Should a blood test at birth be standard procedure to confirm who is the father?

[Deleted]

After seeing one of my employees break down this week because he found out (after more than a year) that "his" son wasn't his child at all but from another father we had a little discussion about the subject. One thing we (men) could agree about was that a blood test should be standard procedure at birth.

This can prevent future problems in the relationship and even more importantly: it can prevent a messed up childhood for the child.

What do you think, should a blood test be a standard procedure at birth to confirm the father is indeed the biological father?

[Deleted]

Oh sweet lord!

The muh-soggy-knee.

...Yes

[caervek]

Meh, there's enough blood involved, good idea.

[Azadina]

After seeing one of my employees break down this week because he found out (after more than a year) that "his" son wasn't his child at all but from another father we had a little discussion about the subject. One thing we (men) could agree about was that a blood test should be standard procedure at birth.

This can prevent future problems in the relationship and even more importantly: it can prevent a messed up childhood for the child.

What do you think, should a blood test be a standard procedure at birth to confirm the father is indeed the biological father?

You might have to explain that part, in the context of this thread. How is the child better off getting dumped, as opposed to not getting dumped?

Does the father have a right to know? Yes, why not. But don't pretend that it's in anyone elses favor, but the man. Trying to make it about the childs best interest is bs.

[Total Crica]

A blood test of just the baby is not going to tell you who the father is.

Unless the mother identifies every fertile male she has sex with, you are not going to be able to test anyone but the baby.

In other words, your idea doesn't always result in determining who is the father, but can help in determining who is not the father.

[Apom]

No healthcare system is going to finance DNA tests at birth and simple blood tests tell you nothing neither if your woman is pregnant from a father with the same blood type as yours, nor if the baby inherited the mother's blood type
So what is the point of your question

[Ratyrel]

I don't think generalised mistrust is really called for. I doubt that kind of thing is particularly common and the scientifically determined truth of a matter is not always the best for the people involved imo, sometimes life is better when being lied to benevolently.

[Flarelaine]

I do not think that would make much sense. If you cannot be certain of paternity, your relationship is fucked up, anyway.

And seeing how you would need a DNA test, we would probably be better off with a DNA screening early in the pregnancy to detect genetic conditions that the parents may not want to live with (Trisomy 21 being the best known example).

[s_bushido]

Um...no? Unless there's some reason for suspicion or uncertainty, I fail to see why it would be worth the cost, let alone the whole "them lyin', gold-digging bitches" angle...

[Deleted]

You might have to explain that part, in the context of this thread. How is the child better off getting dumped, as opposed to not getting dumped?

Does the father have a right to know? Yes, why not. But don't pretend that it's in anyone elses favor, but the man. Trying to make it about the childs best interest is bs.

Well, there are cases where the "father" finds out after many years and the child is already attached to him and vice versa.
I can't imagine this being a very healthy thing.

If you know right away at birth, at least the child (and father) don't have to live a lie for an X amount of years.

[Total Crica]

If you cannot be certain of paternity, your relationship is fucked up, anyway.

You can never be certain, only hopeful, without a test. =P (unless there are clear visual signs at birth, of course!)

Mamma's baby, Daddy's maybe!

[Deleted]

I don't think generalised mistrust is really called for. I doubt that kind of thing is particularly common and the scientifically determined truth of a matter is not always the best for the people involved imo, sometimes life is better when being lied to benevolently.

Better for the couple is subjective to say the least, for the child though undoubtedly; France is one of the countries whom practice "Peace within the family" and are complicit in further prohibiting the mans rights of ascertaining paternity which ironically is criminalized unless obtained through a french court (Lol).

[s_bushido]

Well, there are cases where the "father" finds out after many years and the child is already attached to him and vice versa.

If that's the case, what does a little DNA matter? You'd have to be some kind of asshole to spend years loving and treating a child as if they're your own to just suddenly abandon them when it turns out they aren't "yours."

[Imperial]

It absolutely should be, but a DNA test instead. Women are guaranteed knowledge that the child is their own, so should men. You couldn't pay me to raise someone else's child.

[Azadina]

Well, there are cases where the "father" finds out after many years and the child is already attached to him and vice versa.
I can't imagine this being a very healthy thing.

If you know right away at birth, at least the child (and father) don't have to live a lie for an X amount of years.

If they are already attached, I find it hard to imagine that some person could be so messed up, as to drop emotionally cold and despise a child they loved, due to no fault of the child.

And how is single parenthood a benefit to the child?

[Deleted]

If that's the case, what does a little DNA matter? You'd have to be some kind of asshole to spend years loving and treating a child as if they're your own to just suddenly abandon them when it turns out they aren't "yours."

Well... yes and no imo.

I can't imagine the feeling when finding our for example that some ex-boyfriend fathered the child and you are basically raising someone elses child.
Yes, some will love the child regardless but others might not. I wouldnt want to judge them if they didnt myself.

The point remains that it's all preventable if everyone is sure at birth.

[PassingBy]

If that's the case, what does a little DNA matter? You'd have to be some kind of asshole to spend years loving and treating a child as if they're your own to just suddenly abandon them when it turns out they aren't "yours."

So for the sake of the child a man should not only be forced to raise someone else's child, but also to keep living with the lying whore.
While also robbing him of the chance to have a child of his own with the woman that deserves it.

Good idea.

[Deleted]

Well... yes and no imo.

I can't imagine the feeling when finding our for example that some ex-boyfriend fathered the child and you are basically raising someone elses child.
Yes, some will love the child regardless but others might not. I wouldnt want to judge them if they didnt myself.

The point remains that it's all preventable if everyone is sure at birth.

Whilst paternity testing isn't mandated by any means for many health services it still remains an option, albeit private and paid by yours truly.

Very few countries outlaw paternity testing under strict criteria (E.G court ordered or otherwise) so it's not like we're second class citizens in regards to reproductive rights.

If the man wished to prove his paternity in the U.K he could do so quite easily and within reason without it being mandated.

[Deleted]

You might have to explain that part, in the context of this thread. How is the child better off getting dumped, as opposed to not getting dumped?

Does the father have a right to know? Yes, why not. But don't pretend that it's in anyone elses favor, but the man. Trying to make it about the childs best interest is bs.

So u don't mind having others bastards dumped into ur lap??

[PassingBy]

Whilst paternity testing isn't mandated by any means for many health services it still remains an option, albeit private and paid by yours truly.

Very few countries outlaw paternity testing under strict criteria (E.G court ordered or otherwise) so it's not like we're second class citizens in regards to reproductive rights.

If the man wished to prove his paternity in the U.K he could do so quite easily and within reason without it being mandated.

In many countries it is only possible with the approval of both parents.
So unless mother gives consent the said test will be illegal.