Why the antagonism towards promiscous women?

[Molis]

I am a male and do not remember the last time I called someone a slut or whore.
The women do it too themselves.

[Zenotetsuken]

Here is the reality... The exact same shaming for being promiscuous as a woman, is shared by men for being inadequate.
It is this stupid cycle of "Well if you weren't such a whore, my average penis size would be fine!" "Yeah, well if your cock were bigger, I wouldn't have to sleep around with other guys."
Women complain constantly about being body shamed for being too fat/skinny/short/tall/etc, but the majority of those same women would immediately turn around and start talking shit about a guy if he has a small dick.
Women don't seem to even register that they still expect men to make the first move. How would you feel, walking across an entire bar/club/whatever, thinking that because you aren't hung like a pornstar, society has told you that you are inadequate, and EVEN IF this goes well, you will be judged on something you have no control over?
Women don't hold a patent on body image issues, Men just keep our fears to ourselves, because society has dictated that showing fear is a sign of weakness, and a weak man is a useless man.

[Mistame]

Just because you seem to have issues with emotional intimacy doesn't mean all men do.

"Typically" doesn't mean "all". Besides, one has to account for "sensitive" men who, interestingly enough, are also into "sensitive" men.

Citation needed. Do you have a study that backs up your claim regarding prior number of partners and fidelity within a relationship?

Your statement only works under the assumption that behavior outside of a relationship is mirrored while in a relationship. And anyone with any experience at all knows that's not true.

[Snuffleupagus]

I've never understood why men who have a lot of sex with different women are viewed in a positive light while girls who do the same with men are viewed negatively.

Why do you think this is the case? Isn't it good for men that women wants to have sex with more men?

Pretending you don't think poorly of sluts (on a gaming forum of all places) isn't going to get you laid.

[Rudkobing]

That's a pretty bad reason for the antagonism. There's birth control and abortion.

Its other people's reasoning. I like promiscuous women.

[Zorgulon]

inb4 that retarded lock analogy.

And, simply 2 mere minutes after your comment, the lock comment emerges. All hail prophet Greymane!

[frogger237]

I live in a small town here it doesn't matter what gender you are, a sluts a slut.


But i guess it you look at areas where there is a difference maybe being a man that gets laid alot is seen more as a skill as men are the ones who typically have to ask out a woman and face rejection whereas a woman is seen as being not picky as she didn't have to find someone they found her.

[ovm33]

Not sure if it's been brought up yet...

imo it has do with paternity. Or really trust. A women will always know if it's her kid, she had it duh... But a man pretty much had to take a women's word for it that it was his kid. Nowadays with easy paternity tests it's not such an issue as it was even just 25 years ago. So, imo, women who slept around were viewed negatively as you couldn't trust whether it was your kid. It takes a special person to raise someone else's little bastard. Most men aren't, myself included. Now imagine you spend the $100k or so on a kid only to find out it was the milkman's...

It originally was about money and after these many millennia the preconceived notions of untrustworthiness remain.

[Zervek]

It is rather simple. The ideal woman is virtuous and hopefully a virgin by the time she gets into a real, marital relationship. By her already being with many guys, she is no longer pure and has ruined herself. Men are different because it isn't our responsibility in life to bear children.

[Peppered]

look at all the posts by people whining about how easy it is for girls to get sex. if you want lots of sex, simply lower your standards. that's really all it seems to take (for males & females).

Is it not simply human nature to "whine" as you so put it and be upset when someone has something much easier than you in life which you hold in high value? I think it certainly is, and as such it's unfair to hold it against those guys who are resentful that the tables are tipped so much in the favour of girls here, this is more human nature then it is anything else. If somehow it was men who the tables were tipped in favour of, i.e. some alternate universe where they held the sexual power, had enough choices that they could afford to be really picky, and the women in that alt universe wanted sex much more and more actively and yet couldn't get it anywhere near as easily as a man, would you not think there would be resentment there too.

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To you. Men typically aren't looking for "emotional" stimulation.

Yes they are, wtf?? Of course men want emotional satisfaction from their serious relationships. How serious they consider relationships is another matter.

[Celista]

That is quite a bit of excessive fearmongering imo. Most people don't contract any diseases from going even to the cheapest brothels or the sleaziest strip clubs (where also stuff happens in the backrooms). Escorting is very common among high status societies. CEOs etc love to hire college chicks to take out on dates and to pay for sex after dinner or whatever else they went to do, it practically replaces dating for most wealthy men it seems...

Of course our opinions might come from different ends of a spectrum. Your opinions often come across a bit as feminist and I'm just a business minded guy that owns brothels and strip clubs, so opinions could be biased.

