OP is fire mage who currently one of the best dps spec and he bitching about other's dps. Did you played as frost mage/DK and tryed to pull atleast 250k dps?/thread
OP is fire mage who currently one of the best dps spec and he bitching about other's dps. Did you played as frost mage/DK and tryed to pull atleast 250k dps?/thread
Quite honestly, I've seen people mostly doing fairly competitive DPS thus far, leading me to believe the majority are actually atleast decent players.
Partially. Part of the problem is how one side is not leaving the other sides alone and play the way they want and let others play the way they want.
We have people in higher raid difficulties complaining about the LFR players being bad, does not deserve rewards etc. Then there is the other side that complains about certain rewards being only available at certain level, such as mounts, titles etc.
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Right. So your justification for your language, tone, hostility is because they are "shitty". It is their fault. Not yours.
The average legion player is far better than the average player during wrath. There are weak players around in the game at the moment but they still have basic competency, during wrath there were players everywhere who did not understand the basics like what a tank does, how aggro works, why equipping intellect on a death knight isn't a good idea etc. I remember being in a dungeon with a boomkin one time who dealt damage solely through auto attacks, met people who used spells by clicking on the spellbook and changing pages when they needed a different spell and healers who needed to be in the same group to heal as they didn't have raid frames. I even remember well geared raiders in pugs who would open with all cooldowns during heroism and then die on purpose so they'd remain top of the DPS metres since nobody sorted by damage in those days. This wasn't even uncommon.
I haven't seen anything even remotely close to that in legion, the really bad players appear to have either left during cata or improved.
I admit I haven't been "good" at pve since I was last in raiding guilds (cataclysm). I got burned out and converted to casual pvp.
I'm actually interested (moderately) in doing some dragonslaying this expansion, but haven't really started yet. I am a month behind the main group of pvers, because September was the absolute worst month for the xpac to launch (for me) and I wasn't able to play most of the month. Since the general opinion form the player base is "if you don't do insane dps or pull/tank perfectly, you are obviously too stupid to learn, there is no hope for you" it makes it rather intimidating to start.
Bandwagon sports fans can eat a bag of http://www.ddir.com/ .
Is there any other activity in existence other than video games where the people who are the best at it spend massive amounts of time and energy whining and complaining and criticizing and insulting everybody else?
Do pro and semi-pro baseball players whine and moan endlessly about having to share their sport with all those other casual weekend players? Do chess masters go on the chess forums and endlessly complain about the existence of club level tournaments and high school chess clubs?
Seriously people, if you think you are a great WoW player then just go group up with other players at your level. But just shut the hell up about how there are so many "low skill" players who don't measure up to your lofty standard. Give it a rest with all the passive aggressive "I just don't get why everybody isn't great like me" comments. Just let them play the game they paid for in peace.
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Firstly you're pulling statistics out your ass and it makes your points way less meaningful. Secondly, there will always be bad players, there will always be mediocre players, there will always be decent players, and then there will also be great players. This is something you have to put up with.
Majority of people are just plain "normal" people, bigger problem are people who group up with randoms and having totally wrong expectations. If you group up with wrong people it's mostly your own fault, there's plenty of competetive players around too for pretty high levels.
I'm not generally shitty, but have had moments with less than desirable gameplay. I can willingly admit to this, unlike the majority of players here. If someone's fun is being good at the game, why can't they feel that carrying a group in a heroic (all of my examples have been heroic) will make them even better players?
You say people should be more accepting to poorer play in a random heroic, but they aren't, and that's a problem, but you don't see it.
If you're upset with someone's poor performance, how do you help them? By namecalling and wishing cancer upon them, or guiding them towards a class guide? What suits the game in the long run - a friendly and helpful community or a smaller, hostile and angry community?
Shit play isn't the source of hostilty, wannabe pro players who think they're gods gift to WoW and humanity with an attitude that belongs nowhere are
You seem very spiteful towards noobs and "shit play", I bet if you were in a room with an underperforming dps and Hitler and had a gun with two bullets, you'd shoot the dps twice and call him a hypersensitiv bitch for crying in pain
You say you're a nice person in the game, yet I don't believe that. You are void of empathy and if you were the first person to happen upon a car crash, you'd drive on because those noobs can only thank themselves and should've l2p
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Anyway, learning to play isn't hard.
You can't learn to play if you don't want to.
If you get accepted into groups and your shit play gets tolerated, it's highly likely you won't find the drive to improve.
But anyway, I don't really do much matchmaking content. Avoid LFR like the plague. Premades/organized groups or nothing. That way I don't have to speak to shit people, and shit people don't have to be triggered when they get called out for being shitty.
I pug M+0 because I enjoy group finder groups, lol.
If I were to do M+ anything, I'd do it with my guild.
Back in cata when my guild was progressing on sinestra, I'd pug 5mans ad nauseum. I like 5 mans. I dislike 5 mans with people who don't care about their performance (I'm not saying that I'm only grouping with geared people, I'd group with people who care enough to try), people who stand in aoes, don't interrupt, fall off ledges; people who slow the flow of the run (low dps doesn't really affect the flow, but stopping to res a baddie does)
Basically I like runs with like minded individuals. People who don't stress my runs out.
Eh, I won't complain at the ones that aren't shit. There's a lot of players that are neither pro nor dogshit awful.
Ok for instance, last night I got in to a Nelth's +2 (was supposed to be +0, someone had key, why not ya?)
We cleared to 3 chests, but had to suicide because the tank skipped some mobs that we needed, only got +2.
No wipes, why would I be mad at that?
If I joined the +0 and you had people barraging extra mobs and standing in the poop and dying and stuff, then yeah, play better wtf?! I'm not asking for perfection, I'm asking for players that I group with to actually care. Jaded LFResque people who shoot the boss once and afk are def not my peers. You don't have to do godly dps, you just have to try.
Why would I be? Lol. But if I do something clearly stupid (it happens to everyone) I usually apologize and attempt to rectify the issue before it becomes unsalvageable.
And making mythic+0 queueable would just open the field to people who care even less than the current crowd. Even less