of this, actually tried to smash the eggs and the magic of the hammer did the cleansing on it's own. It's very much like the 300 movie.

[Leyre]

Huln obviously used an Elder Scroll to banish Andui-er, Deathwing to our timeline

[Mehrunes]

Highmountain didn't strike any heartstring but I still enjoyed it more compared to, I don't know, Stormheim. Two main storylines, one boring as hell and the other rushed and messed up. I wanted to see the cinematic and that's it, but I don't think I'll ever waste time in it with any of my alts.

Also, you apparently need to be a fucking mountain goat to quest or hunt treasures around without dying 6 times on 10. All the harpoon jumping grows redundant and frustrating half way of the zone.

I actually liked harpoon jumping. And the cliffs in Stormheim, while plentiful, are much less deadly than the endless fucking mountains of Highmountain that in some places have sudden drops. And below them is abyss while in Stormheim it's other parts of the cliff since they are pretty jagged. Or just plenty of water (with river sharks, because that makes sense).

And speaking of treasures, the goddamn caves of Highmountain are absolute bullshit. Is this treasure in a cave? Welp, the addon doesn't mention anything here, but who knows for sure. And while some of the caves (even some smaller ones) have their own maps (which can be annoying in its own way) most don't. Including the ones with the worst layout like the Kobold cave.

The caves and the general layout of the zone is what irks me so much about it. Together with quest layout. In other zones the hubs with quests not counting for Loremaster are either at the location of the Loremaster quests, on your way there or at the bonus objectives areas. In Highmountain they are in fucking caves, in opposite direction of where you have to go to the main quests or (most likely) both.

Like said Kobold cave. The sky Tauren nearby wanted me to go north from their hub to fight some Harpies. Kobold cave was to the south and the only reason I found it was because I fell off the mountain trying to get a treasure. And that trend of having to go out of my way to the abundance of extra hubs that showed on my minimap, with the pathing being a complete mess, was frustrating as hell.

But speaking of story, it's just immensely boring. Oh, a new inexperienced Tauren leader of united Tauren tribes that has to step up after their father dies. Hello Baine, I mean Mayla. Oh, you need my help to bring the brutal and unfriendly Grimtotem back to the fold? What do you mean they are not named Grimtotem? See, they turned traitor, that looks like a Grimtotem to me.

Not a fan of Tauren in the first place, so having to go even through the main questline that was repetitive (bring that Tauren tribe to the fold, bring that, oh and don't forget these, with quests focusing either on Drogbar or Harpies) and redundant with playable Tauren in mind (and with the Tauren in question looking even more ridiculous) was a drag in and on itself.

And I don't even know what Drogbar are supposed to be, but since their only backstory is them being involved in Huln's bullshit with Deathwing and that they betrayed the Highmountain (kinda like Feltotem), I couldn't care much about them either.

EDIT: Oh, and worst escort quest ever. If that Tauren southeast of the main Tauren outpost would walk just a tiny bit slower she'd be rooted in place. It's a shame there was no option to throw her over the bridge and feed her slow, filthy, ridiculously moose-horned soul to Ulthalesh.

[Zulkhan]

I actually liked harpoon jumping. And the cliffs in Stormheim, while plentiful, are much less deadly than the endless fucking mountains of Highmountain that in some places have sudden drops. And below them is abyss while in Stormheim it's other parts of the cliff since they are pretty jagged. Or just plenty of water (with river sharks, because that makes sense).

I don't know, I didn't find the huge drops much problematic because I generally found them quite predictable. But Stormheim and especially the zone where you recruit the Thorignir drove me insane. To hunt treasures without going up and down every now and then I should have equipped myself for proper bungee jumping (and ironic enough, you actually do that with a rope of fucking worms in Highmountain) because more often than not I accidentally fell by hilariously huge heigths and only when I was lucky I ended up on water higher than 4 feet. It was a constant series of cliffs above cliffs above other cliffs. One of the worst questing experiences I had since Vashj'ir.

But speaking of story, it's just immensely boring. Oh, a new inexperienced Tauren leader of united Tauren tribes that has to step up after their father dies. Hello Baine, I mean Mayla.

Yeah, that felt like a rip off indeed. To the point that I'm half expecting Blizzard eventually hooking these characters up. Calling it now.

Not a fan of Tauren in the first place, so having to go even through the main questline that was repetitive (bring that Tauren tribe to the fold, bring that, oh and don't forget these, with quests focusing either on Drogbar or Harpies) and redundant with playable Tauren in mind (and with the Tauren in question looking even more ridiculous) was a drag in and on itself.

