Is Demon Hunter a fun class to play?

[Ielenia]

Never said that's all you did, nice logical fallacy. Pressing a button multiple times in short succession or many times more than other buttons over the course of a fight constitutes spamming.

Hilarious how triggered you people are.

First off: nice ad-hominem at the end. It always amuses me how some people seem to think that insulting opposition makes their own argument stronger.

Second: that's exactly what your comment implies. Your comment is akin to saying "do you like spamming Crusader Strike? If yes, play Ret Paladin, if no, don't" or "do you like spamming Fireball? If yes, play Fire Mage, if no, don't"

Your comment about "spamming Chaos Strike" was very poorly worded, becoming more of a derisive commentary about the class, than helpful advice.

[Deleted]

Actually every class in WoW is spamming some single skill + few big cds which are used every 3-4 minutes. For me actually questing, pvp and etc are the places where you can judge does class is interesting or not.

Gameplay:
-Double jump + glide is something which no one else has by default and almost all other big mmos has (like GW2). Once you start using it, actually you will start dieing from jumping from big cliffs very often with other characters . This is maybe really the most important thing of demon hunter.
-AOE is pretty good. You can taunt 15 mobs and killing them for 5-10 second (rotation cd is 45 second).
-The most important part is that for every killed npc in return you receive 25% heal. This really speed up playing. When I try to play with warrior again it was awful to heal after every 2-3 battles.

SO IMO actually playing Demon Hunter is really nice and easy. And when I say easy, I mean that it saves you huge amount of time for healing, running around big mountains, killing 1000 rats 1 by 1 and etc. Which actually I don't understand why some classes without adequate aoe or heal should suffer.

- On other hand damage is pretty good. Not so complicated rotation. AOE Fight normally are the best for Demon Hunters, but pretty good single target dps as well. From 7.1.5 patch most likely this will be even better for single target.

[Narzok]

you can avoid almost all problems of DH if you don't care about doing less dmg than top mythic players.

i play with fel eruption since DH went live, and i have an absolute blast, even if it is the worst (and according to others) most boring talent on that row.

If you want to top meters in competitive play (against others with equal gear/skill): don't play DH
If you want a static, reliable melee with focus on rotation and no useless movement: don't play DH
If you want a melee that plays unlike any melee before, with the added bonus of a tank offspecc, GO PLAY DH

[Ielenia]

Gameplay:
-Double jump + glide is something which no one else has by default and almost all other big mmos has (like GW2). Once you start using it, actually you will start dieing from jumping from big cliffs very often with other characters . This is maybe really the most important thing of demon hunter.

This is true. I lost count the times I had to resurrect at the spirit healer after trying to 'glide' on my monk, and fall to my death on an unreachable place.

-The most important part is that for every killed npc in return you receive 25% heal. This really speed up playing. When I try to play with warrior again it was awful to heal after every 2-3 battles.

Kinda-half-truth. You need to deliver the killing blow to the NPC to get the soul fragment to spawn. It doesn't matter if you did 99% of the damage, but if a priest swoops in and delivers the killing blow with a well-timed Shadow Word: Pain, the soul fragment won't spawn.

[Deleted]

Its a dps like the majority of Legion dps: tunnel vision and flashy

[High Marshal Sigismund]

First off: nice ad-hominem at the end. It always amuses me how some people seem to think that insulting opposition makes their own argument stronger.

Second: that's exactly what your comment implies. Your comment is akin to saying "do you like spamming Crusader Strike? If yes, play Ret Paladin, if no, don't" or "do you like spamming Fireball? If yes, play Fire Mage, if no, don't"

Your comment about "spamming Chaos Strike" was very poorly worded, becoming more of a derisive commentary about the class, than helpful advice.

Not an ad-hominem if I addressed the point directly first. Try harder.

Frankly, you're the one who seems triggered. Nice ad-hom.

Someone asked if the class was fun, you implied simply pressing an ability (Chaos Strike) constitutes the entire rotation.

I also think you mentioning logical fallacies is quite interesting because of your feeble use of the English language. If you thought someone would interpret your statement about Chaos Strike more than "spamming" that one ability, then you're an idiot. If not, then you're intellectually dishonest. Which one is it?

Oh man the sheer irony. Criticizes me for using ad-hominem then goes on to directly use it. Brilliant.