I probably was the guy that linked intelligence with promiscuity. Likewise I know wealthy women, with high educations who seem to enjoy lavish lifestyles in BDSM communities, etc. Some of the most intelligent women I've met were indeed extremely promiscuous. (but like I pointed out earlier, they still have high standards. It's possible to do both). That is not to say that I think there is a direct correlation between the two, but their neither is an inverse correlation like some people like to assume either.

I was just surprised to read anyone try to correlate intelligence with promiscuity one way or another, if there's a study out there then I'd like to read it. Bolded: yes, I would think so...

I personally don't think STDs are that hard to catch, very rarely does an STD test actually test *all of them* (if you ask for a STD test at your physician and inquire as to all it tests, you'll notice that most of them test HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea) and HPV is prevalent in around 75 percent of the population. HPV is correlated with cervical cancer in women (two strains accounting for 70 percent of all cervical cancer cases).

[Theodarzna]

I've never understood why men who have a lot of sex with different women are viewed in a positive light while girls who do the same with men are viewed negatively.

Why do you think this is the case? Isn't it good for men that women wants to have sex with more men?

Because women hate competition. At the end of the day, if there is a prettier and more sexually voracious girl, or even of equal looks but just more sexually voracious, she will face brutal competition.

[Peppered]

Because women hate competition. At the end of the day, if there is a prettier and more sexually voracious girl, or even of equal looks but just more sexually voracious, she will face brutal competition.

I'm not really following whether the discussion is focused on relationships more or just talking more about casual sex, hooking up etc.

If we're talking relationships then tbh the playing field as it were there is a lot more even regardless of guy/girl or sex drive, least from my experience, but if we're talking casual sex and whatnot, well let's just say that putting it in wow terms, being male is like being a DPS in mythic 5-man grp premade finder, and being a girl is like being the tank or healer. You are always in demand and since there is an extremely high number of dps looking for grps compared to no. of tanks or healers, you are always wanted, lots of grps will take you in even if you aren't the best possible healer/tank and have lower ilevel than rest of the grp. Meanwhile as DPS you better prepare to face 95% grp rejection if you're only avg ilevel, and if your ilevel is entry ilevel then you might as well forget it.

Don't judge me for the wow analogy haha, but it does really fit for what we're discussing.

[Rooflesstoofless]

Girl: "That bitch/whore/slut for reasons!"
Guy: "Really? I thought she had a nice ass."

I hear women shame other women 10-to-1 over guys saying mean shit.

[Ryme]

I've never understood why men who have a lot of sex with different women are viewed in a positive light while girls who do the same with men are viewed negatively.

Where are these men viewed in a positive light, where are the women viewed in a negative light? Seriously, they're almost always both viewed negatively in the public space. If people want to congratulate or demean someone within their own private social circle, that's their business and you'd have to ask them.

[Guyv3r]

Where are these men viewed in a positive light, where are the women viewed in a negative light? Seriously, they're almost always both viewed negatively in the public space.

QTF.

/10chars

[Fasc]

Where are these men viewed in a positive light, where are the women viewed in a negative light? Seriously, they're almost always both viewed negatively in the public space. If people want to congratulate or demean someone within their own private social circle, that's their business and you'd have to ask them.

This absolutely 100%.

Further, some social aspects tend to lead men to get slightly more favorable views (and vice versa for women) because of the generalized assumption that a guy has to work harder to find a woman to sleep with so a man succeeding must be rather good at it or desirable whereas a woman would be viewed as being less picky and thus "easy" or devalued. Not saying this is a true axiom, but there is something to be said about guys going from girl to girl trying to get accepted and a girl simply picking who she wants with less issue. Interactions tend to assume girls have the final say and guys are the askers. /shrug

Don't sleep around, its gross, syphilis is a thing.

[Elegiac]

Don't sleep around, its gross, syphilis is a thing.

Why is it gross if you are practicing safe, consensual sex?

[Fasc]

Why is it gross if you are practicing safe, consensual sex?

Because "safe" is a very poor choice of words if you're swapping partners frequently. There's a reason SE Texas had radio commercials for years about the warning signs for syphilis, even with condom usage you're flatly upping your risk by having frequent and varied encounters, even more so if you aren't just having standard penetrative sex.

[Elegiac]

Because "safe" is a very poor choice of words if you're swapping partners frequently. There's a reason SE Texas had radio commercials for years about the warning signs for syphilis, even with condom usage you're flatly upping your risk by having frequent and varied encounters, even more so if you aren't just having standard penetrative sex.

I'm not exactly sure how that makes it 'gross'.

Then again, Texas isn't exactly a beacon of enlightenment for high quality sex ed.