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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    his social policies were nice
    He signed a bill into law in Ohio this year that forced young girls and women to carry the products of rape and incest to term. He's also a big proponent of gay conversion "therapies" and opposes marriage equality and same-sex adoption, as well as voted against efforts to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. He's nothing but another ugly face for the bigots and morons of his party to fawn over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Lol, I'm not appealing to the forums, I'm quoting them. You should learn the difference.
    All evidence to the contrary.

    No, you didn't - but you'll never see how you didn't and/or admit to being wrong - especially with me. So, while it's adorable, why don't you take your little crush somewhere else. I don't want you to bring your mom into this again.
    You're insistence that I have a fascination with you says more about you than me. And your reference to my mom shows you pathetic you really are.

    Just so everyone can see how transparent you are, this was your first post that I replied to.
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Fivethirtyeight has a 70% chance of the Senate going Dem. Anyone got good poll numbers on specific Senate races?
    I pointed out that 538 has plenty of polling for specific Senate races. You then said this...
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    I was looking for the above, or OTHER polls that have reliable and unbiased info/analysis.
    Evidently, again, completely unaware that 538 has collected data and referenced more than 400 individual polls. But evidently that's not enough for you. Sure, you need more polls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    You're insistence that I have a fascination with you says more about you than me. And your reference to my mom shows you pathetic you really are.

    Just so everyone can see how transparent you are, this was your first post that I replied to.
    Noooooooo - but it's cute you think that. Seriously, let it go. Find someone else to bother.


    I pointed out that 538 has plenty of polling for specific Senate races. You then said this...

    Evidently, again, completely unaware that 538 has collected data and referenced more than 400 individual polls. But evidently that's not enough for you. Sure, you need more polls...
    My favorite is when you quote me proving you wrong. I was looking for OTHER polls - not just 538. Rofl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Noooooooo - but it's cute you think that. Seriously, let it go. Find someone else to bother.




    My favorite is when you quote me proving you wrong. I was looking for OTHER polls - not just 538. Rofl.
    If you think I'm bothering you, then you don't have to reply. I'll still point out when you're wrong though, so it won't save you from that.

    And, Cubby, if you want something to Rofl about, then Rofl about this; 538 does opinion poll analysis. They don't conduct the polls themselves.

    You maintain you we're looking for OTHER polls then the ones that 538 referenced. That's fine, but first you should tell us why you think you need more polls than the more than 400 that 538 analyzed? I'm going to take a guess here...I don't think you knew that they were there all along. But, that's pretty easy to surmise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espe View Post
    He signed a bill into law in Ohio this year that forced young girls and women to carry the products of rape and incest to term. He's also a big proponent of gay conversion "therapies" and opposes marriage equality and same-sex adoption, as well as voted against efforts to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. He's nothing but another ugly face for the bigots and morons of his party to fawn over.
    Kasick?! That sounds more like Mike Pence to me... ill have to
    Look that up... thought kasick was pro-lgbt equality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espe View Post
    He signed a bill into law in Ohio this year that forced young girls and women to carry the products of rape and incest to term. He's also a big proponent of gay conversion "therapies" and opposes marriage equality and same-sex adoption, as well as voted against efforts to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. He's nothing but another ugly face for the bigots and morons of his party to fawn over.
    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    The sad part is I thought Kasick was the only decent human beingnin the lot. Yes, i disagreed with his fiscal policies - but his social policies were nice, and none of his statements were out if fear or rage or any of the deplorable bait the rest of the clowns. He believed in his fiscal policies based on whatever stupid math he used, not cuz "Socialist EVIL!!!" Batshit stupid the rest spew.

