Guild - archaic tool

[Socialhealer]

I don't consider myself an anti social individual, I just think the game would become a better game if it was less or even not social at all

That is just a huge contradiction isn't it, i don't consider myself antisocial but i think the game would be better with no socialising? it's an mmorpg you're supposed to socialise not queue up like bots.

i think the game would be better without players like you but key that's just as valid as your zero socialising opinion huh.

[smokii]

This thread is about the enlightenment I received after I thought about how removing all socializing aspects from WoW could actually make it a better game. Make it an MMORPG from the perspective of each player and not as a huge group of players

it'd make it a single player rpg - there's better games out there which cater to this audience.

[Azgraal]

But if I don't talk to people then I can't experience everything my 13$ a month entitles me to

I decided to read a bit more and was rewarded with this gem.

Move along guys, you know it's a slow day when shitposting like this pops up.

[tikcol]

What is it with you extremists?

One side wants to remove LFR and all easier difficulties just to be a special snowflake, one side wants to remove the hardest content and any resemblance of an online game. Why is it so fucking hard to let people play like they prefer while you focus on your desired content?

I hope Blizzard has some sort of a blacklist of people they'll never listen to, and I hope this entire website is in that list. If anything, people have some sort of extreme mental disorder - "If I can't have things I want, I will take everything from everyone else!"

You're right, I'm being extreme. Sometimes extreme change is required for the best kind of improvements.

I don't go around bashing people playing Mythic, mythic and almost all other difficulty iterations are nothing but the symptom. The disease lies with how they're building their game on top of the "The player must be social" pillar


Why do we need LFR - normal - heroic - mythic ? It's laughable and it shows just how much this "be social" pillar is messy all around

[Eazy]

According to your logic they should delete battle pets because I'm not playing it.

[smokii]

You're right, I'm being extreme. Sometimes extreme change is required for the best kind of improvements.

I don't go around bashing people playing Mythic, mythic and almost all other difficulty iterations are nothing but the symptom. The disease lies with how they're building their game on top of the "The player must be social" pillar


Why do we need LFR - normal - heroic - mythic ? It's laughable and it shows just how much this "be social" pillar is messy all around

here's an extreme change for you

play another game

i smell butthurt over not being able to get into kara, arcway or court of stars

[tikcol]

I decided to read a bit more and was rewarded with this gem.

Move along guys, you know it's a slow day when shitposting like this pops up.

I still can't see how paying to play entitles me to nothing and how my opinion about it is shitposting

[Dominus89]

This thread is about the enlightenment I received after I thought about how removing all socializing aspects from WoW could actually make it a better game. Make it an MMORPG from the perspective of each player and not as a huge group of players

Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game.

Say after me.

Massively.
Multiplayer.
Online.
Role-Playing.
Game.


In an MMORPG a large number of players interact with each other in one way or another.
If thats not for you, then you might aswell unsubscribe.

Blizzard have already done more than enough for people that either want to play alone or just dont want to be in a guild.

[tikcol]

According to your logic they should delete battle pets because I'm not playing it.

Battle pets is, for the most part, a great system. From what I know, it's not based around the "be social" pillar

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/sigh

i would've stopped playing once i hit level cap if it weren't for the social structure that was built out of guildies, trust and shared interests. i still play with the same people 10 years later, it spans across games (we moved to SWTOR, GW2, Aion and a couple others over the years). it's something called a community, which you seemingly fail to understand.

i think your poll results show just how skewed your perception of guilds actually is.

I admit my opinion isn't popular, but that doesn't make me wrong.

And about that community thing, I see it as nothing but a "stable job", why would you leave a stable job which rewards you with a stream of guaranteed epics and perks for another unknown one? You wouldn't

[Azgraal]

I still can't see how paying to play entitles me to nothing and how my opinion about it is shitposting

You are entitled to ZERO.

You pay for access to the servers, for the rental of an account. What you do with that access and/or what you acomplish with that time isn't set in stone, is up to you to put some effort into it.

And yes, I've considered your opinion as shitposting because it really sounds like you like WoW's theme but prefer single player games, and wanting WoW to become one, or conversely turn everything into a solo player queueing to spend 30mins with strangers killing dumbed down mobs is downright stupid.

