Wilders: Merkel has blood on her hands after Berlin

[schwarzkopf]

If you want to assign blood, how about we look at why all the Syrians are running out of their country.

That's not a mainland European country..

[Mayhem]

Cite your source?

He gave you his source, his eyes!

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Honest question, I see that many/majority of the posters both here and elsewhere (esp. Neogaf) is incrediblypro-immigration, even when you obviously cant guarantee the safety of your own people.

Would you people, who are pro-immigration (on this scale) still think the same if one of these events affected you? Your family? siblings? Or even kids? Would you still support the likes of Merkel?

As a swede, it feels almost like the people who dont have to live around the multicultural areas, OR are affect of the negative consequences are the ones who are so incredibly supportive of it.

Saving people who flees from war is a noble thought, and I, like you and many others wish the killing around the globe would stop, and immigration is fine and dandy, but NOT if you cant guarantee the safety of your own peers. Atleast that's how I see it.

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He gave you his source, his eyes!

He must have some amazing vision watching the vetting process from the land down under. Seriously I need to get his opticians phone number

[Ricje]

Wilders, the Trump of the Netherlands without Trumps money.

Shouldn't it be "Trump, the Wilders of the United States but with a lot more money"? Wilders has been doing what he's doing for years whereas Trump didn't really hit the news until the whole president election thing.

[Tailswipe]

I was unaware that the German chancellor had unrestricted power and essentially a monarch.

From the news reports at the time it sounded like she took a unilateral decision to open the flood gates. Did she put it to a vote in the German parliament?

[Mayhem]

Honest question, I see that many/majority of the posters both here and elsewhere (esp. Neogaf) is incrediblypro-immigration, even when you obviously cant guarantee the safety of your own people.

Would you people, who are pro-immigration (on this scale) still think the same if one of these events affected you? Your family? siblings? Or even kids? Would you still support the likes of Merkel?

As a swede, it feels almost like the people who dont have to live around the multicultural areas, OR are affect of the negative consequences are the ones who are so incredibly supportive of it.

Saving people who flees from war is a noble thought, and I, like you and many others wish the killing around the globe would stop, but NOT if you cant guarantee the safety of your own peers.

I´m living in a city that took in more refugees from the ME in 2015 than the UK and the US combined. I´m also living a 5 mins walk away from a refugee center.

You can never guarantee safety. Being unreasonable just because it affected you personally doesn´t make it reasonable.

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I´m living in a city that took in more refugees from the ME in 2015 than the UK and the US combined. I´m also living a 5 mins walk away from a refugee center.

You can never guarantee safety. Being unreasonable just because it affected you personally doesn´t make it reasonable.

Exactly, if anything people are afraid, key word there being fear. If you're giving in to fear over the unknown then great job, you've just let terrorism do its thing.

[Foosha]

Keep having a victim complex. You dont even respond to my main argument. It doesnt even fuckin matter on here, yet you take everything so goddamn seriously hahahahahaha jesus christ mate, take a chill pill. Whats your blood pressure at? Is your mom still a wanker? I'm not going to browse through your post history because that's worse than getting rectal cancer from Jamal and Muhammed raping me 24/7. Keep at it tho, here I'll feed your victim complex some more

The irish deserved the potato famine


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I´m living in a city that took in more refugees from the ME in 2015 than the UK and the US combined. I´m also living a 5 mins walk away from a refugee center.

You can never guarantee safety. Being unreasonable just because it affected you personally doesn´t make it reasonable.

Okay, though my question was, IF these events directly affected you and your loved ones, would you mind change? if you lost your lover? your kids? Kinda curious to know.

[Torto]

He must have some amazing vision watching the vetting process from the land down under. Seriously I need to get his opticians phone number

I can see because I choose not to be blind. Try it sometime.

Tell me this, with Europe's 'brilliant and fool proof vetting system', how do you explain all the terrorist attacks that have happened in France, Belgium, etc? How many were home grown and how many slipped through the system?

We went through all this illegal immigration crap down under, the only way to stop it is to not let them in in the first place.

[Deleted]

From the news reports at the time it sounded like she took a unilateral decision to open the flood gates. Did she put it to a vote in the German parliament?

