Tax cuts are old and outdated -Swedish finance minister.

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Tax cuts are old and outdated.
It is obvious that large tax cuts are not what Sweden need. That era is over in Swedish politics. Said Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview with Dagens Industri, published on Tuesday.

Sweden has the second highest income tax rate in the world, and the highest in Europe, with a 56.6% deducted from annual income and have the highest marginal tax in the world.

Source in Swedish
http://www.svd.se/skattesankningar-a...lt-och-mossigt

As someone who is already subject to state taxation because of my (relatively) high salary this is just completely insane to me. On top of this i have to pay a 25% VAT on everything i buy and on top of that extra taxes on some items such as alcohol, tobacco, gasoline, cars etc.

Do you think our new feminist government is on to something here? Is paying low taxes an outdated model? Should every country drastically raise taxes?
Do our finance minister possess some kind of new groundbreaking knowledge in economics that the rest of the world have yet to learn?

[Thepersona]

To answer you, well yes, tax cuts (for the rich) are a bogus solution. Its called trickle down economics. And it doesn't work.
Now, for increasing taxes... well thats harder than you think.

[Spectral]

Indeed, the only reasonable place for taxes to go is up! What kind of economic illiterate would suggest that there could ever be a situation where taxes could plausibly drop?

[Aggrophobic]

It's "insane" when you already have a lot.

[Cybran]

Indeed, the only reasonable place for taxes to go is up! What kind of economic illiterate would suggest that there could ever be a situation where taxes could plausibly drop?

Taxes can only rise when the end goal is to have a pure communist society where the state supplies everyone with what it deems they deserve.

[Queen of Hamsters]

... "Our new feminist government"...?
What...

[Deleted]

Indeed, the only reasonable place for taxes to go is up! What kind of economic illiterate would suggest that there could ever be a situation where taxes could plausibly drop?

Perhaps we should tax workers 100% and instead institute a form of stipend everyone receives in stead that covers the bare necessities? That would show solidarity.

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... "Our new feminist government"...?
What...

They're 100% liberal feminists and cultural Marxists.

[Deleted]

Leaning towards communism there.

People/business with money will simply move to another location (if they haven't already).

[Deleted]

Tax cuts for those who earn very little actually do make sense. It's when you get less tax revenue from those people than supporting entire taxation administration costs.

[Deleted]

Tax cuts are old and outdated.
It is obvious that large tax cuts are not what Sweden need. That era is over in Swedish politics. Said Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview with Dagens Industri, published on Tuesday.

Sweden has the second highest income tax rate in the world, and the highest in Europe, with a 56.6% deducted from annual income and have the highest marginal tax in the world.

Source in Swedish
http://www.svd.se/skattesankningar-a...lt-och-mossigt

As someone who is already subject to state taxation because of my (relatively) high salary this is just completely insane to me. On top of this i have to pay a 25% VAT on everything i buy and on top of that extra taxes on some items such as alcohol, tobacco, gasoline, cars etc.

Do you think our new feminist government is on to something here? Is paying low taxes an outdated model? Should everyone country drastically raise taxes?
Do our finance minister possess some kind of new groundbreaking knowledge in economics that the rest of the world have yet to learn?

Tax cuts do no real good. The money you "save" still isn't money freed up for you to use. Your costs will go up as a result of the government not having that money they lose from the tax cut.
One way or another, you have to pay. Just look at the US and their horrendous health insurance system. You think paying less taxes helps anyone with their health?
We enjoy more freedom and liberty than they do and both of those cost money. Our lives are more equal. Our lives are more valued. All because we share in the cost of what it means to have our country.

I suggest you study the history of the Social Democracts and worker unions from the early 1900's, what they did for Sweden, why and how. Solidarity, freedom and liberty are Swedens core values and I'd hate to see them erroded with selfserving, selfish, arrogant mindsets from abroad.
People back then wanted equal chance for a good life, equal opportunity and freedom. They achieved it by coming together and founding the core values of our country today, so that nobody would be controlled by some lord or forced into anything or told they're not allowed to aspire above their "station".
We are not ruled by corporate greed.
We don't owe our lives to the people with the most money.
When we go to vote we know our votes matter and that we're not voting for some corporate puppet or warmongering billionaire.

