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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    It's not a bill, it's a document he makes his staffers sign, and it has nothing to do with congress. Violation of the document would be a civil matter, but the DoJ would be the plaintiff.
    Slick willy clinton had the same thing and then voided it in his last year of office

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    That's the agreement. Seems like you didn't read that part and instead choose to take an inflammatory position because you don't like trump? Yeah air conditioning is going away folks! Batman is giving us insider news!
    Seems the agreement was to keep their factories in the US for 700k in tax breaks a year, not to keep workers employed. Half of those jobs were already moved to Mexico and they're keeping the other half for the tax breaks and juicy socialist government contracts that Trumpkins are going to love handing out for the next 4 years. Then when they automate all the floor jobs and keep on 50 engineers - that's it - Trumpers will call it a win. Cause it's totally worth picking winners and losers in business and millions in taxpayer dollars for a few dated jobs.

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    Just need to laugh at the fact that it was 800 jobs, but the Trump team apparently didn't think that sounded good enough, so they just lie and said 1100.

    Apparently we're not going to just be able to believe a single thing this administration says since they have to apparently lie about something for no apparent reason other than to make himself look good.
    He's lied about his wealth, he's pretty much lied about everything. What's funny is I got into it with a Trumpkin over "It's not LYING, it's just EXAGGERATING," as if exaggerating as if the exaggeration is the truth isn't lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    And then blamed the successor for not cleaning up the mess fast enough.
    To be fair, Bush Jr didn't have much, if anything to do with 2008 collapse. That was a time bomb set in motion by Bill Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    To be fair, Bush Jr didn't have much, if anything to do with 2008 collapse. That was a time bomb set in motion by Bill Clinton.
    What do you mean to be fair?

    The entire Bush policy involved trickle down economics, it was this principle that brought down the US economy and what effected the world economy as a whole and not anything that Clinton did.

    Republican politics always come back to trickle down, this is by definition the stupidest thing people ever came up with unless their only intention was to enrich themselves.

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    Donald Trump could fucking resurrect Jesus and Cure Cancer for all I care, he still deserves every bad thing that happens to him.

    EVERY bad thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by XangXu View Post
    Donald Trump could fucking resurrect Jesus and Cure Cancer for all I care, he still deserves every bad thing that happens to him.

    EVERY bad thing
    Well at least you have a well reasoned position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    What do you mean to be fair?

    The entire Bush policy involved trickle down economics, it was this principle that brought down the US economy and what effected the world economy as a whole and not anything that Clinton did.

    Republican politics always come back to trickle down, this is by definition the stupidest thing people ever came up with unless their only intention was to enrich themselves.
    Are you really seriously suggesting trickle down economics was the cause of banks taking predatory loans and then trading it?
    I am so uninformed, as is everyone else, plz educate us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Are you really seriously suggesting trickle down economics was the cause of banks taking predatory loans and then trading it?
    I am so uninformed, as is everyone else, plz educate us
    It's the policy that comes with it and how it effects government spending.

    If you lower taxes and regulations just so it benefits a small percentage of people it doesn't create jobs, it hurts jobs because government gets less revenue which results in less government spending.

    Government needs to spend money, it allows normal citizens more breathing space when it comes to their own financial situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    To be fair, Bush Jr didn't have much, if anything to do with 2008 collapse. That was a time bomb set in motion by Bill Clinton.
    Are you refering to Glass-Steagall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Are you refering to Glass-Steagall?
    Sounds like it.
    And damn me, but I have to agree. It was just a matter of time that the banking industry would screw things up. (Greenspan didn't think it would. But he had dumb libertarian ideals that he would later say that such ideals were pretty much to blame)

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    As an update the carrier CEO just gave an interview to Jim Cramer -
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/05/cnbc-...mer-today.html

    The stand out bit is this -

    JIM CRAMER: But if you-- come up with a not competitive-- okay-- not competitive, whatever. You-- not competitive engines. You will lose to others.

    GREG HAYES: Right. Well, and again, if you think about what we talked about last week we're gonna make up $16 million investment in that factory in Indianapolis to automate to drive the cost down so that we can continue to be competitive. Now is it as cheap as moving to Mexico with lower cost labor? No. But we will make that plant competitive just because we'll make the capital investments there.

    JIM CRAMER: Right.

    GREG HAYES: But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs.
    So it looks like those jobs are only going to be saved for a few years. They will quite soon be automated away.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    To be fair, Bush Jr didn't have much, if anything to do with 2008 collapse. That was a time bomb set in motion by Bill Clinton.
    Clinton didn't start Reaganomics, he just didn't do enough to fight against it.

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    Just watched the news a minute ago, apparently Trump signed a deal with sprint for them to invest 50 BILLION dollars and bring 50k jobs to the US.....
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Just watched the news a minute ago, apparently Trump signed a deal with sprint for them to invest 50 BILLION dollars and bring 50k jobs to the US.....
    Really, he signed a deal in what capacity? Jesus, fucking Trumpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Just watched the news a minute ago, apparently Trump signed a deal with sprint for them to invest 50 BILLION dollars and bring 50k jobs to the US.....
    Parent company of Sprint. Probably hopes that Trump will do something to allow the Sprint/T-Mobile merger. Seeing as Sprint is laying off and restructuring, I doubt those jobs are from them, but rather from some other company under SoftBank.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4f00f5f7b553

    Also as far as the $50 billion, this was something planned in October when Nobody thought Donald had a chance, (The republicans and even Fox news had written him off), so most likely Donny did jack squat and is taking credit for it. http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/06/tech...ank/index.html It's crony capitalism at its worst. Your ability to succeed in business is based on your relationships with people in government rather than a fair playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4f00f5f7b553

    Also as far as the $50 billion, this was something planned in October when Nobody thought Donald had a chance, (The republicans and even Fox news had written him off), so most likely Donny did jack squat and is taking credit for it. http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/06/tech...ank/index.html It's crony capitalism at its worst. Your ability to succeed in business is based on your relationships with people in government rather than a fair playing field.
    The CEO of the parent company pretty much said that the remaining jobs will be automated as well. The jobs are staying in US, but won't be ran by humans. Basically, we are paying 7 million to United Technologies for them to automate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Clinton didn't start Reaganomics, he just didn't do enough to fight against it.
    I wouldn't go around informed people saying Reaganomics was the cause of 2008 meltdown

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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...QLA?li=BBnb7Kz

    So it wasn't over 1100 jobs like Trump said, more like 730......

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    Trump Launches Tweet Attack on Carrier Steel Union Boss.

    Trump is now attacking the leader of blue collar union workers by name. This is reckless. He's already receiving death threats.

    Get off Twitter, shut your mouth, and get to work.
    Eat yo vegetables

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