    In short, i could disagree with him and yet believe he wouldn't lead us down a hell-hole like the rest would
    Were/are there any good/decent candidates for the GOP this time around? Even people who didn't throw their hat into the ring? It seems to me that the GOP is in a bit of a pickle (or shit hole as my momma used to say) in that you have to be bat-shit crazy to survive and win the GOP Primary, but in doing so you impune yourself so the undecideds and Dems find you wholly unattractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Were/are there any good/decent candidates for the GOP this time around? Even people who didn't throw their hat into the ring? It seems to me that the GOP is in a bit of a pickle (or shit hole as my momma used to say) in that you have to be bat-shit crazy to survive and win the GOP Primary, but in doing so you impune yourself so the undecideds and Dems find you wholly unattractive.
    Kasick ran for pres this election in the repub primaries. He came in Fourth, but was the last to drop out. I believe he only won one state...

    Thus the problem wasn't him... it was the mongrel jackhole deplorables that have hijacked the party that were duking it out over Dump and Cruz fir which bigoted lying scumbag to be their godfather..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    If you think I'm bothering you, then you don't have to reply. I'll still point out when you're wrong though, so it won't save you from that.

    You maintain you we're looking for OTHER polls then the ones that 538 referenced. That's fine, but first you should tell us why you think you need more polls than the more than 400 that 538 analyzed?
    You turned my request for other polling information or analysis (which was clearly understood by all except you - see the immediate response below my original post by another member) into some hypothetical requirement where I have to meet your subjective standard before a question/request is valid. And I'm wrong?

    God you're adorable. Seriously, pull the ripcord before you hurt yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Kasick ran for pres this election in the repub primaries. He came in Fourth, but was the last to drop out. I believe he only won one state...

    Thus the problem wasn't him...
    Again, his policies and legislation paint a very different picture than what you're implying. He's just as bad if not worse than some of the other clowns he was running against, and that's saying something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Kasick ran for pres this election in the repub primaries. He came in Fourth, but was the last to drop out. I believe he only won one state...

    Thus the problem wasn't him... it was the mongrel jackhole deplorables that have hijacked the party that were duking it out over Dump and Cruz fir which bigoted lying scumbag to be their godfather..
    That's what I'm getting at - Kasich might have been decent but like you said, the mongrel jackholes surrounding him made it impossible to come out on top. And if he'd bent to their will, he'd appear/be just as bigoted as the others.

    I think the GOP is FUBAR'd atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espe View Post
    Again, his policies and legislation paint a very different picture than what you're implying. He's just as bad if not worse than some of the other clowns he was running against, and that's saying something.
    I agree with you Espe, but have mvallas' perspective as well - I think because so little was actually ever known about him before he became a non-entity (even though he lasted till almost the very end).

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    And for those of you wondering how the Trump campaign handled last night, here's a video of Kellyanne Conway answering every question except the one she was asked about Trump accepting the election results.

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    Why do you kids even care what happens to the GOP? It's clear you don't support it at all. A little too beholden to that 2 party system methinks.

    Trust me it's much better to just step back and let it die, and then watch the slow death of the Democrat party soon after. But that'd imply you want an actual solution for things and not just a boogeyman for your party to throw punches at every 2/4/6 years while the status quo fucks us all.

    I seriously question the number of people here who want a solution compared to those who just want their creature comforts intact and a contrarian party to hate. In that sense this election cycle has been a wondrous gift to the country as our inescapable partisanship comes to the forefront and we see that truly we don't belong together and that the melting pot should be discarded in favor of each side going their own way. It's been truly great, now we can take the next step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Why do you kids even care what happens to the GOP? It's clear you don't support it at all. A little too beholden to that 2 party system methinks.

    Trust me it's much better to just step back and let it die, and then watch the slow death of the Democrat party soon after. But that'd imply you want an actual solution for things and not just a boogeyman for your party to throw punches at every 2/4/6 years while the status quo fucks us all.

    I seriously question the number of people here who want a solution compared to those who just want their creature comforts intact and a contrarian party to hate. In that sense this election cycle has been a wondrous gift to the country as our inescapable partisanship comes to the forefront and we see that truly we don't belong together and that the melting pot should be discarded in favor of each side going their own way. It's been truly great, now we can take the next step.
    Personally, I want solutions. I want to fix what's wrong with this country. Not the BS "social problems" that the GOP touts, but the real ones. Fix the AMA. Rebuild our infrastructure. Embrace and fully adopt renewable energy. Make education equal - and free.