Face it, you can't handle the fact that the spec utilizes Chaos Strike a ton, and will continue to utilize it even more in 7.1.5. It's the nature of the spec, don't lash out at me because I stated the obvious. Chaos Strike is absolutely pressed a ton more times than any other ability during encounters.

Please keep sending me paragraphs upon paragraphs of tears though, it's amazing what kind of reactions you can unwillingly incite just based off a few words here.

[Orangetai420]

So you are confused.

Here, let me clarify: The DH is a fun class if you like spamming Chaos Strike, as it is the bread and butter of our rotation. You are welcome.

And fireball is the bread and butter of fire mages. Do you see his point now? You're welcome.

[Deleted]

Not an ad-hominem if I addressed the point directly first. Try harder.



Oh man the sheer irony. Criticizes me for using ad-hominem then goes on to directly use it. Brilliant.

Face it, you can't handle the fact that the spec utilizes Chaos Strike a ton, and will continue to utilize it even more in 7.1.5. It's the nature of the spec, don't lash out at me because I stated the obvious. Chaos Strike is absolutely pressed a ton more times than any other ability during encounters.

Please keep sending me paragraphs upon paragraphs of tears though, it's amazing what kind of reactions you can unwillingly incite just based off a few words here.

Almost every class/spec has a filler spell they use more often than other spells. They are right about the way you come across, must have a hard time making friends with that kind of attitude!

[Ielenia]

Not an ad-hominem if I addressed the point directly first. Try harder.

First: you still used of insults toward me and other people who disagreed wit you. The only one who needs to 'try harder', in this case, is you: try to make your arguments without insulting others. It'll make for more civilized discussions.

Second: I see you completely missed the main argument in the post you quoted. Nice job. You just say "I addressed it", which you didn't.

[Crookids]

Not an ad-hominem if I addressed the point directly first. Try harder.



Oh man the sheer irony. Criticizes me for using ad-hominem then goes on to directly use it. Brilliant.

Face it, you can't handle the fact that the spec utilizes Chaos Strike a ton, and will continue to utilize it even more in 7.1.5. It's the nature of the spec, don't lash out at me because I stated the obvious. Chaos Strike is absolutely pressed a ton more times than any other ability during encounters.

Please keep sending me paragraphs upon paragraphs of tears though, it's amazing what kind of reactions you can unwillingly incite just based off a few words here.

Your argument has already been dismantled -- but I'll bite anyway.

First, I never criticized you for using an ad-hom. Second, none of my statements actually exhibited the logical fallacy. Your usage of the English language (in your comments) is feeble. This is fact. You're stupid if you thought people would not take your comment at face value. This is fact. If you did, then you are intellectually dishonest. This is fact. My advice would be to avoid this posture.

Third, I am not lashing out at anyone. I am simply pointing out the flaws in your logic (or lack thereof).

Fourth, I am not even a Demon Hunter which is clear from my signature. I also never stated I was so it's best not to assume and you're begging the question.

I'm also having trouble locating these 'tears' you seem to be so presumptive to point out. Do you always straw-man your way out of a disagreement or do you actually think pretending other people are triggered actually makes you look less agitated? Yes, ironic indeed.

You're 0-2 snowflake. Do you want to try again?

[High Marshal Sigismund]

First off: nice ad-hominem at the end. It always amuses me how some people seem to think that insulting opposition makes their own argument stronger.

Second: that's exactly what your comment implies. Your comment is akin to saying "do you like spamming Crusader Strike? If yes, play Ret Paladin, if no, don't" or "do you like spamming Fireball? If yes, play Fire Mage, if no, don't"

Your comment about "spamming Chaos Strike" was very poorly worded, becoming more of a derisive commentary about the class, than helpful advice.

And fireball is the bread and butter of fire mages. Do you see his point now? You're welcome.

Almost every class/spec has a filler spell they use more often than other spells. They are right about the way you come across, must have a hard time making friends with that kind of attitude!

First: you still used of insults toward me and other people who disagreed wit you. The only one who needs to 'try harder', in this case, is you: try to make your arguments without insulting others. It'll make for more civilized discussions.

Second: I see you completely missed the main argument in the post you quoted. Nice job. You just say "I addressed it", which you didn't.

Your argument has already been dismantled -- but I'll bite anyway.

First, I never criticized you for using an ad-hom. Second, none of my statements actually exhibited the logical fallacy. Your usage of the English language (in your comments) is feeble. This is fact. You're stupid if you thought people would not take your comment at face value. This is fact. If you did, then you are intellectually dishonest. This is fact. My advice would be to avoid this posture.

