Why the antagonism towards promiscous women?

[swaggers]

It's just like those threads where people complain about undercutting in the AH- it's hard to justify your price when others are giving it away.

[Mayhem]

Because I don't think these women are relationship material.

Do you treat every woman bad if you think they´re not relationship material?

[Lyaelan]

Patriarchal and religious based society.

[Ragedaug]

It's because it's much more difficult to convince a bunch of women to sleep with you than it is to convince a bunch of men. It's so easy for women to get sex, some of them just stand on the side of the street and just wait for random men to drive along. They even charge for it, and the men will pay.

So that's the reason why. All a girl has to do is shout in a crowded room "I'd like some sex" and she'll have a bunch of folks standing by at the ready. There's nothing exceptional a women has to do and she doesn't have to look exceptional. A guy would have to be an exceptional alpha (or famous/rich) to make that work. Which is why if a guy does it, he's special. If a girl does it, meh.

So while the lock analogy is kinda cruddy, that's kinda supposed to be what it means.

[Sama-81]

I've always wondered who it is, exactly, that view men that sleep with many different girls in a positive light? Anecdotal as it may be, In all my years that's never been the case at least. Not among the popular guys, not among the unpopular ones, not among women, etc etc. There is of course usually a reason for why the ones that gets laid a lot manages to, and that reason is often also a reason to view them in a positive light (ie, good-looking, etc), but in my experience that is correlation only and as such largely a misconception. At the very least, one should really, really look at confounding factors before making such a general statement. Particularly so, when automatically drawing lengthy conclusions about gender roles from it.

[Mayhem]

Its a common analogy worldwide. becos well we have to insert our key and their locks get inserted.

That being said, yeah the girls = sluts, boys = playboy labels are not fair.

Yeah there's alot of things in this world that isn't fair. Like "alimony" if there's no children involved even.

It´s a common analogy that isn´t working anyhow you look at it, unless you believe male genitalia have some inherent powers that make women sleep with them.

[Deleted]

inb4 that retarded lock analogy.
It comes from guys who think girls are not allowed to enjoy themselves either.

No, it comes from people who understand how human courtship and sex works. But I can tell you fundamentally don't understand it if you think it's just about shaming women enjoying themselves, or praising the power of penis.

The anology just refers to the fact that women tend to have higher standards than men, men are more likely to be the initiators of any given encounter (and women often want them to be), and thus women are more likely to turn away multiple men in any given dating environment before they find someone suitable, than men are going to be turning away women. If you're the kind of guy that can pick up any woman you want, easily, it's noteworthy. It's not noteworthy when a sloot walks into a bar full of young horny guys and spreads her legs, because you don't even have to be attractive to have some success with it.

In the words of Amy Schumer: "I’m probably like 160 pounds right now and I can catch a dick whenever I want, like, that’s the truth. It’s not a problem!”

[Deleted]

I've always wondered who it is, exactly, that view men that sleep with many different girls in a positive light?

There's a lot of praise for the men who manage to sleep with a lot of girls at my school, at least if the girls are at least average or above...

[Ragedaug]

Patriarchal and religious based society.

Religious based society has a man sleeping with one woman...ever. They don't celebrate male sluts. The reason for this is more nature then religious. In nature females breed with the alphas. You see the same thing in humans when you see females getting worked up over alpha males and celebrities, where men get worked up over most any female that crosses their path.

When females are sleeping with lesser males it risks the chance of a weaker gene pool, and there's something instinctively "wrong" about that, though our humanity struggles to come to grips with that reasoning.

[Deleted]

I've never understood why men who have a lot of sex with different women are viewed in a positive light while girls who do the same with men are viewed negatively.

Why do you think this is the case? Isn't it good for men that women wants to have sex with more men?

Who is antagonistic?
(mostly women).
Why?
Because if those women put out, their sexual market place rank drops (unless they also are easy).
And while women like sex just like men, they prefer emotional investment over sheer physicality.

[Mayhem]

It's because it's much more difficult to convince a bunch of women to sleep with you than it is to convince a bunch of men. It's so easy for women to get sex, some of them just stand on the side of the street and just wait for random men to drive along. They even charge for it, and the men will pay.

So that's the reason why. All a girl has to do is shout in a crowded room "I'd like some sex" and she'll have a bunch of folks standing by at the ready. There's nothing exceptional a women has to do and she doesn't have to look exceptional. A guy would have to be an exceptional alpha (or famous/rich) to make that work. Which is why if a guy does it, he's special. If a girl does it, meh.

So while the lock analogy is kinda cruddy, that's kinda supposed to be what it means.

Read what you wrote again and exchange women with men and vice versa, let´s see if you find the sexism.

[Ragedaug]

Read what you wrote again and exchange women with men and vice versa, let´s see if you find the sexism.

You can see the sexism reading it as I wrote it. I didn't say it was fair and I didn't say it was morally right. If you exchange "women with men" it doesn't work and makes no sense.

[Vorkreist]

The social dynamic is changing to nobody being in a real relationship any more. I see people in these "open relationships" and they're pretty pathetic. They aren't making real connections with each other, they're just fuckbuddies. Most of the ones I know are on anti-depressant medication and therapy when they can afford it. They're "unhappy" with life and can't figure out why.

It isn't such a mystery.

Tell me more how successful and fulfilling marriage is. Statistically.

[Strangebrew]

You should ask religious nutjobs, right-wing nutjobs or feminists that.

[Mayhem]

You can see the sexism reading it as I wrote it. I didn't say it was fair. If you exchange "women with men" it doesn't work and makes no sense.

Sure does, you just have to apply the same standards, women who shout "I´d like some sex" won´t attract the better looking men. It´s not like they don´t have to lower their standards if they want to have sex right now, men can do that too.

[Wiyld]

http://time.com/3461485/how-previous...ect-offspring/


I am somewhat suprised more people have not picked up on this yet....most likely because it is real biological evidence that our current social trends might not be on the right track. Anyway.....we tend to shit on any social behaviors thst came before us.....maybe people knew what they were talking about...humans are fantastic at pattern recognition....given enough examples we can spot a trend even without knowing the reasons behind it.

[Ragedaug]

It's possible to be promiscuous and to have high standards at the same time.

When this happens you have found an exceptional female. A female who can has sex with many males and restricts it to alphas only is exceptional. As as someone else noted, it's more the other women who frown upon this behavior then men. Most men would just try to take a number and hope they can get in line.

[nextormento]

Problematic femininity and female victimhood culture.

[D3thray]

Some very astute comments about human biology and how women view other women in a more negative light than men if they are promiscuous. Another point I'd add is the advent of reliable birth control is relatively speaking a very recent development in human culture compared to the thousands of years of human civilization.

People being knuckleheads is too shallow of an explanation, that doesn't encapsulate the whole picture.

[Wiyld]

It´s a common analogy that isn´t working anyhow you look at it, unless you believe male genitalia have some inherent powers that make women sleep with them.

Pheromones?