There are single player games. There are multiplayer games. On the single player games you can usually play alone then queue to play with other people when you want to. In a freaking MMORPG you'll play with other people and you'll like it, gosh dangit!

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[Azgraal]

Some time ago I'd agree wholeheartedly with that. Nowadays after the amount of top notch idiocy I see in some threads, I'm not so sure if someone is a troll or just fell down on their heads when they were babies.

[tikcol]

You are entitled to ZERO.

You pay for access to the servers, for the rental of an account. What you do with that acces and/or what you're acomplish with that time isn't set in stone, is up to you to put some effort into it.

And yes, I've considered your opinion as shitposting because it really sounds like you like WoW's theme but prefer single player games, and wanting WoW to become one, or conversely turn everything into a solo player queueing to spend 30mins with strangers killing dumbed down mobs is downright stupid.

There are single player games. There are multiplayer games. On the single player games you can usually play alone then queue to play with other people when you want to. In a freaking MMORPG you'll play with other people and you'll like it, gosh dangit!

Wrong. Your definition of LFR is "solo queueing to spend 30 mins with strangers killing dumbed down mobs" is subjectively correct but a bit harshly worded. My WoW's theme is an honest belief backed up by the fact that LFR even though defined as above, is the most popular form of content WoW has ever produced.

This is a fact.

[Jaylock]

Wrong. Your definition of LFR is "solo queueing to spend 30 mins with strangers killing dumbed down mobs" is subjectively correct but a bit harshly worded. My WoW's theme is an honest belief backed up by the fact that LFR even though defined as above, is the most popular form of content WoW has ever produced.

This is a fact.

Ok, so you have LFR, and LFD and all the shit easy forms of content. Be guildless and run those to your hearts delight! Whats the point of removing guilds again?

Oh and by the way, I do realize that this is 100% bait, which from that perspective its mildly entertaining to me

[Deleted]

Some time ago I'd agree wholeheartedly with that. Nowadays after the amount of top notch idiocy I see in some threads, I'm not so sure if someone is a troll or just fell down on their heads when they were babies.

Sometimes I think it's not so much them tumbling down the stairs on their head, as it is the stairs crashing through their head and miraculously leaving them alive enough to type stupid stuff on the internet....

[Sencha]

Why don't you play single player games?

[tikcol]

Ok, so you have LFR, and LFD and all the shit easy forms of content. Be guildless and run those to your hearts delight! Whats the point of removing guilds again?

The "social pillar" from which WoW's development stands. Everything development wise is based around the assumption that the player is social, or rather, must be social.

Destroy this pillar, smash it to bits and watch the game become, once again, a pioneer in MMO history

[Azgraal]

Wrong. Your definition of LFR is "solo queueing to spend 30 mins with strangers killing dumbed down mobs" is subjectively correct but a bit harshly worded. My WoW's theme is an honest belief backed up by the fact that LFR even though defined as above, is the most popular form of content WoW has ever produced.

This is a fact.

Wrong. You are wrong. And what's bad with this community lately.

Why not make everything a 100% chance drop while you're at it? Invinvible's reins for everyone! Make RNGesus great again!

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Ok, so you have LFR, and LFD and all the shit easy forms of content. Be guildless and run those to your hearts delight! Whats the point of removing guilds again?

Oh and by the way, I do realize that this is 100% bait, which from that perspective its mildly entertaining to me

Is it not clear? The OP wants everyone to be alone, together with him!

[ls-]

You are entitled to ZERO.

You pay for access to the servers, for the rental of an account. What you do with that acces and/or what you're acomplish with that time isn't set in stone, is up to you to put some effort into it.

Wish more people understood it.

There's a HUGE difference between pay2win and pay2play. What entitled people want is pay2win, but WoW is pay2play MMO w/ optional pay2win services provided by other players a.k.a carries for gold, but it seems that they don't understand it T_T

[Azgraal]

The "social pillar" from which WoW's development stands. Everything development wise is based around the assumption that the player is social, or rather, must be social.

Destroy this pillar, smash it to bits and watch the game become, once again, a pioneer in MMO history

Go play Skyrim. It's a nice single player RPG, something you want, and the HD version just came out.