Third, I am not lashing out at anyone. I am simply pointing out the flaws in your logic (or lack thereof).

Fourth, I am not even a Demon Hunter which is clear from my signature. I also never stated I was so it's best not to assume and you're begging the question.

I'm also having trouble locating these 'tears' you seem to be so presumptive to point out. Do you always straw-man your way out of a disagreement or do you actually think pretending other people are triggered actually makes you look less agitated? Yes, ironic indeed.

You're 0-2 snowflake. Do you want to try again?

Blah blah blah blah. Chaos Strike is pressed multiple times in quick succession therefore it is a spammable skill. This is simple logic even a simpleton should be able to grasp. You have provided exactly 0 arguments that refute this claim because you are unable to do so.

With the ring, even more so. It's amazing how a simple statement can trigger so many people. Please get over yourselves lol. Or not, and provide me with more entertainment, either way, I don't care.

1v4 and I still win, damn I should do world PvP.

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[UnknownShadows00]

I absolutely love the class - the movement is amazingly fun, the rotation is good for the most part, and being an AoE monster when all of your CDs get popped in a giant crowd is an epic feeling. The only two things I'm not liking at the moment is the lack of a build spell being the optimal choice and falling far behind most other classes during boss battles.

Of course, I'm not the most dedicated player, so I'm sure a lot of the damage issue is my own fault of inexperience, but I feel I do a lot more singular damage with every other DPS I play. I guess it really is a cleave class.

[Ealyssa]

XXX is pressed multiple times in quick succession therefore it is a spammable skill.

Definition of World of warcraft's gameplay. You proved nothing.

If you see the whole world having issues with you, YOU are the problem not them...

[High Marshal Sigismund]

Definition of World of warcraft's gameplay

Not, not really. Certain classes are tailored not to spam, e.g. Windwalker Monks.

Stop posting.

No one can refute my argument, all you do is post irrelevant garbage because you're mad at me for slandering the class you play. It's sad and you need to stop. For your own sakes.

[Matchles]

Combat aside, double jump and glide will make it incredibly difficult to go back to your old classes to traverse the world.

[Ielenia]

Blah blah blah blah. Chaos Strike is pressed multiple times in quick succession therefore it is a spammable skill. This is simple logic even a simpleton should be able to grasp. You have provided exactly 0 arguments that refute this claim because you are unable to do so.

Speaking of "simple logic" and "simpletons"-- by the way, nice ad hominem, again-- you really seem to have a problem admitting that your original post was very, very poorly worded. Maybe you didn't intend it as such, but does come across very confrontational, very much like a very derisive commentary about the class, as if all it did in a rotation was spam Chaos Strike.

It's amazing how a simple statement can trigger so many people. Please get over yourselves lol.

I do believe we asked you to curb the veiled insults toward people. But speaking of "triggering", the only one acting like such appears to be you, as you immediately resorted to personal insults toward people who didn't agree with you, and refuse to address the poor wording of your original post.

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Not, not really. Certain classes are tailored not to spam, e.g. Windwalker Monks.

One spec of one class. The rest? Spam-a-ton! At least according to what you consider 'spamming a skill'.

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Combat aside, double jump and glide will make it incredibly difficult to go back to your old classes to traverse the world.

More than that, DH's mastery, on top of increasing your Chaos damage, also increases your movement speed by the same %. I once had over 30% run speed. That's as fast as the Shaman's ghost wolf form, but they can't fight in GW form.

[Veiled Shadow]

You can find a build that doesn't require you to use Fel Rush all the time, but those builds usually lag behind Fel Rush builds.

No. Every demon hunter needs to Fel Rush on CD regardless of talents chosen for optimal DPS.

(This is mainly due to the 0.5s GCD for Fel Rush giving it a high DPET even without any of the talents that require its use like Fel Mastery or Momentum).

[Meanshield]

Tank yes, DPS no.

[Crookids]

This is simple logic even a simpleton should be able to grasp. You have provided exactly 0 arguments that refute this claim because you are unable to do so.

I refuse to believe you are this stupid.

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[High Marshal Sigismund]

Blah blah blah

Lo and behold, another post with absolutely 0 arguments against my main point. You seem really confused.

Think I'll just put you on ignore because you have nothing worthwhile to say.