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Population is becoming more bloodthirsty with each generation. They used to have law student first semesters evaluate a murder case and the punishment handed out is becoming more severe with each generation of law students. It's a conscious effort to reel the students back and remind them about objectivity. Good thing people on this forum usually don't have any say in important decisions, otherwise the world would go to shits faster than Jaylock gets banned.
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It's difficult for people outside of Europe to understand Europian law, same with US law. Not going to say anything more then this, they were underaged and you have no idea what has driven them to do something. Yesterday on Dr Phil I saw a young girl, who was clearly sick in her head, getting 50 years in prison for shooting her mother. Go fix your own system first.
Just because "shit happens all over the world from time to time" doesn't mean it should be accepted as a given. A lot more "shit" was happening ages ago and in time the people have brought it down, because they were not okay with "shit happening". But somewhere in the recent 15-20 years we've seen a stop, instead of progress society is stagnant or regressing, people are lenient, apathetic. Instead of an ideal for freedom "liberal" is turning into carelessness, vulnerability, indecisiveness. People have become so convenient in the modern society, accepting everything as a given, feeling entitled to everything, that they can't be bothered to defend it.
That's the thing, though. We give them shit for their justice system so often on this forum (or they do it themselves) that surely it must feel good to point out perceived justice problems we have in Europe. Try to understand, it probably is very frustrating to have arrogant Europeans tell you just how silly your country is. I don't mind them being ridiculous about this case. It's a sentiment many here share, even in Germany. It requires explanation, but I think once people think it through, they'll understand it.
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Or perhaps it's that liberalism has stayed the same and people became less liberal. Oh, and they use liberal basically to insult anything that disagrees with them, like you did just now. See, this sentence doesn't have anything to do with liberalism and everything to do with progressive rehabilitation policy. Statistics show this way to be more successful than harsh punishments for youths at this age. But go ahead and tell me how you want to create career criminals and help society with that...
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Certainly I will tell you: by convicting and releasing repeatedly without consequence. Just like any other career criminal created by the bloated system that has a good number of registered crimes and goes around committing more. You've opted out of free society the moment you violated and killed individuals of said society.
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My solution, why the fuck i have to pay for them in prison? The solution below is cheaper.
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But we need harder punishments, i grew up with a Lebanes and with 16 years he had already 76 different charges
(burglary, assault, pickpocketing, drug selling, blackmail, damage of property and many many more)
and you know, when he told that some Roma guys, they made fun of him because all of them had already over 100 chargers.
Btw the Roma only had to do 1000-1500 hours of community service for that.
A friend of my brother got mugged and thrown infront of a train and the deliquent gets 1 year probation for murder.
The german law system is just a fucking joke.
I prefer America's general sentencing system over Europe's "rehabilitation^^". I'm disgusted by the jail time rapists get in Norway, two cases come to my mind
Kurdish guy takes part in two gangrapes with like one week in between them. They incapacited one victim with alcohol, the other heroine. The latter said something along the lines of "I was bleeding, the more I cried, the worse it got" (a rare statement, victims of rape aren't quoted in media). Many years on and these victims still aren't living normal lives. The guy escaped but was later found in Slovenia, brought back to Norway and got ten years. The other men got between 6 and 8 (iirc)
Another guy had a daughter, and the daughter would invite her friends over, which were all under 10. He's now facing prison for raping 7 and sexual indecency towards 1. He might get 20 years. Might.
There can be no rehabilitation.
These four young men and the one girl (the girl filmed it) should be trialed as adults, no bullshitting around with "but they're under 18! They're children" (well, one was 21).
Originally Posted by Vaerys
Ok, we could introduce a new law system specifically for foreigners, gypsies and other undesirables. Is that what you suggest?
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People on the internet tend to view concepts as isolated things. I've explained how the justice system works and people only think about that. They don't think about a youth system, social workers, family courts and all the other things the state has to oversee such situations and help families, or rather the youth. It's not the courts job to raise children or teach them lessons. That's not their job. Their job is to see that justice is done in a manner that doesn't completely and instantly ruins those kids for the rest of their lives, because unless we kill them on the spot, society has to deal with them one way or another for probably 50-60 more years.
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