The Zerg Swarm vs The Burning Legion. Who would win?

[FelPlague]

No, they're not. They just get infinite respawns. The Legion only had 1 million demons during the WotA. Sargeras tasked KJ with growing the numbers of the Legion.

well infinite re spawns still means a infinite army....

if you have a glass of water that once drank refills... its still a "infinite glass of water"

[Aquamonkey]

well infinite re spawns still means a infinite army....

if you have a glass of water that once drank refills... its still a "infinite glass of water"

You're not going to drown with 1 glass of water. Zerg army outnumbers the Legion army 10,000 to 1.

[FelPlague]

You're not going to drown with 1 glass of water. Zerg army outnumbers the Legion army 10,000 to 1.

and yet if i dump glass after glass of water down your throat each time you try to breath in...


thing is the zerg army can fight aganst the burning legion, but each enemy that dies will just be replaced

[Aquamonkey]

and yet if i dump glass after glass of water down your throat each time you try to breath in...


thing is the zerg army can fight aganst the burning legion, but each enemy that dies will just be replaced

You act like the zerg can't replenish their numbers. Again, 10,000:1.

[MartiniSaint]

ppl seem to be forgeting a few things about the legion, first not all they armies are mad eof flesh, fel reavers, infernals, voidwalkers can take the front line and keep the fleshlings away from the battle. secondly i think no one mentioned this: undead, the control over death was given to ner'zul by KJ, so he must be able to practise it, all that infinite army is turn against it, and what would they do? assimilate their corpses, wont learn much from that. regarding fel vs assimilation, sure zerg van assimilate fel, but fel can make beings go mad not only corrupt them, lets say u cant corrupt the zerling, but what about the hive mind. KJ can just make it go mad with fel visions, sending the army into chaos.
tbh i feel the power of undeath would mess the zerg bad, they cant evolve against undeath, at best i believe they could make themselves blow up on death but still the fragment can be used to spawn the equivalent of a abomination, a giant zerg made up of parts off different zergs

[FelPlague]

You act like the zerg can't replenish their numbers. Again, 10,000:1.

yes but what force will eventually run out of resource, out of biomass, and out of steam?

[Aquamonkey]

yes but what force will eventually run out of resource, out of biomass, and out of steam?

Demons don't respawn instantly. They need to maintain a foothold to keep portals to the Nether open for the respawns to come in. Even if the Legion landed its entire army in one shot, they'd be crushed by sheer numbers. Then have to regroup on some other planet.

[TheFirstOnes]

Demons don't respawn instantly. They need to maintain a foothold to keep portals to the Nether open for the respawns to come in. Even if the Legion landed its entire army in one shot, they'd be crushed by sheer numbers. Then have to regroup on some other planet.

*Yawn*

Pfft. We have Multiverses, Universes, Dimensions, and more. Fighting the swarm is more or less like fighting some Old God Creatures. If you think they'll win, then you're crazy. Infact, just grab sargeras, and all their numbers fall instantly...

Besides, demon's have limits to their numbers? Uhh, no...

Blizzard never gave the demons a limit to their numbers. Infact, They gave the demons an entire plain of existance to hop in.

But, even if they were inside the physical universe, limited to shit, Archimonde/Kil'jaeden + Me would take em.

(You'll find out who I am in 7.2, maybe even 7.3).

[Aquamonkey]

Pfft. We have Multiverses, Universes, Dimensions, and more.

Yes... there is a multiverse, but there is only 1 Legion across all of them. I have no idea what your point is.

Besides, demon's have limits to their numbers? Uhh, no...

Blizzard never gave the demons a limit to their numbers. Infact, They gave the demons an entire plain of existance to hop in.

Demons are infinte. The Legion is not. Not all demons are in the Legion. Why do so many people get this wrong?

The War of the Ancients
[...]
Sargeras gathered his vast, demonic army, known as the Burning Legion, and made his way towards the unsuspecting world of Azeroth. The Legion, comprised of a million screaming demons, all ripped from the far corners of the universe, roiled and burned at the thought of conquest
--Warcraft 3 manual

However, Sargeras was not the sole creator of demons, and there are demons that have no affiliation with the Legion. (WC Encyclopedia)

In the 10k years between WotA and TBC, the Legion only went up to millions. The zerg have over 10 BILLION on Char and over 5 BILLION on Aiur. That's just 2 zerg planets and already over 15 BILLION. 10,000:1

[TheFirstOnes]

Yes... there is a multiverse, but there is only 1 Legion across all of them. I have no idea what your point is.


Demons are infinte. The Legion is not. Not all demons are in the Legion. Why do so many people get this wrong?

The War of the Ancients
[...]
Sargeras gathered his vast, demonic army, known as the Burning Legion, and made his way towards the unsuspecting world of Azeroth. The Legion, comprised of a million screaming demons, all ripped from the far corners of the universe, roiled and burned at the thought of conquest
--Warcraft 3 manual

However, Sargeras was not the sole creator of demons, and there are demons that have no affiliation with the Legion. (WC Encyclopedia)

In the 10k years between WotA and TBC, the Legion only went up to millions. The zerg have over 10 BILLION on Char and over 5 BILLION on Aiur. That's just 2 zerg planets and already over 15 BILLION. 10,000:1

So...

