Putin suspends nuclear pact with US

[Skroe]

Why? The world has seen 26 years of unilateral American domination. And what did it bring? Wars in Middle East, wars in Eastern Europe, industrial espionage in Europe, NSA spying on American citizens...

Yeah we've had an excellent start.

I'm only half joking. About what? You figure it out.

[Kraenen]

Why? The world has seen 26 years of unilateral American domination. And what did it bring? Wars in Middle East, wars in Eastern Europe, industrial espionage in Europe, NSA spying on American citizens...

Not sure if any of those are really new are they?

[Kellhound]

Why? The world has seen 26 years of unilateral American domination. And what did it bring? Wars in Middle East, wars in Eastern Europe, industrial espionage in Europe, NSA spying on American citizens...

Perhaps because many of those people who "enjoyed" being under Soviet rule have no desire to be so again.

The USSR did not prevent similar things from happening, and really, industrial espionage????

[Rukh]

Why? The world has seen 26 years of unilateral American domination. And what did it bring? Wars in Middle East, wars in Eastern Europe, industrial espionage in Europe, NSA spying on American citizens...

There were never wars until the US got to dominating.

[Skroe]

There were never wars until the US got to dominating.

The first human to smash the last Neanderthal's skull with a rock was undoubtedly a Great American.

[Haven]

Perhaps because many of those people who "enjoyed" being under Soviet rule have no desire to be so again.

The USSR did not prevent similar things from happening, and really, industrial espionage????

What about Snowden's info about how USA spied on European governments and corporations on a large scale while pretenting to be allies?

There were never wars until the US got to dominating.

But not 100% of the time. Now there's always war somewhere, and somehow US always get involved, usually either waging it or backing the ones waging it.

[Kellhound]

What about Snowden's info about how USA spied on European governments and corporations on a large scale while pretenting to be allies?

But not 100% of the time. Now there's always war somewhere, and somehow US always get involved, usually either waging it or backing the ones waging it.

Uh, because that wasnt new, unique, or surprising. It just isnt something that is usually discussed.

[Skroe]

What about Snowden's info about how USA spied on European governments and corporations on a large scale while pretenting to be allies?

US Allies spy on each other routinely.

A few years back, it came out that the #1 source of industrial espionage in the US was China. #2? France.

It's mostly harmless. Our allies rightly want to know that what we say to them is what is actually getting on. Really, it's mostly about understanding the context of our positions, the process and hash out alternatives. We do the same.[/quote]

But not 100% of the time. Now there's always war somewhere, and somehow US always get involved, usually either waging it or backing the ones waging it.

US Global Defense Strategy is one of "Forward Defense". We've discussed this at length. It makes more sense to fight our enemies there than fight them here.

[Haven]

Uh, because that wasnt new, unique, or surprising. It just isnt something that is usually discussed.

Self-censorship?

[Nerevar]

What do you even know of Russia? Putin's popularity is at all-time high. Everyone in Russia knows that the West desires to make Russia into a banana republic, a resource appendage. And everyone sees that Putin is trying to return the might of Soviet Union. Need I say more?

Plenty. Do not dare to speak for everyone. Most of the people hated the Soviet Union and understand that if it returns, it would be even worse. Heck, even now there are hints of it and people already dislike it. Yes, they're afraid the West might ravage Russia if it gets that far but nobody in their mind like Putin and what he's doing right now. He was okay in the early 00's, but right now - not so much. As for his all-time high popularity and other shit - propaganda, fixed statistics and general fear. Just like during the Soviet Union, if you're against the regime you're either silenced, disappear or die.

[Deleted]

Plenty. Do not dare to speak for everyone. Most of the people hated the Soviet Union and understand that if it returns, it would be even worse. Heck, even now there are hints of it and people already dislike it. Yes, they're afraid the West might ravage Russia if it gets that far but nobody in their mind like Putin and what he's doing right now. He was okay in the early 00's, but right now - not so much. As for his all-time high popularity and other shit - propaganda, fixed statistics and general fear. Just like during the Soviet Union, if you're against the regime you're either silenced, disappear or die.

Ahahah of course. Propaganda and fixed statistics. And beatings obviously. Proper "bad guy behavior". Like in a movie.

Or perhaps you're full of shit and don't know what you're talking about

I wonder which of the two option is correct, do we live in a real life version of a cheap Hollywood movie? Or perhaps you're just wrong?

[Nerevar]

Ahahah of course. Propaganda and fixed statistics. And beatings obviously. Proper "bad guy behavior". Like in a movie.

Or perhaps you're full of shit and don't know what you're talking about

I wonder which of the two option is correct, do we live in a real life version of a cheap Hollywood movie? Or perhaps you're just wrong?

Cheap Hollywood movie is a good parallel for what current Russia under "EdRo" and Putin is.

[Deleted]

Cheap Hollywood movie is a good parallel for what current Russia under "EdRo" and Putin is.

Of course man. Of course. Bad guys vs good guys. Life is a lot easier if you look at it from the point of view of a child.

[Exeris]

US Global Defense Strategy is one of "Forward Defense". We've discussed this at length. It makes more sense to fight our enemies there than fight them here.

Done an excellent job at creating enemies the last 1/2 century.

[Deleted]

Done an excellent job at creating enemies the last 1/2 century.

Why, are you not impressed by the mindblowing results of US foreign policies in the last 60 years?

[Skroe]

Done an excellent job at creating enemies the last 1/2 century.

Look at the US international position. Our enemies are comparatively weak and divided. We're the world's largest economy, most powerful country and most technologically advanced nation. We're surrounded by the largest network of alliances in history. We're ranked 8h in the Human Development Index, while being the world's 3rd largest country by land area and population.

The US' global strategy since World War II has been staggeringly successful, for us and our allies. Should the US trade it's position in the world with say, Russia or China? Should we accept the status they have? Not in a million years.

So what if we made enemies? That was always going to happen. The existence of enemies in no way shape or form negates the runaway success that US global strategy has been in the big picture.

[ParanoiD84]

What about Snowden's info about how USA spied on European governments and corporations on a large scale while pretenting to be allies?

But not 100% of the time. Now there's always war somewhere, and somehow US always get involved, usually either waging it or backing the ones waging it.

There have always been wars, this planet have never seen world peace since mankind's beginning. Just a quick look at history will show you that and war is a huge part of mankind's history and will always be.

[Ermelloth]

Putin - Khuylo. Lalalalalalalala (c).

What else could you expect?

[May90]

What about Snowden's info about how USA spied on European governments and corporations on a large scale while pretenting to be allies?

Haha, you literally started your comment with "What about". Not even pretending any more!

[Direpenguin]

First of all, why you keep trying to hold a conversation with me since you see i am obviously trying to avoid it.
Secondly, Americans specialize in killing civilians so yeah they would be.

Hi, 1980s Afghanistan would like to have a word with you.

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What do you even know of Russia? Putin's popularity is at all-time high. Everyone in Russia knows that the West desires to make Russia into a banana republic, a resource appendage. And everyone sees that Putin is trying to return the might of Soviet Union. Need I say more?

You would be better off making these statements if Russia were isolated from the West, as it was during the cold war. As it stands now, many of us know Russians, who are in contact with friends and family back home, and they do not paint this picture of love... more of fear and corruption. So please, tell us more about how Russia is the only civilized country in the world. Oops, did I type 'tell us', what I meant was 'lie to us'.