How can people say now that Sylvanas isnt evil ?

[Mehrunes]

I know but I could have sworn it was a modified version of the original.

Yeah just looked it up: http://wow.gamepedia.com/New_Plague

Yes, but it was modified specifically to be used against the Scourge. By taking the main advantage of the Scourge, i.e. effectively immortal soldiers.

[Deleted]

Yes, but it was modified specifically to be used against the Scourge. By taking the main advantage of the Scourge, i.e. effectively immortal soldiers.

Did they even ever used it against the Scourge?

[frogger237]

Yes, but it was modified specifically to be used against the Scourge. By taking the main advantage of the Scourge, i.e. effectively immortal soldiers.

My point is tho that they should have some of the original strain somewhere as it was used to create the new plague.

Besides don't the valkyr only die if the try resing Sylvanas or someone else crazy powerful? Her people can always live on, just not her.

Also aren't undead forced to go to some shitty afterlife? By raising more people shes fucking them over in the long run.

[Mehrunes]

Did they even ever used it against the Scourge?

Yes, in Dragonblight. And against Scourge-affiliated Vrykul in Howling Fjord.

My point is tho that they should have some of the original strain somewhere as it was used to create the new plague.

They got very little of that. Some spores and the like from Naxxramas, with it being unknown if the Apothecaries even knew what they were working on since it was Varimathras going against everyone's back, and whatever they managed to salvage from Scourge invasion pre-WotLK.

[Traveler Voltin]

It was a weapon that disabled their natural regeneration capabilities.
A real life equivalent would be a bomb that sends out radiation to destroy the immune system.
Don't we classify those as biological weapons?

yes it would be a bio weapon.
which is way more dangerous than a bomb.

[Friendlyimmolation]

My point is tho that they should have some of the original strain somewhere as it was used to create the new plague.

Besides don't the valkyr only die if the try resing Sylvanas or someone else crazy powerful? Her people can always live on, just not her.

Also aren't undead forced to go to some shitty afterlife? By raising more people shes fucking them over in the long run.

Probably because the Forsaken distinguish themselves on not being scourge, part of that means not using the Plague of undeath, something they punish with death

As for dying, they can die if someone kills them.

And considering we see citizens of Darrowshire ascend to WoW heaven or whatever when you kill their undead forms, I'd say they're fine. If their soul is ripped apart maybe that could send them to the void when they die, only to have their soul whole again and experience the void or whatever. Or it could be something else.

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It was a weapon that disabled their natural regeneration capabilities.
A real life equivalent would be a bomb that sends out radiation to destroy the immune system.
Don't we classify those as biological weapons?

Weren't the Trolls on a genocidal conquest against the High Elves, while the humans had to expect that they would have to suffer the same fate?

[Combatbutler]

Weren't the Trolls on a genocidal conquest against the High Elves, while the humans had to expect that they would have to suffer the same fate?

Yep they intended to wipe out the high elves, since they wanted to reestablish their empires and as such tried to take their ancient land back, which meant killing those dwelling on it. Which meant humans and high elves

[Deleted]

Yep they intended to wipe out the high elves, since they wanted to reestablish their empires and as such tried to take their ancient land back, which meant killing those dwelling on it. Which meant humans and high elves

Did they ever tried to talk with them, ask them to search another place to live at before they started a genocidal conquest?

[Maxilian]

I know but I could have sworn it was a modified version of the original.

Yeah just looked it up: http://wow.gamepedia.com/New_Plague

It is, but it doesn't ressurect people (they don't use that plague), they used to get their members from those that got liberated from the Scourge, but that doesn't happen much anymore... so yeah

[deveilblad]

Actually it is not, when u do things that is good for you and bad to others, u are evil. When u dont put your needs in first place, and tery to help other people, u are good. It is simple as that.

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Totally agree with you.

Natural selection would like to have a word with you...

[steelballfc]

It was a weapon that disabled their natural regeneration capabilities.
A real life equivalent would be a bomb that sends out radiation to destroy the immune system.
Don't we classify those as biological weapons?

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[Maxilian]

Probably because the Forsaken distinguish themselves on not being scourge, part of that means not using the Plague of undeath, something they punish with death

As for dying, they can die if someone kills them.

And considering we see citizens of Darrowshire ascend to WoW heaven or whatever when you kill their undead forms, I'd say they're fine. If their soul is ripped apart maybe that could send them to the void when they die, only to have their soul whole again and experience the void or whatever. Or it could be something else.

I think the citizens of Darrowshire case is not the same as the Forsaken case, we know that the Forsaken soul is corrupted and its now part of that undead body, so if they die, they will most likely retain their undead forms.

[steelballfc]

@Kangodo
A Weapon of mass-destruction

[Maxilian]

Did they ever tried to talk with them, ask them to search another place to live at before they started a genocidal conquest?

The Elves got attacked by the Trolls before they started building their city, they were just stubborn assholes (note: The main reason they went with it, its because in that place there was a huge rift of mana -something like that- so it was a perfect place to recreate the Well of Eternity -That thing we call now Sunwell-)

[steelballfc]

Did they ever tried to talk with them, ask them to search another place to live at before they started a genocidal conquest?

did the human "talk" to them, no for both side

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did the human "talk" to them, no for both side

In civilized countries, we say something before we shoot at people.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I think the citizens of Darrowshire case is not the same as the Forsaken case, we know that the Forsaken soul is corrupted and its now part of that undead body, so if they die, they will most likely retain their undead forms.

Its the same way the undeath of the scourge works. Your soul shackled to your body.

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In civilized countries, we say something before we shoot at people.

WoW isnt civil.

[Maxilian]

Its the same way the undeath of the scourge works. Your soul shackled to your body.

Yeah, but we know that when the Forsaken are ressurected, they go back to their undead form, because their soul belong to that undead body already, not sure if the same would apply to the Darrowshire people (also they were mindless undead mainly)

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In civilized countries, we say something before we shoot at people.

Warcraft is anything but civilized

[Aquamonkey]

In civilized countries, we say something before we shoot at people.

Why didn't the NElves say something to the orcs before shooting?