Since Election, Calls to Suicide Hotlines Have Increased

[Collegeguy]

*snippy snip*

infracted - major trolling

[Cyberowl]

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything though.

That's the SJW way.

Do we need to get back to the parents forcing their kids into gay conversion camps part?

[Deleted]

It would not be wrong, if it works and was the persons choice. Such a thing however doesn't exist that magically changes persons sexual orientation. You can't torture the gay away with things like conversion therapy.

I agree. However, I do not feel the LGBT community fostered by the regressive Ivory Tower Democrats would have the same stance on freedom. True enough I don't think the Republicans do either.

[RickJamesLich]

Please educate yourself on gay conversion camps, their methods and testimonials. Even my parents eventually came to the conclusion that they probably shouldn't have suggested to me to go into one, I'm sure you can too.

Yes, governments should intervene if that means stopping the torture of minors, why is that even a question.

So for example, should governments intervene on parents that feed their kids unhealthy food? Since that can lead to health problems.... how about teen pregnancies? That can lead to a lot of hardships as well. I'm not quite sure you are aware of the dangers that can come from government intervention. And what if that government intervention doesn't match up with what you believe?

That being said, if someone is unhappy with being gay, I don't see how it's your place to decide whether or not they should be able to seek out help.

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Do we need to get back to the parents forcing their kids into gay conversion camps part?

No. But apparently we're fine with tons of parents raising their children "Gender neutral"

Same premise really.

[Hammerfest]

A great man once said "Man up".

This. I'd also like to add that another, slightly less-great man said "Walk it off."

[Cyberowl]

snip snap

Thank you, Mr. Deplorable, for doing your part in healing the US divide.

[Deleted]

Thank you, Mr. Deplorable, for doing your part in healing the US divide.

It's fine to stab one side, but not the other eh Cyberowl?

[Azadina]

I agree. However, I do not feel the LGBT community fostered by the regressive Ivory Tower Democrats would have the same stance on freedom. True enough I don't think the Republicans do either.

And I'm glad that those sorts of parties do not exist here. They are both terrible.

[Jimolimo]

The comparison sucks. One is struggling with their body not matching what their mind is (thus, really needing a fix on themselves), and another is sexual orientation, which struggles only by what bigotries other people throw at them (this part needs other people to be less bigoted).



I'm very aware of this. And none of this applies when talking about gays. Gays are not a race.

You said I hated Gays and minorities when I was first asking questions. So you're right, Gays aren't a race. But I asked you which minorities I hated and you've somehow forgot you wrote it or have simply skipped over it every single reply.

Also I looked up Trumps views on Equality. He seems to have believed up until at least last year the whole one man one woman thing. Unfortunately, everything he's said THIS YEAR suggests he's changed his mind or is now more open to it, which is hopefully true.

[Vyxn]

Yes, let's electro shock the entitlement out of those millennials and send them into the Trump Jugend! /s

No it is time to pull up your big boy pants and learn to live in the real world from which you don't always get your way

[Deleted]

Just a bunch of drama queens untill suicide rates goes up by the same.

[Cyberowl]

So for example, should governments intervene on parents that feed their kids unhealthy food? Since that can lead to health problems.... how about teen pregnancies? That can lead to a lot of hardships as well. I'm not quite sure you are aware of the dangers that can come from government intervention. And what if that government intervention doesn't match up with what you believe?

That being said, if someone is unhappy with being gay, I don't see how it's your place to decide whether or not they should be able to seek out help.

Gay conversion camps aren't a sort of alternative medicine, they aren't just effectless, they are indeed harmful. It's the way to go if you want your kid to become a psychological wreck and/or kill themselves though.

[Vyxn]

Thank you, Mr. Deplorable, for doing your part in healing the US divide.

Elections have consequence and I won
you can ride in the back of the bus

any clue who said that?

[Deleted]

And I'm glad that those sorts of parties do not exist here. They are both terrible.

It depends where "here" is.

In the UK we have Labour being run by the Middle class Socialists just like the Democrats only cared about the vocal minorities.

All the problems in most western worlds are classiest issues, but the Middle Class Liberals want to feel special and fight against the man, so they turn it from a classiest issue into a "-ism" issue.

[Cyberowl]

It's fine to stab one side, but not the other eh Cyberowl?

I'm only calling people deplorable if they deserve it. Posting an image like that in the middle of an discussion about gay conversion camps and suicide hotlines qualifies him for it. Feel free to stab way.

[Deleted]

Gay conversion camps aren't a sort of alternative medicine, they aren't just effectless, they are indeed harmful. It's the way to go if you want your kid to become a psychological wreck and/or kill themselves though.

Actually, I would level that yes, Gay Conversion Camps are just as "Alternative medicine" as all the other Homeopathy or other bullshit medicines the hippies try and chalk to people, they're just two sides of the same coin.

[Jimolimo]

Gay conversion camps aren't a sort of alternative medicine, they aren't just effectless, they are indeed harmful. It's the way to go if you want your kid to become a psychological wreck and/or kill themselves though.

Okay so question about this. If gay conversion camps DID exist, would it be up to the government or the parents to try and "fix" the children. As in, do the parents choose to send them or does the government say "Your child is "broken", we're gonna "fix" it"?

[Cyberowl]

Elections have consequence and I won
you can ride in the back of the bus

any clue who said that?

Of course I do; Obama did.

Am I not allowed to criticize Pence for some reason now?

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Actually, I would level that yes, Gay Conversion Camps are just as "Alternative medicine" as all the other Homeopathy or other bullshit medicines the hippies try and chalk to people, they're just two sides of the same coin.

They are an alternative medicine akin to bloodletting. Pretty sure that shit is already illegal though, isn't it?

[Azadina]

You said I hated Gays and minorities when I was first asking questions. So you're right, Gays aren't a race. But I asked you which minorities I hated and you've somehow forgot you wrote it or have simply skipped over it every single reply.

Also I looked up Trumps views on Equality. He seems to have believed up until at least last year the whole one man one woman thing. Unfortunately, everything he's said THIS YEAR suggests he's changed his mind or is now more open to it, which is hopefully true.

And I didn't slip up with the minorities part. Mexicans are not a race, Muslims are not a race, The rest of LGBT is not a race. So on. But all of those are minorities.

Trumps campaign was against them all from the start. Republican party sure as hell is against them, Pence most of all.

It's not even Trump who is the worry, it's the party members in power who are. We'll see if Trump has changed his view, or if it was an election trick, but I very much doubt the party has changed their view at all, or even intends to.

To add: Whether you hate them or not, I don't know. But you said it's not a fair guess to make of people. Why not, when each one in the campaign is against something (Trump, Pence, the Republican party), it is a fair guess that whoever votes for them, agrees with it. It won't be true every time, but most of the time, it should ring true.