I got similar feelings with Stormheim. Havi seemed a fucking Pandaren in disguise, feeling obviously enlightened by the fact that he was voiced by the same actor who voiced Lorewalker Cho, regardless of his occasional, somewhat desperate attempts to sound more Vrykul than Pandaren. The fact that he was ultimately revealed to be Odyn himself made it even more off-putting. The trials were pretty much about fighting a dumb Titan construct, befriend some slightly distrustful native creatures that turn into our best friends once we save their asses from your usual tyrant who wants to enslave them all (because if you want to mark someone as bad in WoW slavery always work) doing quests for a fucking tree I have no idea what was that and why it was able to talk to begin with, defeating some legends of the past to prove our worth (never saw that ever) and ofcourse the final battle where you foil the Legion's plans and fight King Ymiron 2.0 (but hey, he deals with fel rather than zombies and necromancy, totally refreshing) who gets rekted and flees at the last moment with that "I'll get ya next time!" kind of attitude after he spent half of the zone taunting us. Of course, happy ending with just that obvious reminder "there's still Skovald to deal with, go and do your first 5-man dungeon".

Mind you, remarkable originality isn't among the expectations I ever had from Blizzard, but I don't remember the last time when that "gosh, this is the same exact shit with different faces/models/places" feeling stroke me so damn hard. Can't surgically point my finger at something in particular, but the overall sensation was all on that direction.

The Sylvanas/Genn arc wasn't that better either. It starts quick and fun only to die off and pop up at the very end with barely even knowing what's going on: Sylvanas appearing at Helheim out of nowhere with no clue of how she got there and 100% unrelated with everything we had to do in that place (speaking of Helheim, a literal hell if you play in a PvP server, don't know if it's just the beginning of the expansion or an actual atrocious design) which consisted in getting out of there with the help of Ashildir and her Shieldmaidens, only to butcher them 5 minutes later when you start doing quests for Sylvanas popping out of nowhere again, all of them on the aggressive (for Alliance players too) despite the fact that we got the unquestioned favor of their very queen. Even better, that very queen doesn't give a fuck when you summon her before Eyir's vault after you butchered your way to her altar by washing your hands in her Shieldmaidens' blood. Or the fact that you were supposed to "meet your destiny" in there (Ashildir's own words) yet somehow ignoring that we planned to bring a Banshee with us who struck a deal with freaking Helya to enslave Eyir. Ofcourse, our "destiny" consisted into magically disappear (literally, we enter the vault on Sylvanas's side just for the cinematic utterly erasing our existence). Even assuming (key word) that Ashildir was okay with all of this because of lack of understanding/communication or due to the "prowess in battle is all so everything's fine" kind of dumb mentality, it still looked hilarious and nonsensical as hell. Furthermore, you feel quite a huge gap between entering Eyir's vault and the cinematic, everything feels quite rushed and you barely have any idea of what went on until you don't read the freaking quest reward at the very end and see what this damn "Soulcage" was and why Sylvanas possessed it.

It was half a bore and half a mess to me. And I didn't find the zone visually appealing either (unlike Highmountain, which I at least enjoyed from that point of view).

EDIT: Oh, and worst escort quest ever. If that Tauren southeast of the main Tauren outpost would walk just a tiny bit slower she'd be rooted in place.

She even complains when you walk too fast and praise you when you slow down. It felt like a deliberate sadistic intent from Blizzard.

It's a shame there was no option to throw her over the bridge and feed her slow, filthy, ridiculously moose-horned soul to Ulthalesh.

Speaking of Artifact weapons, I never got used to how every Tauren of Highmountain bowed down to me for being the wielder of Talonclaw (levelling my Hunter as Survival). Wherever I went there was always some guard saying something about that.

[Hawthorne Wipes]

To me, the intention with this questline was to tell an epopey about the tauren hero, with the basic epic tales stuff that surrounds it..
He got a a powerful magic weapon.
He makes friendship with a powerful exotic animal.
He gets recognised and unite the people of the land.
He's also best friend with a character from other race.
He beats the bad guy.

The moment that moose starts following you, I couldn't help to think about Paul Bunyan.
Tons of stories exactly like these.

[Arrashi]

I got similar feelings with Stormheim. Havi seemed a fucking Pandaren in disguise, feeling obviously enlightened by the fact that he was voiced by the same actor who voiced Lorewalker Cho, regardless of his occasional, somewhat desperate attempts to sound more Vrykul than Pandaren.

That really rustled my jimmies too. I mean for fuck sake, this guy voiced master in fallout, did he got senile in his old days ? They should had hired the narrator from darkest dungeon for that role.

Then again for me neither stormheim nor highmountain were half as traimatic as val, where hostile gang is doing druidic takeover and killin my homies. They even gave some weird crack to ysera.