    I miss the days of cooperation and deal making - when Tip O'Neil and Reagan could still sit down together and hammer out policy.

    But that's not going to happen so long as the GOP is under this evil influence of "compromise is bad". That kind of policy will never work in a democracy - and the GOP constituents seem to think that "compromising your values is wrong". Not sure how that works out for the rest of us, except with the do-nothing Congress we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    RNC Chair Reince Priebus says Trump WILL accept the results of the election

    11:03PM last night. The RNC knows Trump is costing them. Still not ready to sever ties, but it seems like Pence, Conway, Preibus and who knows who else is needed to reassure Republican voters "No, Trump was only kidding all those times he said he wouldn't accept the results. He's totally for American democracy, despite his exact words to the contrary."
    The're chained to him. The 45% or so of the diehard Republican supporters who put him into the nomination in the first place clearly expressed their discontent for any Republicans stepping out of their place.. as it is, the Senate is dangerous, and even the House is starting to look contentious. If they openly rebel against Trump the entire country could be painted blue, and too much ground will be lost for a resurgence in the next few congressional cycles.

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    So basically you have literally everyone who supports Donald Trump saying that Donald Trump will accept the results...except for Donald Trump, who has said he'll only accept them if they wins.

    Glad everyone is on the same page on the GOP side.

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    So CNN suggests that Trump may claim a rigged election to force it to the Supreme Court which is tied 4-4 and make Ginsburg recuse herself due to her previous spoken bias towards Trump making it 4-3 in favor of Republicans to take the election by hook or crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You turned my request for other polling information or analysis (which was clearly understood by all except you - see the immediate response below my original post by another member) into some hypothetical requirement where I have to meet your subjective standard before a question/request is valid. And I'm wrong?

    God you're adorable. Seriously, pull the ripcord before you hurt yourself.
    Yes you're wrong. You don't understand what 538 does. You think that 538 does polling. You said this
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I was looking for OTHER polls - not just 538. Rofl.
    Other people may choose not to tell you when you're wrong, but that's entirely irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    So CNN suggests that Trump may claim a rigged election to force it to the Supreme Court which is tied 4-4 and make Ginsburg recuse herself due to her previous spoken bias towards Trump making it 4-3 in favor of Republicans to take the election by hook or crook.
    Considering no one but the judges can recuse themselves, I don't see how that's possible. People can ask for it to happen, but that doesn't matter. Just look at thomas, who didn't recuse himself from judgments on the ACA even though his wife (and therefore himself) are affected financially by the outcome.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    And Trumps rules for respecting women #12 http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58...b0dd54ce38b5de

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Considering no one but the judges can recuse themselves, I don't see how that's possible. People can ask for it to happen, but that doesn't matter. Just look at thomas, who didn't recuse himself from judgments on the ACA even though his wife (and therefore himself) are affected financially by the outcome.
    In the case of a tie it goes to lower courts and in Florida there is the Republican administration. Basically you challenge the results in Florida which is leaning Democrat but currently Republican administration.

    Also as far as recusing goes don't underestimate the abilities of lawyer demands on the heels of trumped up public outrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Why do you kids even care what happens to the GOP? It's clear you don't support it at all. A little too beholden to that 2 party system methinks.

    Trust me it's much better to just step back and let it die, and then watch the slow death of the Democrat party soon after. But that'd imply you want an actual solution for things and not just a boogeyman for your party to throw punches at every 2/4/6 years while the status quo fucks us all.

    I seriously question the number of people here who want a solution compared to those who just want their creature comforts intact and a contrarian party to hate. In that sense this election cycle has been a wondrous gift to the country as our inescapable partisanship comes to the forefront and we see that truly we don't belong together and that the melting pot should be discarded in favor of each side going their own way. It's been truly great, now we can take the next step.
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