Such things aren't free. But perhaps you're too young to know of any kind of struggle like that. Perhaps the system that your parents and their parents built for you have spoiled you so that you don't know what you've got. Well I don't want to live in Little America, where money and selfishness is the top priority. I know there are many, many Americans out there that would agree with that sentiment but have lost all hope that their voice can even be heard.

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... "Our new feminist government"...?
What...

I'm gonna take a guess that the OP voted rightwing.

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Taxes can only rise when the end goal is to have a pure communist society where the state supplies everyone with what it deems they deserve.

I wouldn't expect you of all people to know squat about my country or its values.

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Indeed, the only reasonable place for taxes to go is up! What kind of economic illiterate would suggest that there could ever be a situation where taxes could plausibly drop?

Not in our current situation that's for sure. It's quite the opposite, we need a lot more money for pretty much everything. So cutting anyones taxes as it is today would be a bad thing.

[Torto]

There isn't a tax the socialists have seen that they didn't like.

They don't like common folk having money, they prefer to spend it for you

[kamuimac]

Tax cuts are old and outdated.
It is obvious that large tax cuts are not what Sweden need. That era is over in Swedish politics. Said Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview with Dagens Industri, published on Tuesday.

Sweden has the second highest income tax rate in the world, and the highest in Europe, with a 56.6% deducted from annual income and have the highest marginal tax in the world.

Source in Swedish
http://www.svd.se/skattesankningar-a...lt-och-mossigt

As someone who is already subject to state taxation because of my (relatively) high salary this is just completely insane to me. On top of this i have to pay a 25% VAT on everything i buy and on top of that extra taxes on some items such as alcohol, tobacco, gasoline, cars etc.

Do you think our new feminist government is on to something here? Is paying low taxes an outdated model? Should every country drastically raise taxes?
Do our finance minister possess some kind of new groundbreaking knowledge in economics that the rest of the world have yet to learn?

dont compare Swedish tax model to other - its pointless - it working there only because they have super well functioning social system - yes you pay a lot but you take back a lot of what you paid in various sources . most coutries would need to rebuild their social support system from scratch .

[Deleted]

Tax cuts do no real good. The money you "save" still isn't money freed up for you to use. Your costs will go up as a result of the government not having that money they lose from the tax cut.
One way or another, you have to pay. Just look at the US and their horrendous health insurance system. You think paying less taxes helps anyone with their health?
We enjoy more freedom and liberty than they do and both of those cost money. Our lives are more equal. Our lives are more valued. All because we share in the cost of what it means to have our country.

I suggest you study the history of the Social Democracts and worker unions from the early 1900's, what they did for Sweden, why and how. Solidarity, freedom and liberty are Swedens core values and I'd hate to see them erroded with selfserving, selfish, arrogant mindsets from abroad.
People back then wanted equal chance for a good life, equal opportunity and freedom. They achieved it by coming together and founding the core values of our country today, so that nobody would be controlled by some lord or forced into anything or told they're not allowed to aspire above their "station".
We are not ruled by corporate greed.
We don't owe our lives to the people with the most money.
When we go to vote we know our votes matter and that we're not voting for some corporate puppet or warmongering billionaire.

Such things aren't free. But perhaps you're too young to know of any kind of struggle like that. Perhaps the system that your parents and their parents built for you have spoiled you so that you don't know what you've got. Well I don't want to live in Little America, where money and selfishness is the top priority. I know there are many, many Americans out there that would agree with that sentiment but have lost all hope that their voice can even be heard.

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I'm gonna take a guess that the OP voted rightwing.