Well that was somewhat was I hinting at, it is outside of the German chancellors power to make such a decision unilaterally. But I can understand why people think that she might have done so, usually when big political things are decided upon, it is either the political leader of the party that gets mentioned or the spearheader of the legislation.
That of course still does put her in a position where certain amounts of responsibility should fall upon her, since she was the spearheader (that and two other politicians).

[Deleted]

Keep having a victim complex. You dont even respond to my main argument. It doesnt even fuckin matter on here, yet you take everything so goddamn seriously hahahahahaha jesus christ mate, take a chill pill. Whats your blood pressure at? Is your mom still a wanker? I'm not going to browse through your post history because that's worse than getting rectal cancer from Jamal and Muhammed raping me 24/7. Keep at it tho, here I'll feed your victim complex some more

The irish deserved the potato famine

Yeah buddy, you've been dodging questions left right and fucking center, so who's calling the kettle black? You really do gotta love the little men that resort to personal attacks when they cant speak. Ah bless, I really do feel sorry for you. Do you want a hug?

(Still waiting for you to quote my cognitive dissonance by the way, I dont think you'll find anything though, I know you're one of those people that pulls words out of their ass, thanks for proving my point though and making a complete ass out of yourself )

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I can see because I choose not to be blind. Try it sometime.

Tell me this, with Europe's 'brilliant and fool proof vetting system', how do you explain all the terrorist attacks that have happened in France, Belgium, etc? How many were home grown and how many slipped through the system?

We went through all this illegal immigration crap down under, the only way to stop it is to not let them in in the first place.

You do know the attacks in France happened BEFORE the max influx of refugees right? Also that the attackers were EUROPEAN and radicalized HERE.

Salah Abdeslam
Born 15 September 1989 (age 27) Brussels, Belgium
Nationality French

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This is why the right wing in the US wants an extensive vetting process, they care about their own first.

Exactly! Instead of islam extremists murdering their own, they'd rather have their own murder their own.

[araine]

I only hope the rest of the world learn from germanys mistakes here, I fear what sack licker's like trudeau will do

Germany have not made a mistake, the mistake is that we tolerate the racism and fascism to spread like the fucking plague it is

[Shadowmelded]

It's Merkel's fault and the higher politicians for allowing such a number of refugees to enter without having some form of plan to adequately integrate the MUSLIMS into a predominantly CHRISTIAN and SECULAR society.

How can it be both "predominantly CHRISTIAN" and "SECULAR" ???

[araine]

Yeah buddy, you've been dodging questions left right and fucking center, so who's calling the kettle black? You really do gotta love the little men that resort to personal attacks when they cant speak. Ah bless, I really do feel sorry for you. Do you want a hug?

(Still waiting for you to quote my cognitive dissonance by the way, I dont think you'll find anything though, I know you're one of those people that pulls words out of their ass, thanks for proving my point though and making a complete ass out of yourself )

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You do know the attacks in France happened BEFORE the max influx of refugees right? Also that the attackers were EUROPEAN and radicalized HERE.

The attacks in New York was long long long before you got that syrian BS excuse same with the attacks in London long long long before the refugee crisis. just proves what we have always known that the agenda of the extreme right dont care about facts

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How can it be both "predominantly CHRISTIAN" and "SECULAR" ???

Don't bother with Foosha, he likes to pull words out of his ass, he's only proven this fact multiple times in this thread alone.

[Flarelaine]

I have news for you: You cannot control terrorism. NEVER EVER. You can only create an environment where it's harder for terrorism to breed, and this is exactly what Merkel did.

Mostly agreed, though instead maybe we should say that is the path Merkel started on and she may not manage to walk it all the way with these upheavals (terribly convenient for all opponents of Willkommenskultur, at home or abroad).

You can also create an environment where people go on with their lives - as Berliners do now - instead of freaking out. Keeping calm defeats the ultimate purpose of terrorism, fear itself. We all have to accept that some things are beyond control. A madmen hijacked a truck and murdered people which is terrible, but how exactly can one make sure it does not happen again? Do you* escort every single truck with an armed guard? What if that guard decided to do something memorable, like the young Turkish policeman just did in Ankara?

*Generic "you".

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The attacks in New York was long long long before you got that syrian BS excuse same with the attacks in London long long long before the refugee crisis. just proves what we have always known that the agenda of the extreme right dont care about facts

Exactly my point! Thank you!