You get your answer off of a retorhical statement, followed by a another "JOKISH" Rehtorical statement by a gnome more than 8 years ago?

Great. Evidence, that really strikes me. /s

[FelPlague]

Yes... there is a multiverse, but there is only 1 Legion across all of them. I have no idea what your point is.


Demons are infinte. The Legion is not. Not all demons are in the Legion. Why do so many people get this wrong?

The War of the Ancients
[...]
Sargeras gathered his vast, demonic army, known as the Burning Legion, and made his way towards the unsuspecting world of Azeroth. The Legion, comprised of a million screaming demons, all ripped from the far corners of the universe, roiled and burned at the thought of conquest
--Warcraft 3 manual

However, Sargeras was not the sole creator of demons, and there are demons that have no affiliation with the Legion. (WC Encyclopedia)

In the 10k years between WotA and TBC, the Legion only went up to millions. The zerg have over 10 BILLION on Char and over 5 BILLION on Aiur. That's just 2 zerg planets and already over 15 BILLION. 10,000:1

uhh no auir and most of char has since been purged of zerg, the number is much much smaller now


and if you wanna choose "prime time zerg" numbers you have to do the same for the legion

[Aquamonkey]

So...

You get your answer off of a retorhical statement, followed by a another "JOKISH" Rehtorical statement by a gnome more than 8 years ago?

Great. Evidence, that really strikes me. /s

Nevermind the fact that Sargeras is always trying to increase the size of the Legion, something that would be nonsensical if it was already infinite. Nevermind that they are consistent, even with a 5 year development gap. What evidence have you provided other than confusing demons with the Legion?

and if you wanna choose "prime time zerg" numbers you have to do the same for the legion

So a year ago, before Archimonde died?

[Kaleredar]

The Legion literally cannot be ever be defeated. Its servants spawn endlessly. The void powers they call upon are an inexhaustible component of the universe.

You speak of Zerg adapting to fel fire or magic or demonic corruption? Well they're still having a difficult time dealing with bullets and regular fire from terrans and psionic abilities from the protoss.

The Burning legion represents the strongest magic users in all of Warcraft, something utterly foreign in the Starcraft Universe. The Burning Legion can raise the dead. The Zerg can't, and there'd be no reason to presume they're immune to being necromantically raised and subsequently controlled.

And if that doesn't tickle your fancy, the burning legion ALSO has giant robots, weapons, canons, and so forth that the Terrans and Protoss regularly employ to destroy Zerg forces. Fel Reavers ring a bell?


And of course Sargeras is the game-ender.

[clevin]

This is the ultimate weapon against both the Zerg and Legion:

[Aquamonkey]

You speak of Zerg adapting to fel fire or magic or demonic corruption? Well they're still having a difficult time dealing with bullets and regular fire from terrans and psionic abilities from the protoss.

"Regular fire" like antimatter blasts and hypersonic depleted uranium spikes? Ultralisks can survive nukes.

Demons get taken out by bows and arrows.


I forgot about this:

How about The Lich King vs Queen of Blades?
Queen. I think the Swarm would make short work of the Scourge. (ChrisMetzen)

Scourge were the Legion's trump card against humanity.

[Deleted]

In wow, warriors are similar in power to their caster counterparts. A "legendary" Warrior like grommash could almost defeat a "legendary mage" like gul dan. It was even shown in the films that Durotan almost bested the fel infused Gul dan.

Zerglings would absolutely shred Warriors in wow. Scaled over into another universse, each zergling could be a raidboss. How many marines could grommash really take out, none?

The argument of course is "Magic", but even that seems to have its limit

[Deleted]

gee on the one hand a sci fi army where even the basic unit can chop through power armor like butter and can survive hypersonic metal spikes shot at them, versus a medieval fantasy army where the basic soldiers can be hurt by basic swords and boomsticks. "But magic", yeah you seen the shit protoss can do? some felstorm can't compete with that.

how is this even a contest.

[pateuvasiliu]

Zerg. Archimonde, Mannoroth and Kil'jaeden would kill endless swarms but they die out eventually. The zerg are basically limitless, no?

Add Sargeras and it becomes a stomp, the dude busts planets.

[Kaleredar]

"Regular fire" like antimatter blasts and hypersonic depleted uranium spikes? Ultralisks can survive nukes.

Antimatter? Where do void magics fit into the spectrum on that?

And where does uranium fall into the category of metals in relation to felsteel?

The only thing special about depleted uranium is that it's heavy, by the way.

Demons get taken out by bows and arrows.

Yeah, run of the mill battle fodder demons may be harmed by them. The Burning Legion is not composed of only run of the mill battle fodder demons.

I forgot about this:

How about The Lich King vs Queen of Blades?
Queen. I think the Swarm would make short work of the Scourge. (ChrisMetzen)

Scourge were the Legion's trump card against humanity.

That's the scourge, singular. The Burning legion was a hell of a lot larger than the scourge. That was one mechanism to try and take over one planet.

[Deleted]

Antimatter? Where do void magics fit into the spectrum on that?

And where does uranium fall into the category of metals in relation to felsteel?

The only thing special about depleted uranium is that it's heavy, by the way.

how good can felsteel really be if it doesn't protect you from a sword.

seriously the difference between the power of these armies is orders of magnitude. even real life armies could stand their ground against the legion untill the super powerfull lore characters get involved.