I just want to make a good life for myself and those close to me, and if the gods are willing be able to retire and live well on what i have earned before i die of a heart attack in my office. There is nothing noble about being a wage slave until your turn 80 only to retire on a poor mans pension.

I'm at the age where i'm seeing relatives dying like flies and it really makes me question my own prospects for the future. I only have a finite time to earn enough money to secure my own retirement and my government isn't making it easy on me, instead they are removing tax incentives to privately save for retirement and such.

All i'm asking for is a fair chance to earn money while working hard without getting stifled by the government and jealous liberals.

[Deleted]

There isn't a tax the socialists have seen that they didn't like.

They don't like common folk having money, they prefer to spend it for you

It is kinda interesting that the government takes away your money if though they basically work for us?

[Deleted]

I'm gonna take a guess that the OP voted rightwing.

Of course i did. You'd have to be insane to vote left. These maniacs are destroying everything we've built and you are applauding them?

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There isn't a tax the socialists have seen that they didn't like.

They don't like common folk having money, they prefer to spend it for you

Yup.

/10char

[Deleted]

Leaning towards communism there.

People/business with money will simply move to another location (if they haven't already).

Iz ebul comunistments!!! -.-

[Deleted]

I just want to make a good life for myself and those close to me, and if the gods are willing be able to retire and live well on what i have earned before i die of a heart attack in my office. There is nothing noble about being a wage slave until your turn 80 only to retire on a poor mans pension.

I'm at the age where i'm seeing relatives dying like flies and it really makes me question my own prospects for the future. I only have a finite time to earn enough money to secure my own retirement and my government isn't making it easy on me, instead they are removing tax incentives to privately save for retirement and such.

All i'm asking for is a fair chance to earn money while working hard without getting stifled by the government and jealous liberals.

And you wish to achieve this by being selfish? If you don't want to give, you won't receive either.
Wage slave? What alternative do you suggest?

We've all got apprehensions of mortality. We're all fucked in the end. But you've got a job, you seem to say you've got it pretty decent, stop comparing yourself to those above you and compare yourself to those below you. If you're a man with a good job, a good pay, your own house and family, I envy you. My life has been hell and I'd give an arm and a leg to have a normal, average life.

You have a much fairer chance to earn that money and advance in life here in Sweden, than in a majority of the world. But we're all mediocre. That's what the word means. There is no world where everyone comes out ontop, it's impossible. But if we all pitch in and act together we can make sure that as few people as possible need to be at the bottom.
It's thanks to that that I'm alive today, no joke. I've been through cancer, appendicitis and the following mental breakdown as a result of all that and without our healthcare, without those taxes everyone pays, I would've been completely fucked. THAT is what's important!
But what you mention are real problems too. I've had plenty of trouble myself and many in my family too. But tax cuts aren't the solution. Sadly I can't really give a solution to it either.

You seem to know the value of things though, so I bet you understand. Sorry for being snarky with you.

[Spectral]

Not in our current situation that's for sure. It's quite the opposite, we need a lot more money for pretty much everything. So cutting anyones taxes as it is today would be a bad thing.

A lot more? Don't you find it a bit peculiar that other nations seem to do pretty well with lower government funding?

[Deleted]

Of course i did. You'd have to be insane to vote left. These maniacs are destroying everything we've built and you are applauding them?

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Yup.

/10char

Not at all. I just believe in their core values. I don't agree with them 100%. For example, I'm very much against the immigration policies. But the right wing like Moderaterna are against all the things I mentioned. They stand for an American model, where the worker and common person has no power and the market rules all.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Such things aren't free. But perhaps you're too young to know of any kind of struggle like that. Perhaps the system that your parents and their parents built for you have spoiled you so that you don't know what you've got. Well I don't want to live in Little America, where money and selfishness is the top priority. I know there are many, many Americans out there that would agree with that sentiment but have lost all hope that their voice can even be heard.

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A-fucking-men. It's odd how people can look at countries such as the US, and still pine for that social model...